Who would you trade. 10 days to deadline.

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Re: Who would you trade. 10 days to deadline.

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craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:27 pm Also...I think teams would pay a pretty penny for a lot of payroll control left with Leahy
You don't trade pitching. Ever.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:00 pm
Cardinalss4Ever wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:57 pm Pretty much anybody on the MLB roster not named JJ or Jordan.

I would definitely be open to moving Herrera for a good return. His hit tool is good, but he has no defensive position. In his career there have been 101 stolen bases while he is catching, 6 caught stealing. Yikes, yikes and double yikes.

Burly if the offer is good. By the time the window is really open, he will have reached free agency.

Probably keep Winn, McGreevey and Pallente unless overwhelmed.

This team really needs to either get hotter than Hades over the next week, or lose a lot. 8 and 2 or 2 and 8. Get out of the buy/sell conundrum one way or the other.
This conundrum exists only in the minds of some fans. Management is not conflicted.
Agree
I’ve always thought categorizing teams as buyers or sellers was dumb.
Except for a few teams, you should always be looking to buy which translates to improving.
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butsir01 wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:04 pm
Cusecards wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:03 pm Unlike last season where you had high priced vets to move I don’t see an urgency to move anyone unless maybe May.
It always depends on the return.
Everything hinges on the return.
Correct
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Re: Who would you trade. 10 days to deadline.

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riff raff wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:05 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:27 pm Also...I think teams would pay a pretty penny for a lot of payroll control left with Leahy
You don't trade pitching. Ever.
we traded nothing but pitching last year at the deadline....so...yeah :roll:
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Re: Who would you trade. 10 days to deadline.

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May
Romero
O’Brien
Noot

Dark horse:
Herrera
Burleson
Libby
Pallante
Gorman, if possible
Leahy
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:53 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:24 pm I'd trade anyone not named JJ and Jordan

I'd focus on the expiring contracts first...listen to offers on everyone else...and I'd need to be knocked out of my socks to make those trades for the likes of Winn, Burley, Herrera, Pallante, Leahy, McGreevy, Liberatore, etc
I agree with that although I personally they should keep unless an offer blows them away. If it wasn’t for JJ and winns game changing defense up the middle the cardinals would be below .500 right now. I think trade anyone else but keep those three. If you upgrade third and Bernal is a decent offensive catcher you can live with winns offense I think he will break out offensively also
Yep I respect people's opinions, but no way I trade Winn. His defense is game changing and his Offense is starting to click-or evolve if you will. Our rebuild is farther down the road if you were to trade him. We don't have a second or third baseman unless Blaze really steps it up.
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ecleme22 wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:07 pm May
Romero
O’Brien
Noot

Dark horse:
Herrera
Burleson
Libby
Pallante
Gorman, if possible
Leahy
I hope they legitimately consider all of these guys. Let's do the heavy lifting. There are more buyers and fewer sellers this year. A good time not to be passive.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:52 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:27 pm Also...I think teams would pay a pretty penny for a lot of payroll control left with Leahy
I've been thinking about that too. Working on a post about it for Sunday.
I appreciate the effort you put into your posts. I read this forum to be informed not argue, and you do that. Thanks.
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Cusecards wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:05 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:00 pm
Cardinalss4Ever wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:57 pm Pretty much anybody on the MLB roster not named JJ or Jordan.

I would definitely be open to moving Herrera for a good return. His hit tool is good, but he has no defensive position. In his career there have been 101 stolen bases while he is catching, 6 caught stealing. Yikes, yikes and double yikes.

Burly if the offer is good. By the time the window is really open, he will have reached free agency.

Probably keep Winn, McGreevey and Pallente unless overwhelmed.

This team really needs to either get hotter than Hades over the next week, or lose a lot. 8 and 2 or 2 and 8. Get out of the buy/sell conundrum one way or the other.
This conundrum exists only in the minds of some fans. Management is not conflicted.
Agree
I’ve always thought categorizing teams as buyers or sellers was dumb.
Except for a few teams, you should always be looking to buy which translates to improving.
Except for a few teams jeans a lot of teams. That’s a lot of buying. At some point it’s robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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Re: Who would you trade. 10 days to deadline.

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:21 pm
Cusecards wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:05 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:00 pm
Cardinalss4Ever wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:57 pm Pretty much anybody on the MLB roster not named JJ or Jordan.

I would definitely be open to moving Herrera for a good return. His hit tool is good, but he has no defensive position. In his career there have been 101 stolen bases while he is catching, 6 caught stealing. Yikes, yikes and double yikes.

