Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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bretto12 wrote: 09 May 2026 07:53 am With all the K's, he is on pace for 90 RBIs.
Correct.
Third baseman hitting 5th, on pace for 90+ RBI (most productive 3B in MLB in RBI pace), bats LH, and is playing defense which according to the metrics is at Gold Glove level.
Weird that many of the "best fans in baseball" fail to grasp those are good things.
Yes, it would be a good thing if he struck out 5 fewer times in every 100 PA's - but he is doing EXACTLY what his role requires.
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2026 22:10 pm According to a very knowledgeable source...pitchers throw nothing but Fat Meatballs to Walker!
Last 2 wks after they quit throwing the FAT inside high MEATBALLS….2HR

Start of season when they were throwing FAT inside high MEATBALLS…10HR

Don’t let facts get in the way of your excited Obstinance
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 May 2026 07:19 am
Kentucky kid wrote: 08 May 2026 19:46 pm I honestly would send Gorman to whoever fixed walker
Are they supposed to be equivalent? :roll:
No doubt

Apples to Oranges

Rarely do two players respond to the same approach.
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Gorman will get a full chance this season. He may strikeout 175 times and still hit 20 - 25 Hrs and drive in 85. Time will tell but thank goodness he is playing a steady 3rd base defensively.
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Goldfan wrote: 09 May 2026 09:16 am
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2026 22:10 pm According to a very knowledgeable source...pitchers throw nothing but Fat Meatballs to Walker!
Last 2 wks after they quit throwing the FAT inside high MEATBALLS….2HR

Start of season when they were throwing FAT inside high MEATBALLS…10HR

Don’t let facts get in the way of your excited Obstinance
Hey.....now that was rude!
And after I CREDITED you with being a “knowledgeable source”!!! LOL
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Why is Albert Pujols going to be in the Hall of Fame and Reggie Sanders won’t?

And that’s a great idea about the same people in the Cardinals organization who worked with Walker working with Gorman. They’ve probably never thought of or tried that.

I guess these are all part of life’s greatest mysteries.
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Goldfan wrote: 09 May 2026 08:03 am
Cardinals1964 wrote: 08 May 2026 21:19 pm Gorman to me is always looking in right field when he’s swinging. He also steps out when swinging instead of forward. I’m sure the coaches see this and must not think it’s a problem. Watch him next at bat and see if I’m wrong.
Plain as day. Same thing we’ve been posting on here about the last 2yrs. Edmonds pointed it out for a whole game…..
Been hitting like that his entire life…..can’t change.
Remember in Little League if you were stepping in the bucket the coach would lay bats behind your feet? lol.
Maybe they should put a bear trap behind him.
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Cardinals1964 wrote: 09 May 2026 09:34 am
Goldfan wrote: 09 May 2026 08:03 am
Cardinals1964 wrote: 08 May 2026 21:19 pm Gorman to me is always looking in right field when he’s swinging. He also steps out when swinging instead of forward. I’m sure the coaches see this and must not think it’s a problem. Watch him next at bat and see if I’m wrong.
Plain as day. Same thing we’ve been posting on here about the last 2yrs. Edmonds pointed it out for a whole game…..
Been hitting like that his entire life…..can’t change.
Remember in Little League if you were stepping in the bucket the coach would lay bats behind your feet? lol.
Maybe they should put a bear trap behind him.
It really is as simple at that. When he keeps his front side in and head on ball usually good results happen. I can’t believe they let him through the system hitting like that. Last season he was noticeably closed with his stance. Had no power. I guess they let him go back to open and hope he gets into enough and they go out……
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Goldfan wrote: 09 May 2026 09:16 am
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2026 22:10 pm According to a very knowledgeable source...pitchers throw nothing but Fat Meatballs to Walker!
Last 2 wks after they quit throwing the FAT inside high MEATBALLS….2HR

