Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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He can't hit, not great at fielding and can't run the bases. What exactly is he doing here in the majors. Surely they have someone else that could backup at SS and hit .200 which would be an upgrade right now. Am I missing something with this guy?
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Re: Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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CCard wrote: 20 May 2026 13:29 pm He can't hit, not great at fielding and can't run the bases. What exactly is he doing here in the majors. Surely they have someone else that could backup at SS and hit .200 which would be an upgrade right now. Am I missing something with this guy?
In fairness he had been demoted but then Urias went on the IL.
Cards are not that deep I agree.
Hopefully Noot and Urias returning helps somewhat?
Can’t really hurt??? LOL
Saggese & Prieto will be sent out.
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Ive always questioned the concept of WARs replacement player. Who is this mythical 0 WAR player who should be available at near minimum wage and how do you obtain them?

If they grew on trees then we shouldnt need to employ any negative WAR players. But in theory a 0 WAR player shouldnt have much if any positive value and should be cheap to obtain. Something just doesnt add up with the concept.
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Re: Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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They don’t have anyone else that can hit over .200 and play backup SS. The Cardinals have no depth due to Mozo the Clown and the watertight seal placed on DeWallet once it was obvious the local tv contract would be ending.
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Re: Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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CCard wrote: 20 May 2026 13:29 pm He can't hit, not great at fielding and can't run the bases. What exactly is he doing here in the majors. Surely they have someone else that could backup at SS and hit .200 which would be an upgrade right now. Am I missing something with this guy?
Saggese needs to make an adjustment to his stance. He needs to get his back elbow up higher. In order to have a more level swing.
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CCard wrote: 20 May 2026 13:29 pm He can't hit, not great at fielding and can't run the bases. What exactly is he doing here in the majors. Surely they have someone else that could backup at SS and hit .200 which would be an upgrade right now. Am I missing something with this guy?
He just turned 24 in April, 68 ABs this year, plays OF, SS, 3rd. Cards players... Urias is out, Winn is iffy, Noot out. He is filling in as needed.

https://www.mlb.com/player/thomas-saggese-695336
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CCard wrote: 20 May 2026 13:29 pm He can't hit, not great at fielding and can't run the bases. What exactly is he doing here in the majors. Surely they have someone else that could backup at SS and hit .200 which would be an upgrade right now. Am I missing something with this guy?
Cranny will tell you he was the Minor League Player of the Year. It's too bad for him this is the Major Leagues.
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Re: Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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Shady wrote: 20 May 2026 14:05 pm
CCard wrote: 20 May 2026 13:29 pm He can't hit, not great at fielding and can't run the bases. What exactly is he doing here in the majors. Surely they have someone else that could backup at SS and hit .200 which would be an upgrade right now. Am I missing something with this guy?
Saggese needs to make an adjustment to his stance. He needs to get his back elbow up higher. In order to have a more level swing.
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CCard wrote: 20 May 2026 13:29 pm He can't hit, not great at fielding and can't run the bases. What exactly is he doing here in the majors. Surely they have someone else that could backup at SS and hit .200 which would be an upgrade right now. Am I missing something with this guy?
Jagesse is what he is...and the Cards can/should do better...I'm assuming the Jagesse troll will be on here arguing about his potential!
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Re: Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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That's what you get with rebuilding teams, we went over this.
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Re: Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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Shady wrote: 20 May 2026 14:05 pm
CCard wrote: 20 May 2026 13:29 pm He can't hit, not great at fielding and can't run the bases. What exactly is he doing here in the majors. Surely they have someone else that could backup at SS and hit .200 which would be an upgrade right now. Am I missing something with this guy?
Saggese needs to make an adjustment to his stance. He needs to get his back elbow up higher. In order to have a more level swing.
Oh yeah? Did your Khoury league coach tell you that in 1950?
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I have no problem with TS being in the dugout as a backup infielder but not as the 4th outfielder. I think part of the problem also starts with carrying 3 catchers.
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Re: Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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He just is what he is. He doesn't have any high level skill, hes just ok to sort of ok at everything, in the majors that translates to a guy struggling to keep his head above water.
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Re: Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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Shady wrote: 20 May 2026 14:05 pm
CCard wrote: 20 May 2026 13:29 pm He can't hit, not great at fielding and can't run the bases. What exactly is he doing here in the majors. Surely they have someone else that could backup at SS and hit .200 which would be an upgrade right now. Am I missing something with this guy?
Saggese needs to make an adjustment to his stance. He needs to get his back elbow up higher. In order to have a more level swing.
Interesting adjustment you suggest... that he needs to get his back elbow up higher .. In the meeting with Brownie , our batting coach , Saggese asked him if he recommended to raise his elbow higher . Brown reportedly told him , ' No, forget the elbow higher , the only thing you need to 'get up higher' is your batting average. If you don't soon , your elbow will be even lower .. like 'lower to AAA Memphis ' !
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Re: Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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Better question. Why in the world another thread about Saggese? We know he is not playing well. We know there are limited options or he wouldn’t be playing. We know!! We know!!

Nothing can be said that hasn’t already been said.

CT needs a “stop beating a dead horse” rule.
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Re: Why in the world is Saggese playing?

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Jatalk wrote: 20 May 2026 16:17 pm Better question. Why in the world another thread about Saggese? We know he is not playing well. We know there are limited options or he wouldn’t be playing. We know!! We know!!

Nothing can be said that hasn’t already been said.

CT needs a “stop beating a dead horse” rule.
Don't read the post then. Simple solution.