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Liberatore

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Blew up in 6th inning the start before this and now in the fifth inning. We need to try someone else!!!!
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southernblues wrote: 19 May 2026 20:18 pm Blew up in 6th inning the start before this and now in the fifth inning. We need to try someone else!!!!
Or maybe be creative and introduce an opener 1-2 innings letting him start against 7-8 getting him an extra inning only having to face 1-6 twice.
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southernblues wrote: 19 May 2026 20:18 pm Blew up in 6th inning the start before this and now in the fifth inning. We need to try someone else!!!!
There is nobody else.
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Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 19 May 2026 20:20 pm
southernblues wrote: 19 May 2026 20:18 pm Blew up in 6th inning the start before this and now in the fifth inning. We need to try someone else!!!!
Or maybe be creative and introduce an opener 1-2 innings letting him start against 7-8 getting him an extra inning only having to face 1-6 twice.
If your sole objective is winning as many games as possible that's a perfectly fine idea. If your goal is to balance winning along with developing and/or evaluating talent to determine who to keep going forward then letting Liberatore try and work through this makes a lot of sense. Same thing with letting Burleson and Gorman face LH pitching.
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rbirules wrote: 19 May 2026 20:33 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 19 May 2026 20:20 pm
southernblues wrote: 19 May 2026 20:18 pm Blew up in 6th inning the start before this and now in the fifth inning. We need to try someone else!!!!
Or maybe be creative and introduce an opener 1-2 innings letting him start against 7-8 getting him an extra inning only having to face 1-6 twice.
If your sole objective is winning as many games as possible that's a perfectly fine idea. If your goal is to balance winning along with developing and/or evaluating talent to determine who to keep going forward then letting Liberatore try and work through this makes a lot of sense. Same thing with letting Burleson and Gorman face LH pitching.
Yes.
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rbirules wrote: 19 May 2026 20:33 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 19 May 2026 20:20 pm
southernblues wrote: 19 May 2026 20:18 pm Blew up in 6th inning the start before this and now in the fifth inning. We need to try someone else!!!!
Or maybe be creative and introduce an opener 1-2 innings letting him start against 7-8 getting him an extra inning only having to face 1-6 twice.
If your sole objective is winning as many games as possible that's a perfectly fine idea. If your goal is to balance winning along with developing and/or evaluating talent to determine who to keep going forward then letting Liberatore try and work through this makes a lot of sense. Same thing with letting Burleson and Gorman face LH pitching.
Common sense statement. Refreshing and absolutely correct.
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My guess is the staff will fall apart after the all star break like they did last season.
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Too soon to give up on Libby. He has the talent. We can rebuild him.

Patience.
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rbirules wrote: 19 May 2026 20:33 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 19 May 2026 20:20 pm
southernblues wrote: 19 May 2026 20:18 pm Blew up in 6th inning the start before this and now in the fifth inning. We need to try someone else!!!!
Or maybe be creative and introduce an opener 1-2 innings letting him start against 7-8 getting him an extra inning only having to face 1-6 twice.
If your sole objective is winning as many games as possible that's a perfectly fine idea. If your goal is to balance winning along with developing and/or evaluating talent to determine who to keep going forward then letting Liberatore try and work through this makes a lot of sense. Same thing with letting Burleson and Gorman face LH pitching.
100%
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rbirules wrote: 19 May 2026 20:33 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 19 May 2026 20:20 pm
southernblues wrote: 19 May 2026 20:18 pm Blew up in 6th inning the start before this and now in the fifth inning. We need to try someone else!!!!
Or maybe be creative and introduce an opener 1-2 innings letting him start against 7-8 getting him an extra inning only having to face 1-6 twice.
If your sole objective is winning as many games as possible that's a perfectly fine idea. If your goal is to balance winning along with developing and/or evaluating talent to determine who to keep going forward then letting Liberatore try and work through this makes a lot of sense. Same thing with letting Burleson and Gorman face LH pitching.
Agree 100%. Liberatore has nasty stuff. He rolls along fine than boom there's men on base in the middle innings and he can't make an out pitch to save his life. They need to solve the puzzle. I think Yogi had it right. It's 90% mental. The other half is physical.
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He’ll work through it. I’m not worried. He just won’t be on the Allstar Roster this year
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Does Winn get to some of those balls Prieto didn't?
Yes, Libby can be frustrating, but maybe with Winn in there it looks a lot different last night.
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Leave Liberatore alone and let him work through this next phase of development. He went from low command not missing any bats, to relief and starting to sharpen command and miss some bats, to starter again and developing endurance, hopefully makes the jump to ace in the next year. If not he is a cost controlled backend with potential to throw a gem.

Best case we see him flourish and become the next (lefty) AW.

Will need a TOR starter next year regardless. Was great to see the strikeouts yesterday and that curve was wicked.
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rbirules wrote: 19 May 2026 20:33 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 19 May 2026 20:20 pm
southernblues wrote: 19 May 2026 20:18 pm Blew up in 6th inning the start before this and now in the fifth inning. We need to try someone else!!!!
Or maybe be creative and introduce an opener 1-2 innings letting him start against 7-8 getting him an extra inning only having to face 1-6 twice.
If your sole objective is winning as many games as possible that's a perfectly fine idea. If your goal is to balance winning along with developing and/or evaluating talent to determine who to keep going forward then letting Liberatore try and work through this makes a lot of sense. Same thing with letting Burleson and Gorman face LH pitching.
If we were discussing McGreevy or JJ, you would have a point. But I think all three players mentioned are in their fifth season.

I’m not really into giving Libby an opener, but I’m fine with coming to terms that Burly isn’t great vs LHP, and managing the roster accordingly…
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The first 4 innings showed you what he's capable of. The 5th showed what he's still gotta figure out. You'd be idiotic to pull him at this point. See if he can figure it out.
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Red Bird Classic wrote: 19 May 2026 22:23 pm Too soon to give up on Libby. He has the talent. We can rebuild him.

Patience.
He was doing better than fine for a while there.....