Start of season when they were throwing FAT inside high MEATBALLS…10HR

Don’t let facts get in the way of your excited Obstinance
Last 30 games
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Last 15 games
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Last 7 games
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Don't let the fact get in the way of your trolling agenda
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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imyourhuckleberry wrote: 09 May 2026 10:43 am
Goldfan wrote: 09 May 2026 09:16 am
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2026 22:10 pm According to a very knowledgeable source...pitchers throw nothing but Fat Meatballs to Walker!
Last 2 wks after they quit throwing the FAT inside high MEATBALLS….2HR

Start of season when they were throwing FAT inside high MEATBALLS…10HR

Don’t let facts get in the way of your excited Obstinance
Last 30 games
.319\.398\.603\1.001

Last 15 games
.296\.400\.481\.881

Last 7 games
.391\.517\.696\1.213

Don't let the fact get in the way of your trolling agenda
Referring to HR….nothing else. I think he’s adjusted great and the stats show it. But he isn’t launching like he was because they stop throwing the up and in meatballs that are in his HR sweetspot.
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Goldfan wrote: 09 May 2026 10:47 am
imyourhuckleberry wrote: 09 May 2026 10:43 am
Goldfan wrote: 09 May 2026 09:16 am
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2026 22:10 pm According to a very knowledgeable source...pitchers throw nothing but Fat Meatballs to Walker!
Last 2 wks after they quit throwing the FAT inside high MEATBALLS….2HR

Start of season when they were throwing FAT inside high MEATBALLS…10HR

Don’t let facts get in the way of your excited Obstinance
Last 30 games
.319\.398\.603\1.001

Last 15 games
.296\.400\.481\.881

Last 7 games
.391\.517\.696\1.213

Don't let the fact get in the way of your trolling agenda
Referring to HR….nothing else. I think he’s adjusted great and the stats show it. But he isn’t launching like he was because they stop throwing the up and in meatballs that are in his HR sweetspot.
If you choose to die on a hill, you do yourself a disservice by not doing your homework first...

Walker's first 8 HRs of this season, 4 of 8 were fastballs:
83.7mph Change
95.6 fastball
92.1 fastball
90.2 fastball
85.2 slider
94.7 sinker
86.7 cutter
85.9 sweeper

#9 84.2 splitter
#10 84.0 slider.

You might have had a point during the first part of the HR binge her went on the first couple of weeks ), 3 of 4 were fastballs. After, 3 of 4 (and his last two), were not.
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Big September game. Tying or winning run on third with one out in the ninth. Other teams closer on the mound. Who do want to take that at bat less than Gorman on the entire roster?
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gpe13579 wrote: 09 May 2026 12:52 pm Big September game. Tying or winning run on third with one out in the ninth. Other teams closer on the mound. Who do want to take that at bat less than Gorman on the entire roster?
Maybe everyone - since Gorman leads the team in sacrifice fly balls this season.....
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Walker struck out less than Gorman in the minors and hit for a better average. That hasn’t changed.
Gorman is driving in runs and playing good D so I won’t complain.

Walker was destined to be a star while guys like Gorman, Burleson and Winn have enough tools to be really good role players.

Walker and Wetherholt are the real superstars of the future and faces of this team. Maybe Hererra too if he can stay healthy. McGreevy might also be the real deal.
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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Melville wrote: 09 May 2026 13:06 pm
gpe13579 wrote: 09 May 2026 12:52 pm Big September game. Tying or winning run on third with one out in the ninth. Other teams closer on the mound. Who do want to take that at bat less than Gorman on the entire roster?
Maybe everyone - since Gorman leads the team in sacrifice fly balls this season.....
Well it helps that he has had more PAs than anyone else in situations like that, too.
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Re: Why is Walker having success and Gorman continues to strikeout so much?

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 09 May 2026 13:10 pm Walker struck out less than Gorman in the minors and hit for a better average. That hasn’t changed.
Gorman is driving in runs and playing good D so I won’t complain.

Walker was destined to be a star while guys like Gorman, Burleson and Winn have enough tools to be really good role players.

Walker and Wetherholt are the real superstars of the future and faces of this team. Maybe Hererra too if he can stay healthy. McGreevy might also be the real deal.
Currently it is not strikeouts that are separating the two 29% to 28%