Connor Bedard

Join the discussion about the Blues.

[Complete Blues coverage on STLtoday.com]

Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Blues Talk Moderators

UMR-alum-05
Forum User
Posts: 1332
Joined: 21 May 2026 07:22 am

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by UMR-alum-05 »

Bluesfan1978 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 08:11 am I guess I'm struggling to understand how he's worth 15 per year. Theres probably 50 players or more in the league I'd rather have on my team. Also the cap only went up 10% not 100%. I would have thought 12 tops.
He isn't worth 15 a year. He might not be able to stay healthy and as others have pointed out, he's nowhere near the top of the league yet in points.

It's also true the team he's on has sucked and he hasn't had much help.

Chicago is very much betting on the come. Could work, could fail drastically.

When I look at their roster they have a dramatically over paid Byram and a dramatically overpaid Bedard. Guess we shall see.
BalotelliMassive
Forum User
Posts: 1911
Joined: 24 May 2024 10:31 am

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by BalotelliMassive »

Image
noted
Forum User
Posts: 855
Joined: 29 Jul 2021 16:13 pm

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by noted »

UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 09:46 am
Bluesfan1978 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 08:11 am I guess I'm struggling to understand how he's worth 15 per year. Theres probably 50 players or more in the league I'd rather have on my team. Also the cap only went up 10% not 100%. I would have thought 12 tops.
He isn't worth 15 a year. He might not be able to stay healthy and as others have pointed out, he's nowhere near the top of the league yet in points.

It's also true the team he's on has sucked and he hasn't had much help.

Chicago is very much betting on the come. Could work, could fail drastically.

When I look at their roster they have a dramatically over paid Byram and a dramatically overpaid Bedard. Guess we shall see.
He is too worth $15m per, and you would be ecstatic for the Blues to pay it if he was their property.
UMR-alum-05
Forum User
Posts: 1332
Joined: 21 May 2026 07:22 am

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by UMR-alum-05 »

noted wrote: 19 Jul 2026 13:56 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 09:46 am
Bluesfan1978 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 08:11 am I guess I'm struggling to understand how he's worth 15 per year. Theres probably 50 players or more in the league I'd rather have on my team. Also the cap only went up 10% not 100%. I would have thought 12 tops.
He isn't worth 15 a year. He might not be able to stay healthy and as others have pointed out, he's nowhere near the top of the league yet in points.

It's also true the team he's on has sucked and he hasn't had much help.

Chicago is very much betting on the come. Could work, could fail drastically.

When I look at their roster they have a dramatically over paid Byram and a dramatically overpaid Bedard. Guess we shall see.
He is too worth $15m per, and you would be ecstatic for the Blues to pay it if he was their property.
Based on what exactly. My post laid out my argument. Yours lays out your opinion.

Please explain how the 35th highest scoring player in the league deserves to be it's 3rd highest paid.

Also would appreciate if you refrain from telling me in your posts what I would and wouldn't want.
Pierre McGuire
Forum User
Posts: 3241
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:10 pm

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by Pierre McGuire »

UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 15:14 pm
noted wrote: 19 Jul 2026 13:56 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 09:46 am
Bluesfan1978 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 08:11 am I guess I'm struggling to understand how he's worth 15 per year. Theres probably 50 players or more in the league I'd rather have on my team. Also the cap only went up 10% not 100%. I would have thought 12 tops.
He isn't worth 15 a year. He might not be able to stay healthy and as others have pointed out, he's nowhere near the top of the league yet in points.

It's also true the team he's on has sucked and he hasn't had much help.

Chicago is very much betting on the come. Could work, could fail drastically.

When I look at their roster they have a dramatically over paid Byram and a dramatically overpaid Bedard. Guess we shall see.
He is too worth $15m per, and you would be ecstatic for the Blues to pay it if he was their property.
Based on what exactly. My post laid out my argument. Yours lays out your opinion.

Please explain how the 35th highest scoring player in the league deserves to be it's 3rd highest paid.
Has nothing to do with who deserves what. With the cap rising, It’s all about when you sign your contract. Snuggerud isn’t going to deserve to make more than Thomas but he’s going to, and likely quite a bit more. Bedard is getting paid because of who he is and what he can do.
UMR-alum-05
Forum User
Posts: 1332
Joined: 21 May 2026 07:22 am

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by UMR-alum-05 »

Pierre McGuire wrote: 19 Jul 2026 15:22 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 15:14 pm
noted wrote: 19 Jul 2026 13:56 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 09:46 am
Bluesfan1978 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 08:11 am I guess I'm struggling to understand how he's worth 15 per year. Theres probably 50 players or more in the league I'd rather have on my team. Also the cap only went up 10% not 100%. I would have thought 12 tops.
He isn't worth 15 a year. He might not be able to stay healthy and as others have pointed out, he's nowhere near the top of the league yet in points.

It's also true the team he's on has sucked and he hasn't had much help.

Chicago is very much betting on the come. Could work, could fail drastically.

