Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Undefeated this year with Noot in the lineup.
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Has all his offense been in LO position? Too early to draw conclusion.
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Voldemort wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:27 pm
Melville wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:07 pm .167
And THAT is why it is always wise to avoid snap judgements based on small sample size.
Which is why I never do so.
Do I believe Lars The Human Sushi-baar will hit .167 for the year.
Of course not.
But, others here foolishly crowed about a single game.
My advice?
Keep reading, keep learning.
Dumb ash, you're looking at a small sample size.
Perhaps you missed it the first time.
Being kind, gracious, and possessing patience exceeding that of all saints, I will continue your education:
.167
And THAT is why it is always wise to avoid snap judgements based on small sample size.
Which is why I never do so.
Do I believe Lars The Human Sushi-baar will hit .167 for the year.
Of course not.
But, others here foolishly crowed about a single game.
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:32 pm
Melville wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:19 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:11 pm
Melville wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:07 pm .167
And THAT is why it is always wise to avoid snap judgements based on small sample size.
Which is why I never do so.
Do I believe Lars The Human Sushi-baar will hit .167 for the year.
Of course not.
But, others here foolishly crowed about a single game.
My advice?
Keep reading, keep learning.
He’s got on base or driven in a run in every game he’s played drew a walk that helped lead to a run. He has a better OBP slugging and OPS than Gorman man if you think a guy doing better than Gorman sucks then you must really think Gorman sucks
"Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie."
Did he say Gorman was?
Or is there some other reason that you (and others) have made a post irrelevant to the OP's topic?
Maybe confused about which thread you are in?
Being kind and gracious to a fault, I prefer not to speculate.
Harmless mistake.
This thread, according to the OP, is about Mootbaar.
Common courtesy dictates that we remain on topic, and I adjure you to do so.
Okay so you are on record saying this is what he is and this is what he will hit?
Perhaps you missed it the first time.
Being kind, gracious, and possessing patience exceeding that of all saints, I will repeat it for your benefit:
"And THAT is why it is always wise to avoid snap judgements based on small sample size.
Which is why I never do so.
Do I believe Lars The Human Sushi-baar will hit .167 for the year.
Of course not.
But, others here foolishly crowed about a single game."
I trust that is helpful.
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Melville wrote: 11 Jun 2026 07:48 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:32 pm
Melville wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:19 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:11 pm
Melville wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:07 pm .167
And THAT is why it is always wise to avoid snap judgements based on small sample size.
Which is why I never do so.
Do I believe Lars The Human Sushi-baar will hit .167 for the year.
Of course not.
But, others here foolishly crowed about a single game.
My advice?
Keep reading, keep learning.
He’s got on base or driven in a run in every game he’s played drew a walk that helped lead to a run. He has a better OBP slugging and OPS than Gorman man if you think a guy doing better than Gorman sucks then you must really think Gorman sucks
"Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie."
Did he say Gorman was?
Or is there some other reason that you (and others) have made a post irrelevant to the OP's topic?
Maybe confused about which thread you are in?
Being kind and gracious to a fault, I prefer not to speculate.
Harmless mistake.
This thread, according to the OP, is about Mootbaar.
Common courtesy dictates that we remain on topic, and I adjure you to do so.
Okay so you are on record saying this is what he is and this is what he will hit?
Perhaps you missed it the first time.
Being kind, gracious, and possessing patience exceeding that of all saints, I will repeat it for your benefit:
"And THAT is why it is always wise to avoid snap judgements based on small sample size.
Which is why I never do so.
Do I believe Lars The Human Sushi-baar will hit .167 for the year.
Of course not.
But, others here foolishly crowed about a single game."
I trust that is helpful.
lol you said you right about noot based on one base running mistake in his first at bat of his first game back and you want to call out others about small sample sizes? You’re a joke
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Jatalk wrote: 10 Jun 2026 22:04 pm Too early to draw conclusion.
Exactly.
Not hard.
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 11 Jun 2026 08:02 am
Melville wrote: 11 Jun 2026 07:48 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:32 pm
Melville wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:19 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:11 pm
Melville wrote: 10 Jun 2026 21:07 pm .167
And THAT is why it is always wise to avoid snap judgements based on small sample size.
Which is why I never do so.
Do I believe Lars The Human Sushi-baar will hit .167 for the year.
Of course not.
But, others here foolishly crowed about a single game.
My advice?
Keep reading, keep learning.
He’s got on base or driven in a run in every game he’s played drew a walk that helped lead to a run. He has a better OBP slugging and OPS than Gorman man if you think a guy doing better than Gorman sucks then you must really think Gorman sucks
"Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie."
Did he say Gorman was?
Or is there some other reason that you (and others) have made a post irrelevant to the OP's topic?
Maybe confused about which thread you are in?
Being kind and gracious to a fault, I prefer not to speculate.
Harmless mistake.
This thread, according to the OP, is about Mootbaar.
Common courtesy dictates that we remain on topic, and I adjure you to do so.
Okay so you are on record saying this is what he is and this is what he will hit?
Perhaps you missed it the first time.
Being kind, gracious, and possessing patience exceeding that of all saints, I will repeat it for your benefit:
"And THAT is why it is always wise to avoid snap judgements based on small sample size.
Which is why I never do so.
Do I believe Lars The Human Sushi-baar will hit .167 for the year.
Of course not.
But, others here foolishly crowed about a single game."
I trust that is helpful.
lol you said you right about noot based on one base running mistake in his first at bat of his first game back and you want to call out others about small sample sizes? You’re a joke
He's what the mods in the old current affairs forum used to refer to as a 'chew toy'.
He likes the negative attention much like shady. It's odd behavior but whatever.
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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NOOT > gormy all day every day
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Team is 11-11 in June.
Mootbaar, last remnant of the previous TOXIC CULTURE, has been back in the dugout....
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Noot

