Leo Carlsson Offer Sheet

[zamadoo]

Looks like a front loaded deal with a NMC in year 5.

Was Anaheim planning on handing $20.8M to Leo this season?

[Pierre McGuire]

Yr 1: $850K Salary, $19.95M Signing Bonus
Yr 2: $900K/$18.1M
Yr 3: $950K/$17.05M
Yr 4: $1M/$15.2M
Yr 5: $1M/$15M

NMC in Yr 5

[General]

Yr 1: $850K Salary, $19.95M Signing Bonus
Yr 2: $900K/$18.1M
Yr 3: $950K/$17.05M
Yr 4: $1M/$15.2M
Yr 5: $1M/$15M

NMC in Yr 5

So he's getting minimal salary and just gets a big signing bonus each year? If so, he'll establish residency in a no tax state in the offseason when he's paid the bonus. I think it works that way. Nice move if so.

[BalotelliMassive]

Nobody is going to break the Fedorov record but they’re starting to get close.

[skilles]

Yr 1: $850K Salary, $19.95M Signing Bonus
Yr 2: $900K/$18.1M
Yr 3: $950K/$17.05M
Yr 4: $1M/$15.2M
Yr 5: $1M/$15M

NMC in Yr 5

Lol brutal

[WilliamWestcliffe]

I guess all you cap experts will tell me this is the new normal?

I know he's a ppg center but sure seems nuts to me.

The player, the AAV, the term and the cost to acquire.

The cost to acquire is very doable for the Flyers . They are loaded with quality prospects. They are taking the next step.

If you are going all in as they are why only 5 years? The cost to acquire could have been much less and if they were hedging it makes even less sense.

This is a great deal for Carlson I don't know about the other party's.

Because Leo sees a much bigger contract when he’s only 26.

Ya I get that but there's the other side. 18 friggen mil I bet Philly could have gotten more years if they really pushed it.

This is interesting. I don’t know enough about the offer sheet legalese, but in theory couldn’t a team offer something insane for a shorter term to just get the player released to them and then immediately renegotiate the contract for term? e.g. offer sheet 3 years at 18M per (54M), then renegotiate to 7 years at 14M per (98M).

[Bubble4427]

I guess all you cap experts will tell me this is the new normal?

I know he's a ppg center but sure seems nuts to me.

The player, the AAV, the term and the cost to acquire.

The cost to acquire is very doable for the Flyers . They are loaded with quality prospects. They are taking the next step.

If you are going all in as they are why only 5 years? The cost to acquire could have been much less and if they were hedging it makes even less sense.

This is a great deal for Carlson I don't know about the other party's.

Because Leo sees a much bigger contract when he’s only 26.

Ya I get that but there's the other side. 18 friggen mil I bet Philly could have gotten more years if they really pushed it.

This is interesting. I don’t know enough about the offer sheet legalese, but in theory couldn’t a team offer something insane for a shorter term to just get the player released to them and then immediately renegotiate the contract for term? e.g. offer sheet 3 years at 18M per (54M), then renegotiate to 7 years at 14M per (98M).

You can only extend, resign, or renegotiate when there is 1 year left on the contract.

[dhsux]

I guess all you cap experts will tell me this is the new normal?

I know he's a ppg center but sure seems nuts to me.

The player, the AAV, the term and the cost to acquire.

The cost to acquire is very doable for the Flyers . They are loaded with quality prospects. They are taking the next step.

If you are going all in as they are why only 5 years? The cost to acquire could have been much less and if they were hedging it makes even less sense.

This is a great deal for Carlson I don't know about the other party's.

Because Leo sees a much bigger contract when he’s only 26.

Ya I get that but there's the other side. 18 friggen mil I bet Philly could have gotten more years if they really pushed it.

This is interesting. I don’t know enough about the offer sheet legalese, but in theory couldn’t a team offer something insane for a shorter term to just get the player released to them and then immediately renegotiate the contract for term? e.g. offer sheet 3 years at 18M per (54M), then renegotiate to 7 years at 14M per (98M).

You can only extend, resign, or renegotiate when there is 1 year left on the contract.

That and what I think WW was suggesting would just about require an under the table / off record type of negotiation.

[Bubble4427]

I guess all you cap experts will tell me this is the new normal?

I know he's a ppg center but sure seems nuts to me.

The player, the AAV, the term and the cost to acquire.

The cost to acquire is very doable for the Flyers . They are loaded with quality prospects. They are taking the next step.

If you are going all in as they are why only 5 years? The cost to acquire could have been much less and if they were hedging it makes even less sense.

This is a great deal for Carlson I don't know about the other party's.

Because Leo sees a much bigger contract when he’s only 26.

