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StLouis-4Life2
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Who says no?
To San Jose: Parayako, Kyrou and Colorado number 1
To Blues: #2 pick, 2026 and 2027 second round picks, and 2028 first round pick
Kyrou 40 goal potential with celebrini and cost controlled, parayako veteran presence, and still maintain a first round pick to keep fans happy.
Blues bank on Stenberg potential (almost same ppg as Forsberg in the same league at the same age). Hope to be able to draft Rudolph at 11, if not reach and take Juno P.
Could see them asking for one of our defenseman instead of Colorado pick but I wouldn't want to give them Fischer(think he has the most potential) or Ralph(seeing him as perfect 3LD for 10 years but I feel we need more in return if we give them Lindstein. Maybe they take Buchinger and winger like pekarick instead
To Blues: #2 pick, 2026 and 2027 second round picks, and 2028 first round pick
Kyrou 40 goal potential with celebrini and cost controlled, parayako veteran presence, and still maintain a first round pick to keep fans happy.
Blues bank on Stenberg potential (almost same ppg as Forsberg in the same league at the same age). Hope to be able to draft Rudolph at 11, if not reach and take Juno P.
Could see them asking for one of our defenseman instead of Colorado pick but I wouldn't want to give them Fischer(think he has the most potential) or Ralph(seeing him as perfect 3LD for 10 years but I feel we need more in return if we give them Lindstein. Maybe they take Buchinger and winger like pekarick instead
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CheapSeat
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Re: Who says no?
Anyone who is a Blues fan, and anybody that works for the Blues!
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Walter Sobchak00
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Re: Who says no?
San JoseStLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:29 pm To San Jose: Parayako, Kyrou and Colorado number 1
To Blues: #2 pick, 2026 and 2027 second round picks, and 2028 first round pick
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StLouis-4Life2
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Re: Who says no?
A no on each side already. Definitely makes it seem like a fair trade then 

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Re: Who says no?
As has been stated, you reach a point where you no longer have room for all these picks. A β28 first is 6 years away from being seen in a Blues uni at best. Thatβs too long.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:29 pm To San Jose: Parayako, Kyrou and Colorado number 1
To Blues: #2 pick, 2026 and 2027 second round picks, and 2028 first round pick
Kyrou 40 goal potential with celebrini and cost controlled, parayako veteran presence, and still maintain a first round pick to keep fans happy.
Blues bank on Stenberg potential (almost same ppg as Forsberg in the same league at the same age). Hope to be able to draft Rudolph at 11, if not reach and take Juno P.
Could see them asking for one of our defenseman instead of Colorado pick but I wouldn't want to give them Fischer(think he has the most potential) or Ralph(seeing him as perfect 3LD for 10 years but I feel we need more in return if we give them Lindstein. Maybe they take Buchinger and winger like pekarick instead
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Walter Sobchak00
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Re: Who says no?
Those 3 draft picks San Jose is giving is what my opinion is based on. They aren't guaranteed to be a playoff team next year and they could end up being mid round picks.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:42 pm A no on each side already. Definitely makes it seem like a fair trade then![]()
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Re: Who says no?
I can tell OP is a Blues fan. Not only does SJ say no, they also file restraining orders against Blues management
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StLouis-4Life2
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Re: Who says no?
I'm actually counting on never seeing that pick in a blues uniform. I'm hoping we are close enough by the end of next season we use that pick in the off.season with other assets to get the missing piecenetboy65 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:50 pmAs has been stated, you reach a point where you no longer have room for all these picks. A β28 first is 6 years away from being seen in a Blues uni at best. Thatβs too long.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:29 pm To San Jose: Parayako, Kyrou and Colorado number 1
To Blues: #2 pick, 2026 and 2027 second round picks, and 2028 first round pick
Kyrou 40 goal potential with celebrini and cost controlled, parayako veteran presence, and still maintain a first round pick to keep fans happy.
Blues bank on Stenberg potential (almost same ppg as Forsberg in the same league at the same age). Hope to be able to draft Rudolph at 11, if not reach and take Juno P.
Could see them asking for one of our defenseman instead of Colorado pick but I wouldn't want to give them Fischer(think he has the most potential) or Ralph(seeing him as perfect 3LD for 10 years but I feel we need more in return if we give them Lindstein. Maybe they take Buchinger and winger like pekarick instead
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StLouis-4Life2
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Re: Who says no?