.290 .392 .484 .876
149 OPS+


He's been great since his return

Last I looked he doesn't start Libby or Leahy's games, nor does he pitch out of the pen' which is where the teams losing has come from since his return.

I'm almost starting to think they should keep him but pretty sure he'll get dealt since he'll be in HIGH demand by any contending team.

Keep playing great Noot, that trade value just keeps going up!
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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jun 2026 09:54 am Noot

.290 .392 .484 .876
149 OPS+


He's been great since his return

Last I looked he doesn't start Libby or Leahy's games, nor does he pitch out of the pen' which is where the teams losing has come from since his return.

I'm almost starting to think they should keep him but pretty sure he'll get dealt since he'll be in HIGH demand by any contending team.

Keep playing great Noot, that trade value just keeps going up!
Nootbaar does appear to be solidifying his trade value.
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Shady wrote: 27 Jun 2026 10:08 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jun 2026 09:54 am Noot

.290 .392 .484 .876
149 OPS+


He's been great since his return

Last I looked he doesn't start Libby or Leahy's games, nor does he pitch out of the pen' which is where the teams losing has come from since his return.

I'm almost starting to think they should keep him but pretty sure he'll get dealt since he'll be in HIGH demand by any contending team.

Keep playing great Noot, that trade value just keeps going up!
Nootbaar does appear to be solidifying his trade value.
If he keeps this up and shows teams he's now healthy, then he'll be in huge demand by many contending teams.

I hate to see him go.
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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jun 2026 10:28 am
Shady wrote: 27 Jun 2026 10:08 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jun 2026 09:54 am Noot

.290 .392 .484 .876
149 OPS+


He's been great since his return

Last I looked he doesn't start Libby or Leahy's games, nor does he pitch out of the pen' which is where the teams losing has come from since his return.

I'm almost starting to think they should keep him but pretty sure he'll get dealt since he'll be in HIGH demand by any contending team.

