Dylan Carlson released

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Re: Dylan Carlson released

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1_12_1968 wrote: 06 May 2026 17:31 pm 3rd in ROY voting in 2021 with an OPS+ of 115.

Weird. He lost the magic.
I saw him in spring training a few years ago and I thought he was a no miss product of the Cardinas minor league system. Just shows how difficult it is being successful.
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1_12_1968 wrote: 06 May 2026 17:31 pm 3rd in ROY voting in 2021 with an OPS+ of 115.

Weird. He lost the magic.
Granted, it was only Spring Training but he was at the top of his game a few years ago and looked to have the starting CF job and then BAM! he ran into a wall. I mean a Walker.
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Re: Dylan Carlson released

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Rollin' on the River wrote: 06 May 2026 13:50 pm And to think we’d have Juan Soto at DH now if it wasn’t for him.
"DYLAN CARLSON YOU WERE NEVER GOING ANYWHERE!"

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Re: Dylan Carlson released

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OldRed wrote: 06 May 2026 17:46 pm
1_12_1968 wrote: 06 May 2026 17:31 pm 3rd in ROY voting in 2021 with an OPS+ of 115.

Weird. He lost the magic.
I saw him in spring training a few years ago and I thought he was a no miss product of the Cardinas minor league system. Just shows how difficult it is being successful.
Even the best scouts can get it wrong. But I do think in the last 2 years STL seems to have improved in all areas of scouting and development. But it is a small sample size. We shall see.
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Rollin' on the River wrote: 06 May 2026 13:50 pm And to think we’d have Juan Soto at DH now if it wasn’t for him.
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The Nard wrote: 06 May 2026 16:38 pm I saw Carlson play a game at Springfield years ago, when he was a highly touted prospect. He played RF and threw a runner out at 3B on one bounce. I believe he went 2for 5 at the plate with a line drive double, and his outs were also loud liners to the OF. I was convinced that he was can’t-miss. Wonder why he can’t hit anymore.
major league pitching ?
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Re: Dylan Carlson released

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No, he showed promise when he first came up; and played a good outfield. It’s still a mystery to me.
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The Nard wrote: 06 May 2026 19:54 pm No, he showed promise when he first came up; and played a good outfield. It’s still a mystery to me.
The league adjusted he didnt adjust back its where walkers career path was headed until this season when he changed what he was doing
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Good luck to him in his next career. Possibly as a hitting coach.
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rightthinker4 wrote: 06 May 2026 20:05 pm Good luck to him in his next career. Possibly as a hitting coach.
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Re: Dylan Carlson released

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The Nard wrote: 06 May 2026 19:54 pm No, he showed promise when he first came up; and played a good outfield. It’s still a mystery to me.
Look at his Statcast page.
1) He didn't barrel balls (50% below MLB avg) after the 2021 season.
2) And when he did hit, he didn't hit the ball hard (30.8% vs league avg. of 37%).
3) He batted left handed 75% of the time and was awful vs RHP.
4) He had horrible power for a good-sized guy. 43 career HRs over 7 seasons. Career .371 slugging %.

Pretty swing, but the opposite of JW. We always had hope with JW because he had such hard contact; he just needed more of it, which we hope Walker's discovered.
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-p ... itting-mlb

Why did Melville EVER think the guy was such a star?
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ClassicO wrote: 06 May 2026 20:26 pm
The Nard wrote: 06 May 2026 19:54 pm No, he showed promise when he first came up; and played a good outfield. It’s still a mystery to me.
Look at his Statcast page.
1) He didn't barrel balls (50% below MLB avg) after the 2021 season.
2) And when he did hit, he didn't hit the ball hard (30.8% vs league avg. of 37%).
3) He batted left handed 75% of the time and was awful vs RHP.
4) He had horrible power for a good-sized guy. 43 career HRs over 7 seasons. Career .371 slugging %.

Pretty swing, but the opposite of JW. We always had hope with JW because he had such hard contact; he just needed more of it, which we hope Walker's discovered.
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-p ... itting-mlb

Why did Melville EVER think the guy was such a star?
I never understood the infatuation with him. He looked to be a solid player but never got the star potential from watching or the metrics.

This new bunch of players are soooo much better.
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Re: Dylan Carlson released

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riff raff wrote: 06 May 2026 13:17 pm I understand he'll be moving into me-ville's basement
Nice going.....made me spit my drink out....LOL
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Re: Dylan Carlson released

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Rollin' on the River wrote: 06 May 2026 13:50 pm And to think we’d have Juan Soto at DH now if it wasn’t for him.
Remember when people actually believe that there was ever a Carlson for Soto trade that the Cards turned down? It was amusing when facts showed it was all fake news and Carlson was never the reason a Soto trade wasn’t made.

People mixing two different story into one and falsely saying Carlson was the reason the Cardinals killed it.
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Stlcardsblues wrote: 06 May 2026 23:24 pm
Rollin' on the River wrote: 06 May 2026 13:50 pm And to think we’d have Juan Soto at DH now if it wasn’t for him.
Remember when people actually believe that there was ever a Carlson for Soto trade that the Cards turned down? It was amusing when facts showed it was all fake news and Carlson was never the reason a Soto trade wasn’t made.

People mixing two different story into one and falsely saying Carlson was the reason the Cardinals killed it.
I think people think if they repeat wrong information enough that will somehow make it true
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Re: Dylan Carlson released

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 07 May 2026 00:15 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 06 May 2026 23:24 pm
Rollin' on the River wrote: 06 May 2026 13:50 pm And to think we’d have Juan Soto at DH now if it wasn’t for him.8
Remember when people actually believe that there was ever a Carlson for Soto trade that the Cards turned down? It was amusing when facts showed it was all fake news and Carlson was never the reason a Soto trade wasn’t made.

People mixing two different story into one and falsely saying Carlson was the reason the Cardinals killed it.
I think people think if they repeat wrong information enough that will somehow make it true
Repeating lies makes people believe they're not lies, but the truth? Whoever would be so stupid?