Burly if the offer is good. By the time the window is really open, he will have reached free agency.

Probably keep Winn, McGreevey and Pallente unless overwhelmed.

This team really needs to either get hotter than Hades over the next week, or lose a lot. 8 and 2 or 2 and 8. Get out of the buy/sell conundrum one way or the other.
This conundrum exists only in the minds of some fans. Management is not conflicted.
Agree
I’ve always thought categorizing teams as buyers or sellers was dumb.
Except for a few teams, you should always be looking to buy which translates to improving.
Except for a few teams jeans a lot of teams. That’s a lot of buying. At some point it’s robbing Peter to pay Paul.
You lost me with jeans?
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Re: Who would you trade. 10 days to deadline.

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craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:07 pm
riff raff wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:05 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:27 pm Also...I think teams would pay a pretty penny for a lot of payroll control left with Leahy
You don't trade pitching. Ever.
we traded nothing but pitching last year at the deadline....so...yeah :roll:
I'll trade expiring contracts. Guys like Leahy, no.
:roll: roll your own
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Re: Who would you trade. 10 days to deadline.

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riff raff wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:37 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:07 pm
riff raff wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:05 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:27 pm Also...I think teams would pay a pretty penny for a lot of payroll control left with Leahy
You don't trade pitching. Ever.
we traded nothing but pitching last year at the deadline....so...yeah :roll:
I'll trade expiring contracts. Guys like Leahy, no.
:roll: roll your own
I understand what you would do...the F.O. will trade contracts that aren't expiring... they traded Gray with a year left.
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riff raff wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:37 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:07 pm
riff raff wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:05 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:27 pm Also...I think teams would pay a pretty penny for a lot of payroll control left with Leahy
You don't trade pitching. Ever.
we traded nothing but pitching last year at the deadline....so...yeah :roll:
I'll trade expiring contracts. Guys like Leahy, no.
:roll: roll your own
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2ninr wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:16 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:52 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:27 pm Also...I think teams would pay a pretty penny for a lot of payroll control left with Leahy
I've been thinking about that too. Working on a post about it for Sunday.
I appreciate the effort you put into your posts. I read this forum to be informed not argue, and you do that. Thanks.
Thanks. Appreciate the feedback. Truthfully, it seems like the more time and effort I put into a post the fewer views and less feedback it receives. If I post a sarcastic sentence or two, you can always count on a reply.
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Re: Who would you trade. 10 days to deadline.

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craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:38 pm
riff raff wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:37 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:07 pm
riff raff wrote: 24 Jul 2026 19:05 pm
craviduce wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:27 pm Also...I think teams would pay a pretty penny for a lot of payroll control left with Leahy
You don't trade pitching. Ever.
we traded nothing but pitching last year at the deadline....so...yeah :roll:
I'll trade expiring contracts. Guys like Leahy, no.
:roll: roll your own
I understand what you would do...the F.O. will trade contracts that aren't expiring... they traded Gray with a year left.
Different situation but you know that
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Re: Who would you trade. 10 days to deadline.

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Melville wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:58 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 24 Jul 2026 18:21 pm So who offered the major league roster would you trade? I’ll keep it to major league roster only.

My simple answer is anybody on the roster is available. For the right deal nobody is untouchable.

In reality I’d say JJ and Walker shouldn’t be traded. Everyone else is up for grabs.

The only way I would say a player is untouchable is if he was the best player in Major league baseball that couldn’t be replaced with a better talent.
At some point, very specific decisions must be made as to who to keep and who to deal.
"Everyone except 2 people" isn't really a plan.
Further, short-term and long-term exigencies must be constantly evaluated and weighed against each other.
So, what is the correct answer for the deadline?
Happy to provide that.
Bruihl, Hence, O' Brien, Stanek, Fernandez are on the 40 man and any two could be moved.
Any one of May, Pallante, Leahy, and Liberatore could be moved - or 2 from the group if a starting pitcher was acquired before the deadline.
It would be a huge gift to either player if Gorman or Scott were to be traded.
Mootbaar should have been traded 4 years ago when I was the only person on the planet who understood that and it would be gross incompetence on the part of Bloom to fail to do so now.
Any two from the Fermin, Torres, Valazquez, and Saggese scrum could fit into one package or another.
The catcher situation, which the team has somehow managed to turn into a mess rather than an asset, is best addressed in the off-season.
That is the correct approach to the OP's question regarding the 40-man roster.
If requested, I can provide the answer concerning those not on the 40 man.
Listening to offers for anyone on the roster is a plan.