When I look at their roster they have a dramatically over paid Byram and a dramatically overpaid Bedard. Guess we shall see.
He is too worth $15m per, and you would be ecstatic for the Blues to pay it if he was their property.
Based on what exactly. My post laid out my argument. Yours lays out your opinion.

Please explain how the 35th highest scoring player in the league deserves to be it's 3rd highest paid.
Has nothing to do with who deserves what. With the cap rising, It’s all about when you sign your contract. Snuggerud isn’t going to deserve to make more than Thomas but he’s going to, and likely quite a bit more. Bedard is getting paid because of who he is and what he can do.
There was a lot more to my argument that the misplaced word "deserves" that you chose to focus on.

I'm out. I've got one of you telling me what I want and I've got another trying to explain the salary cap to me when that wasn't even my argument.

Enjoy
The Average Gatsby
Forum User
Posts: 692
Joined: 04 Jun 2025 15:44 pm

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by The Average Gatsby »

UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 15:14 pm
noted wrote: 19 Jul 2026 13:56 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 09:46 am
Bluesfan1978 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 08:11 am I guess I'm struggling to understand how he's worth 15 per year. Theres probably 50 players or more in the league I'd rather have on my team. Also the cap only went up 10% not 100%. I would have thought 12 tops.
He isn't worth 15 a year. He might not be able to stay healthy and as others have pointed out, he's nowhere near the top of the league yet in points.

It's also true the team he's on has sucked and he hasn't had much help.

Chicago is very much betting on the come. Could work, could fail drastically.

When I look at their roster they have a dramatically over paid Byram and a dramatically overpaid Bedard. Guess we shall see.
He is too worth $15m per, and you would be ecstatic for the Blues to pay it if he was their property.
Based on what exactly. My post laid out my argument. Yours lays out your opinion.

Please explain how the 35th highest scoring player in the league deserves to be it's 3rd highest paid.
This is the wrong way to think about contracts. But you hit on the right answer in your previous post. An nhl contract isn’t a reward for past performance. It’s a bet on future performance. The hawks are betting that Bedard will be worth 15 million per for the next 5 years. I’d wager they’re probably right.
Pierre McGuire
Forum User
Posts: 3241
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:10 pm

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by Pierre McGuire »

UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 15:24 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 19 Jul 2026 15:22 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 15:14 pm
noted wrote: 19 Jul 2026 13:56 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 09:46 am
Bluesfan1978 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 08:11 am I guess I'm struggling to understand how he's worth 15 per year. Theres probably 50 players or more in the league I'd rather have on my team. Also the cap only went up 10% not 100%. I would have thought 12 tops.
He isn't worth 15 a year. He might not be able to stay healthy and as others have pointed out, he's nowhere near the top of the league yet in points.

It's also true the team he's on has sucked and he hasn't had much help.

Chicago is very much betting on the come. Could work, could fail drastically.

When I look at their roster they have a dramatically over paid Byram and a dramatically overpaid Bedard. Guess we shall see.
He is too worth $15m per, and you would be ecstatic for the Blues to pay it if he was their property.
Based on what exactly. My post laid out my argument. Yours lays out your opinion.

Please explain how the 35th highest scoring player in the league deserves to be it's 3rd highest paid.
Has nothing to do with who deserves what. With the cap rising, It’s all about when you sign your contract. Snuggerud isn’t going to deserve to make more than Thomas but he’s going to, and likely quite a bit more. Bedard is getting paid because of who he is and what he can do.
There was a lot more to my argument that the misplaced word "deserves" that you chose to focus on.

I'm out. I've got one of you telling me what I want and I've got another trying to explain the salary cap to me when that wasn't even my argument.

Enjoy
He got that money because that’s the going rate for a player of his caliber. There is nothing to explain. Chicago probably saved a few mil because of the current injury
dhsux
Forum User
Posts: 5275
Joined: 23 May 2024 17:18 pm

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by dhsux »

Pierre McGuire wrote: 19 Jul 2026 16:56 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 15:24 pm
Pierre McGuire wrote: 19 Jul 2026 15:22 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 15:14 pm
noted wrote: 19 Jul 2026 13:56 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 09:46 am
Bluesfan1978 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 08:11 am I guess I'm struggling to understand how he's worth 15 per year. Theres probably 50 players or more in the league I'd rather have on my team. Also the cap only went up 10% not 100%. I would have thought 12 tops.
He isn't worth 15 a year. He might not be able to stay healthy and as others have pointed out, he's nowhere near the top of the league yet in points.

It's also true the team he's on has sucked and he hasn't had much help.

Chicago is very much betting on the come. Could work, could fail drastically.

When I look at their roster they have a dramatically over paid Byram and a dramatically overpaid Bedard. Guess we shall see.
He is too worth $15m per, and you would be ecstatic for the Blues to pay it if he was their property.
Based on what exactly. My post laid out my argument. Yours lays out your opinion.

Please explain how the 35th highest scoring player in the league deserves to be it's 3rd highest paid.
Has nothing to do with who deserves what. With the cap rising, It’s all about when you sign your contract. Snuggerud isn’t going to deserve to make more than Thomas but he’s going to, and likely quite a bit more. Bedard is getting paid because of who he is and what he can do.
There was a lot more to my argument that the misplaced word "deserves" that you chose to focus on.