Think everyone is underestimating Parayako and Kyrou's trade value. Remember how everyone thought last year at this time we will be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for Faulk?Walter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:53 pmThose 3 draft picks San Jose is giving is what my opinion is based on. They aren't guaranteed to be a playoff team next year and they could end up being mid round picks.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:42 pm A no on each side already. Definitely makes it seem like a fair trade then![]()
Parayako was on team Canada and Kyrou had multiple 30 goal season s before last year. Sometimes you don't realize how good people are because you have seen them be better. So the devaluation in your mind becomes monumental when it isn't the case in reality.
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Walter Sobchak00
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Re: Who says no?
Might be under estimating the value of the #2 pickStLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:09 pmThink everyone is underestimating Parayako and Kyrou's trade value. Remember how everyone thought last year at this time we will be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for Faulk?Walter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:53 pmThose 3 draft picks San Jose is giving is what my opinion is based on. They aren't guaranteed to be a playoff team next year and they could end up being mid round picks.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:42 pm A no on each side already. Definitely makes it seem like a fair trade then![]()
Parayako was on team Canada and Kyrou had multiple 30 goal season s before last year. Sometimes you don't realize how good people are because you have seen them be better. So the devaluation in your mind becomes monumental when it isn't the case in reality.
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StLouis-4Life2
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Re: Who says no?
There are no guarantees the number 2 pick overall will even be a nhl starter. Hell look at Nail Yakupov who was number 1 overallWalter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:15 pmMight be under estimating the value of the #2 pickStLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:09 pmThink everyone is underestimating Parayako and Kyrou's trade value. Remember how everyone thought last year at this time we will be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for Faulk?Walter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:53 pmThose 3 draft picks San Jose is giving is what my opinion is based on. They aren't guaranteed to be a playoff team next year and they could end up being mid round picks.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:42 pm A no on each side already. Definitely makes it seem like a fair trade then![]()
Parayako was on team Canada and Kyrou had multiple 30 goal season s before last year. Sometimes you don't realize how good people are because you have seen them be better. So the devaluation in your mind becomes monumental when it isn't the case in reality.
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Walter Sobchak00
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Re: Who says no?
Only 1 in the last 25 years wasn't and it was due to injury.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:21 pmThere are no guarantees the number 2 pick overall will even be a nhl starter. Hell look at Nail Yakupov who was number 1 overallWalter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:15 pmMight be under estimating the value of the #2 pickStLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:09 pmThink everyone is underestimating Parayako and Kyrou's trade value. Remember how everyone thought last year at this time we will be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for Faulk?Walter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:53 pmThose 3 draft picks San Jose is giving is what my opinion is based on. They aren't guaranteed to be a playoff team next year and they could end up being mid round picks.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:42 pm A no on each side already. Definitely makes it seem like a fair trade then![]()
Parayako was on team Canada and Kyrou had multiple 30 goal season s before last year. Sometimes you don't realize how good people are because you have seen them be better. So the devaluation in your mind becomes monumental when it isn't the case in reality.
Patrick
Kakko
Murray
Lehtonen
Those are the 4 that would be a lower value than 55 or 25.
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StLouis-4Life2
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Re: Who says no?
Just going off the last 10: 2025: Michael Misa (Saginaw, OHL) - Selected by San Jose Sharks2024: Artyom Levshunov (Michigan State, NCAA) - Selected by Chicago Blackhawks2023: Leo Carlsson (Orebro HK, SHL)2022: Simon Nemec (HK Nitra, Slovakia)2021: Matty Beniers (Michigan, NCAA)2020: Quinton Byfield (Sudbury, OHL)2019: Kaapo Kakko (TPS, Finland)2018: Andrei Svechnikov (Barrie, OHL)2017: Nolan Patrick (Brandon, WHL)2016: Patrik Laine (Tappara, Finland)Walter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:26 pmOnly 1 in the last 25 years wasn't and it was due to injury.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:21 pmThere are no guarantees the number 2 pick overall will even be a nhl starter. Hell look at Nail Yakupov who was number 1 overallWalter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:15 pmMight be under estimating the value of the #2 pickStLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:09 pmThink everyone is underestimating Parayako and Kyrou's trade value. Remember how everyone thought last year at this time we will be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for Faulk?Walter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:53 pmThose 3 draft picks San Jose is giving is what my opinion is based on. They aren't guaranteed to be a playoff team next year and they could end up being mid round picks.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:42 pm A no on each side already. Definitely makes it seem like a fair trade then![]()
Parayako was on team Canada and Kyrou had multiple 30 goal season s before last year. Sometimes you don't realize how good people are because you have seen them be better. So the devaluation in your mind becomes monumental when it isn't the case in reality.
