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Herreras double- The Cardinal Way.

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Good morning.

Couple thoughts here.

Did you see Herreras bases loaded clearing double. I love that play, the third runner crossing the plate full stride. Herrera is very quietly putting up strong numbers. Soon to be league leading.

Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.

The pen. 25 multi run innings. Say again. Twenty five multi run innings between innings 6-9. A total of 91 runs allowed. That’s 91 runs in 46 innings pitched. That averages to 2 runs per inning.

Stl pen allows over 40! Percent of runners inherited to score.

Starters are going into the sixth. If we can get six complete, we reduce the pen usage by 25-33 percent. One less reliever.

The teams we face this 10 games are not league level Aces, but the teams are first place caliber. Need a 5-5 from this set.

Finally, are you getting a glimpse of the old - Cardinal Way?

Some similarities.
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I think youve been beating that horse on the pitchers they face over the next x span of games. As you can see by the Cardinals record, and their rotation which is far, very far from league ace's.

Great point on their BP. If Stanek can grow off of hus past few performances, that would be huge. It just seems as one guy heats up, a prior hot pitcher hits a pot hole.

The good thing is I think this offense is going to continue to get better. They are starting to remind me of Whitey's teams of the 80s, minus the artificial turf. Timely hitting, speed, and good base running.
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RamFan08NY wrote: 05 May 2026 09:04 am I think youve been beating that horse on the pitchers they face over the next x span of games. As you can see by the Cardinals record, and their rotation which is far, very far from league ace's.

Great point on their BP. If Stanek can grow off of hus past few performances, that would be huge. It just seems as one guy heats up, a prior hot pitcher hits a pot hole.

The good thing is I think this offense is going to continue to get better. They are starting to remind me of Whitey's teams of the 80s, minus the artificial turf. Timely hitting, speed, and good base running.
Yea I have kicked that horse around. But my point wasn’t what or who we were facing, it is- if we can beat them, we really might have something. We can beat good teams. It’s been a measuring stick for me.

This stretch of 37 games is among baseballs best, and we sit 7 over, sweeping and winning series.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am

Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.

I'm not sure what you are expecting....

SEASON
.308 .377 .585 .961

LAST 7 DAYS
.429 .452 .714 1.166

LAST 14 DAYS
.311 .385 .489 .874

If that is not "barrelling" or considered uber successful, then I do not know what is.
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Basil Shabazz wrote: 05 May 2026 09:12 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am

Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.

I'm not sure what you are expecting....

SEASON
.308 .377 .585 .961

LAST 7 DAYS
.429 .452 .714 1.166

LAST 14 DAYS
.311 .385 .489 .874

If that is not "barrelling" or considered uber successful, then I do not know what is.
Ahh i said nothing about success. He is very successful right now, and I’m elated.

But I’ve seen about a dozen of his recent hits. He kills everything currently but still not on the sweet spot. When he barrels completely, look out.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Good morning.

Couple thoughts here.

Did you see Herreras bases loaded clearing double. I love that play, the third runner crossing the plate full stride. Herrera is very quietly putting up strong numbers. Soon to be league leading.

Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.

The pen. 25 multi run innings. Say again. Twenty five multi run innings between innings 6-9. A total of 91 runs allowed. That’s 91 runs in 46 innings pitched. That averages to 2 runs per inning.

Stl pen allows over 40! Percent of runners inherited to score.

Starters are going into the sixth. If we can get six complete, we reduce the pen usage by 25-33 percent. One less reliever.

The teams we face this 10 games are not league level Aces, but the teams are first place caliber. Need a 5-5 from this set.

Finally, are you getting a glimpse of the old - Cardinal Way?

Some similarities.
Please don't propagate that "Cardinal Way" nonsense. It implies the Cardinals are the only ones capable of playing "the right way" and are therefore, somehow superior to other teams that don't possess this mystical quality. I know the original thesis for this doesn't imply that, but that's how it comes across to every other fan in MLB.
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blackinkbiz wrote: 05 May 2026 09:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Good morning.

Couple thoughts here.

Did you see Herreras bases loaded clearing double. I love that play, the third runner crossing the plate full stride. Herrera is very quietly putting up strong numbers. Soon to be league leading.

Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.

The pen. 25 multi run innings. Say again. Twenty five multi run innings between innings 6-9. A total of 91 runs allowed. That’s 91 runs in 46 innings pitched. That averages to 2 runs per inning.

Stl pen allows over 40! Percent of runners inherited to score.

Starters are going into the sixth. If we can get six complete, we reduce the pen usage by 25-33 percent. One less reliever.