I'm out. I've got one of you telling me what I want and I've got another trying to explain the salary cap to me when that wasn't even my argument.

Enjoy
He got that money because that’s the going rate for a player of his caliber. There is nothing to explain. Chicago probably saved a few mil because of the current injury
Or more likely Chicago got him to sign what ever because of the current injury.
skilles
Forum User
Posts: 2739
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:28 pm

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by skilles »

noted wrote: 19 Jul 2026 13:56 pm
UMR-alum-05 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 09:46 am
Bluesfan1978 wrote: 19 Jul 2026 08:11 am I guess I'm struggling to understand how he's worth 15 per year. Theres probably 50 players or more in the league I'd rather have on my team. Also the cap only went up 10% not 100%. I would have thought 12 tops.
He isn't worth 15 a year. He might not be able to stay healthy and as others have pointed out, he's nowhere near the top of the league yet in points.

It's also true the team he's on has sucked and he hasn't had much help.

Chicago is very much betting on the come. Could work, could fail drastically.

When I look at their roster they have a dramatically over paid Byram and a dramatically overpaid Bedard. Guess we shall see.
He is too worth $15m per, and you would be ecstatic for the Blues to pay it if he was their property.
I would not at all be ecstatic with that contract, so much so that if I were them I'd probably sooner trade him than sign it.

The term is absolute garbage
BalotelliMassive
Forum User
Posts: 1911
Joined: 24 May 2024 10:31 am

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by BalotelliMassive »

skilles wrote: 19 Jul 2026 17:56 pm if I were them I'd probably sooner trade him than sign it.
He only has a no trade during year five from what I’m seeing.
skilles
Forum User
Posts: 2739
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:28 pm

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by skilles »

BalotelliMassive wrote: 19 Jul 2026 18:25 pm
skilles wrote: 19 Jul 2026 17:56 pm if I were them I'd probably sooner trade him than sign it.
He only has a no trade during year five from what I’m seeing.
Thats even worse in some ways....I mean whatever on the money but that term is terrible and very alarming IMO.
dr0zombie
Forum User
Posts: 371
Joined: 24 May 2024 17:36 pm

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by dr0zombie »

Chicago had little choice, but I don't see this aging well. I do not get or see why we have the Connor Bedard praise. He is constantly labeled as elite. He is the martyr for how poor the hawks are. I just look to Connor Bedard's possession metrics in the list of #1s.

This gets less attractive to use a real comparable. Try mapping CF% for Jack Eichel's to Connor Bedard in their early years. Eichel did more with far less in Buffalo.

Below is the analytical comparison tracking recent No. 1 overall selections at 5v5 play until we hit Connor Bedard.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. CONNOR MCDAVID (2015) * Typical CF%: 57.0% - 60.0%+
2. JACK HUGHES (2019) * Typical CF%: 54.0% - 58.0%
3. NICO HISCHIER (2017) * Typical CF%: 52.0% - 55.0%
4. MACKLIN CELEBRINI (2024) * Typical CF%: 51.0% - 53.0%
5. RASMUS DAHLIN (2018) * Typical CF%: 50.0% - 53.0%
6. ALEXIS LAFRENIERE (2020) Typical CF%: 48.0% - 51.0%
7. JURAJ SLAFKOVSKY (2022)* Typical CF%: 47.0% - 49.0%
8. OWEN POWER (2021) Typical CF%: 46.0% - 49.0%
9. CONNOR BEDARD (2023) * Typical CF%: 44.0% - 46.5%


I am fine if I am wrong with Bedard. I am just not going to pretend this is all on "the team".
BalotelliMassive
Forum User
Posts: 1911
Joined: 24 May 2024 10:31 am

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by BalotelliMassive »

skilles wrote: 19 Jul 2026 18:41 pm Thats even worse in some ways....
I’m all ears.

Does term even mean anything in this day and age when stars and role players are dictating where they’re traded to?
skilles
Forum User
Posts: 2739
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:28 pm

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by skilles »

BalotelliMassive wrote: 19 Jul 2026 18:50 pm
skilles wrote: 19 Jul 2026 18:41 pm Thats even worse in some ways....
I’m all ears.

Does term even mean anything in this day and age when stars and role players are dictating where they’re traded to?
LOL Yes it means a lot.
BalotelliMassive
Forum User
Posts: 1911
Joined: 24 May 2024 10:31 am

Re: Connor Bedard

Post by BalotelliMassive »

skilles wrote: 19 Jul 2026 19:00 pm
BalotelliMassive wrote: 19 Jul 2026 18:50 pm
skilles wrote: 19 Jul 2026 18:41 pm Thats even worse in some ways....
I’m all ears.

Does term even mean anything in this day and age when stars and role players are dictating where they’re traded to?
LOL Yes it means a lot.
OK…. He received offer sheets and I’m assuming that they were more than Carlsson was offered. Would you rather get four first round picks?