Patrick
Kakko
Murray
Lehtonen
Those are the 4 that would be a lower value than 55 or 25.
I would point out Beniers, Byfield and Kaapo have never scored more than 50 points in a year(Kyrous worst in last few years was 46 last year) Nolan Patrick is a never was and Laine is bigger cancer than Kyrou. Svechinov only has 5 more over last 3 years than Kyrou but I'll give you him. So basically 50% have more value than just kyrou and we aren't even bringing parayako into the mix
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Walter Sobchak00
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Re: Who says no?
Misa and Levshunov are just coming into the league..StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 15:08 pmJust going off the last 10: 2025: Michael Misa (Saginaw, OHL) - Selected by San Jose Sharks2024: Artyom Levshunov (Michigan State, NCAA) - Selected by Chicago Blackhawks2023: Leo Carlsson (Orebro HK, SHL)2022: Simon Nemec (HK Nitra, Slovakia)2021: Matty Beniers (Michigan, NCAA)2020: Quinton Byfield (Sudbury, OHL)2019: Kaapo Kakko (TPS, Finland)2018: Andrei Svechnikov (Barrie, OHL)2017: Nolan Patrick (Brandon, WHL)2016: Patrik Laine (Tappara, Finland)Walter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:26 pmOnly 1 in the last 25 years wasn't and it was due to injury.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:21 pmThere are no guarantees the number 2 pick overall will even be a nhl starter. Hell look at Nail Yakupov who was number 1 overallWalter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:15 pmMight be under estimating the value of the #2 pickStLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:09 pmThink everyone is underestimating Parayako and Kyrou's trade value. Remember how everyone thought last year at this time we will be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for Faulk?Walter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:53 pmThose 3 draft picks San Jose is giving is what my opinion is based on. They aren't guaranteed to be a playoff team next year and they could end up being mid round picks.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:42 pm A no on each side already. Definitely makes it seem like a fair trade then![]()
Parayako was on team Canada and Kyrou had multiple 30 goal season s before last year. Sometimes you don't realize how good people are because you have seen them be better. So the devaluation in your mind becomes monumental when it isn't the case in reality.
Patrick
Kakko
Murray
Lehtonen
Those are the 4 that would be a lower value than 55 or 25.
I would point out Beniers, Byfield and Kaapo have never scored more than 50 points in a year(Kyrous worst in last few years was 46 last year) Nolan Patrick is a never was and Laine is bigger cancer than Kyrou. Svechinov only has 5 more over last 3 years than Kyrou but I'll give you him. So basically 50% have more value than just kyrou and we aren't even bringing parayako into the mix
Beniers and Byfield are centers and have more value than Kyrou
Laine's was amazing to start his career and fell off a cliff
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Re: Who says no?
Are you meaning to say what Faulk is really worth? Or the price that Detroit paid? Or the price that Detroit thought they would pay?StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 14:09 pmThink everyone is underestimating Parayako and Kyrou's trade value. Remember how everyone thought last year at this time we will be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for Faulk?Walter Sobchak00 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:53 pmThose 3 draft picks San Jose is giving is what my opinion is based on. They aren't guaranteed to be a playoff team next year and they could end up being mid round picks.StLouis-4Life2 wrote: β09 May 2026 13:42 pm A no on each side already. Definitely makes it seem like a fair trade then![]()
Parayako was on team Canada and Kyrou had multiple 30 goal season s before last year. Sometimes you don't realize how good people are because you have seen them be better. So the devaluation in your mind becomes monumental when it isn't the case in reality.
IMO. I believe that Faulk is a late-round 1st or 2nd, and that is what Detroit thought that they were paying for him.
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Re: Who says no?
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that Parayko does not go anywhere else anytime soon.