Keep playing great Noot, that trade value just keeps going up!
Nootbaar does appear to be solidifying his trade value.
If he keeps this up and shows teams he's now healthy, then he'll be in huge demand by many contending teams.

I hate to see him go.
Define Huge:) He would bring more than a bag of balls, but I doubt he brings some fabulous TOR SP pitching prospect or great reliever. He may bring a couple of lottery ticket pitchers, one of which may help in a couple of seasons, which is probably what Bloom would be after.
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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bccardsfan wrote: 27 Jun 2026 10:33 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jun 2026 10:28 am
Shady wrote: 27 Jun 2026 10:08 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jun 2026 09:54 am Noot

.290 .392 .484 .876
149 OPS+


He's been great since his return

Last I looked he doesn't start Libby or Leahy's games, nor does he pitch out of the pen' which is where the teams losing has come from since his return.

I'm almost starting to think they should keep him but pretty sure he'll get dealt since he'll be in HIGH demand by any contending team.

Keep playing great Noot, that trade value just keeps going up!
Nootbaar does appear to be solidifying his trade value.
If he keeps this up and shows teams he's now healthy, then he'll be in huge demand by many contending teams.

I hate to see him go.
Define Huge:) He would bring more than a bag of balls, but I doubt he brings some fabulous TOR SP pitching prospect or great reliever. He may bring a couple of lottery ticket pitchers, one of which may help in a couple of seasons, which is probably what Bloom would be after.
Yeah, Noot won't garner you a whole lot. The real currency will be May and JoJo.
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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bccardsfan wrote: 27 Jun 2026 10:33 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jun 2026 10:28 am
Shady wrote: 27 Jun 2026 10:08 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jun 2026 09:54 am Noot

.290 .392 .484 .876
149 OPS+


He's been great since his return

Last I looked he doesn't start Libby or Leahy's games, nor does he pitch out of the pen' which is where the teams losing has come from since his return.

I'm almost starting to think they should keep him but pretty sure he'll get dealt since he'll be in HIGH demand by any contending team.

Keep playing great Noot, that trade value just keeps going up!
Nootbaar does appear to be solidifying his trade value.
If he keeps this up and shows teams he's now healthy, then he'll be in huge demand by many contending teams.

I hate to see him go.
Define Huge:) He would bring more than a bag of balls, but I doubt he brings some fabulous TOR SP pitching prospect or great reliever. He may bring a couple of lottery ticket pitchers, one of which may help in a couple of seasons, which is probably what Bloom would be after.
Huge = many playoff aspirant teams

Noot, as their 2nd/3rd OF'er, would be an upgrade for almost all of them sans a few.

"Bag of ball", c'mon bcc that's reserved for P. Pages types.

Of course he's NOT bring back a TOTR starter or closer for the pen'.

But the return certainly isn't going to be "lottery ticket", re: long shot at best prospects, again c'mon man that's what N. Gorman would bring.

For the record and just the FACTS, we're talking about a 28 year old career .752 OPS hitter w/a .343 OB% who's been a 10% above average major league hitter who after his heel surgery is now healthy.

That's NOT a player who brings back a "bag of balls" or "lotto ticket" prospects.

You've been reading Melville too much bcc, Noot brings back a solid return even in a solo deal.
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Re: Nootbaar is not the answer to this team and I don’t understand Bernie

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Shady wrote: 27 Jun 2026 10:08 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Jun 2026 09:54 am Noot

.290 .392 .484 .876
149 OPS+


He's been great since his return

Last I looked he doesn't start Libby or Leahy's games, nor does he pitch out of the pen' which is where the teams losing has come from since his return.

I'm almost starting to think they should keep him but pretty sure he'll get dealt since he'll be in HIGH demand by any contending team.

Keep playing great Noot, that trade value just keeps going up!
Nootbaar does appear to be solidifying his trade value.
Your point is spot on.
His only contribution is whatever trade return Bloom can acquire.
The team will be better with his departure.
After all, they were a better team before he returned.