Ya I get that but there's the other side. 18 friggen mil I bet Philly could have gotten more years if they really pushed it.

This is interesting. I don’t know enough about the offer sheet legalese, but in theory couldn’t a team offer something insane for a shorter term to just get the player released to them and then immediately renegotiate the contract for term? e.g. offer sheet 3 years at 18M per (54M), then renegotiate to 7 years at 14M per (98M).

You can only extend, resign, or renegotiate when there is 1 year left on the contract.

That and what I think WW was suggesting would just about require an under the table / off record type of negotiation.

I agree and that is why the rule is in place is my guess…

[Frank Barone]

I guess all you cap experts will tell me this is the new normal?

I know he's a ppg center but sure seems nuts to me.

The player, the AAV, the term and the cost to acquire.

The cost to acquire is very doable for the Flyers . They are loaded with quality prospects. They are taking the next step.

If you are going all in as they are why only 5 years? The cost to acquire could have been much less and if they were hedging it makes even less sense.

This is a great deal for Carlson I don't know about the other party's.

Because Leo sees a much bigger contract when he’s only 26.

Ya I get that but there's the other side. 18 friggen mil I bet Philly could have gotten more years if they really pushed it.

This is interesting. I don’t know enough about the offer sheet legalese, but in theory couldn’t a team offer something insane for a shorter term to just get the player released to them and then immediately renegotiate the contract for term? e.g. offer sheet 3 years at 18M per (54M), then renegotiate to 7 years at 14M per (98M).

You can only extend, resign, or renegotiate when there is 1 year left on the contract.

The NHL does not permit renegotiated contracts. The only things close to a changed contract are buyouts (which are one sided by the team) or a mutual contract termination, both of which require the player to first pass through waivers I believe.

[xpath]

NHL.com has the headline that Carlsson signed with Flyers but when I click on the link it mentions that the offer sheet is still pending. So who know?

[the miracle]

NHL.com has the headline that Carlsson signed with Flyers but when I click on the link it mentions that the offer sheet is still pending. So who know?

The player accepts the offer sheet and is considered signed by the new team. The player's original team has 1 week to decide if they want to match the offer sheet, thereby keeping the player. So he would have signed with Philly, but it wouldn't be final until the Ducks decide to match or not, which they have a week to do. (IIRC)

[Army's Mom]

I guess all you cap experts will tell me this is the new normal?

I know he's a ppg center but sure seems nuts to me.

The player, the AAV, the term and the cost to acquire.

The cost to acquire is very doable for the Flyers . They are loaded with quality prospects. They are taking the next step.

If you are going all in as they are why only 5 years? The cost to acquire could have been much less and if they were hedging it makes even less sense.

This is a great deal for Carlson I don't know about the other party's.

Because Leo sees a much bigger contract when he’s only 26.

Ya I get that but there's the other side. 18 friggen mil I bet Philly could have gotten more years if they really pushed it.

This is interesting. I don’t know enough about the offer sheet legalese, but in theory couldn’t a team offer something insane for a shorter term to just get the player released to them and then immediately renegotiate the contract for term? e.g. offer sheet 3 years at 18M per (54M), then renegotiate to 7 years at 14M per (98M).

To the point of adding more years - the 5 year term is prexisely designed to make it less desirable for ANA to match by walking Carlsson right to UFA. ANA would obviously prefer 6 or 7 years of control, same as PHI, which is exactly why Briere went with 5.

They'll still match, I expect, but this contract structure (term, bonus, trade restriction) makes it as hard a pill for ANA to swallow as possible.

Love it.

[STL fan in MN]

I guess all you cap experts will tell me this is the new normal?

I know he's a ppg center but sure seems nuts to me.

The player, the AAV, the term and the cost to acquire.

The cost to acquire is very doable for the Flyers . They are loaded with quality prospects. They are taking the next step.

If you are going all in as they are why only 5 years? The cost to acquire could have been much less and if they were hedging it makes even less sense.

This is a great deal for Carlson I don't know about the other party's.

Because Leo sees a much bigger contract when he’s only 26.

Ya I get that but there's the other side. 18 friggen mil I bet Philly could have gotten more years if they really pushed it.

This is interesting. I don’t know enough about the offer sheet legalese, but in theory couldn’t a team offer something insane for a shorter term to just get the player released to them and then immediately renegotiate the contract for term? e.g. offer sheet 3 years at 18M per (54M), then renegotiate to 7 years at 14M per (98M).

Nope, absolutely not allowed.

You can probably thank Adam Oates for why players absolutely can’t renegotiate contracts anymore.

[BCT1]

Bedard be like

Bedard? What about Celebrini?

[BalotelliMassive]

Demidov is making half…..