The teams we face this 10 games are not league level Aces, but the teams are first place caliber. Need a 5-5 from this set.

Finally, are you getting a glimpse of the old - Cardinal Way?

Some similarities.
Please don't propagate that "Cardinal Way" nonsense. It implies the Cardinals are the only ones capable of playing "the right way" and are therefore, somehow superior to other teams that don't possess this mystical quality. I know the original thesis for this doesn't imply that, but that's how it comes across to every other fan in MLB.
Ha. Pompous I agree. But the he Cardinal Way mention, was simply to describe the difference in the team this year from last. Not attempting to make it a big deal. Low key.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.
Gotta disagree w/you here BDog

Walker has tripled his barrel rate from 2025, now sits at 20.5% which is in the Top 3% of MLB!
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rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.
Gotta disagree w/you here BDog

Walker has tripled his barrel rate from 2025, now sits at 20.5% which is in the Top 3% of MLB!
From the eye test. Seems several were miss hit, found a hole, or fell in, but that’s not the over arching point, it’s that he his hitting everything and I think his EV could go up a bit.

I have high expectations.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 09:39 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 05 May 2026 09:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Good morning.

Couple thoughts here.

Did you see Herreras bases loaded clearing double. I love that play, the third runner crossing the plate full stride. Herrera is very quietly putting up strong numbers. Soon to be league leading.

Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.

The pen. 25 multi run innings. Say again. Twenty five multi run innings between innings 6-9. A total of 91 runs allowed. That’s 91 runs in 46 innings pitched. That averages to 2 runs per inning.

Stl pen allows over 40! Percent of runners inherited to score.

Starters are going into the sixth. If we can get six complete, we reduce the pen usage by 25-33 percent. One less reliever.

The teams we face this 10 games are not league level Aces, but the teams are first place caliber. Need a 5-5 from this set.

Finally, are you getting a glimpse of the old - Cardinal Way?

Some similarities.
Please don't propagate that "Cardinal Way" nonsense. It implies the Cardinals are the only ones capable of playing "the right way" and are therefore, somehow superior to other teams that don't possess this mystical quality. I know the original thesis for this doesn't imply that, but that's how it comes across to every other fan in MLB.
Ha. Pompous I agree. But the he Cardinal Way mention, was simply to describe the difference in the team this year from last. Not attempting to make it a big deal. Low key.
Except the Cardinal Way was always about playing good all around fundamental baseball. Moving runners, two strike approach, hit the ball to all fields, running the bases well. On D it is about always hitting the cut off man, always throwing to the right base, making all the routine plays, etc... It simply about clean, fundamental baseball and not beating yourselves. Over a 162 game season, it really matters. Of course other teams can do it too, but that was what was taught in the system. So far, this current team is fielding well, and the baserunning has been pretty darn good. Gorman made a dumb play getting tagged out at second yesterday, but it didn't cost them, and I bet he won't do that again. I can't think of too many other poor baserunning plays lately. They are making all the routine plays on D, and some pretty spectacular ones as well. Walker has pretty well learned when to unleash the canon arm, and when to play under control. It is all the little things that help you win.

I would like to see a bit more hit and run and things like that. If JJ gets on, there is the chance to do that with Herrera or Burley. But all in all, they are playing some pretty sound fundamental ball right now.
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bccardsfan wrote: 05 May 2026 10:17 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 09:39 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 05 May 2026 09:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Good morning.

Couple thoughts here.

Did you see Herreras bases loaded clearing double. I love that play, the third runner crossing the plate full stride. Herrera is very quietly putting up strong numbers. Soon to be league leading.

Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.

The pen. 25 multi run innings. Say again. Twenty five multi run innings between innings 6-9. A total of 91 runs allowed. That’s 91 runs in 46 innings pitched. That averages to 2 runs per inning.

Stl pen allows over 40! Percent of runners inherited to score.

Starters are going into the sixth. If we can get six complete, we reduce the pen usage by 25-33 percent. One less reliever.

The teams we face this 10 games are not league level Aces, but the teams are first place caliber. Need a 5-5 from this set.

Finally, are you getting a glimpse of the old - Cardinal Way?

Some similarities.
Please don't propagate that "Cardinal Way" nonsense. It implies the Cardinals are the only ones capable of playing "the right way" and are therefore, somehow superior to other teams that don't possess this mystical quality. I know the original thesis for this doesn't imply that, but that's how it comes across to every other fan in MLB.
Ha. Pompous I agree. But the he Cardinal Way mention, was simply to describe the difference in the team this year from last. Not attempting to make it a big deal. Low key.
Except the Cardinal Way was always about playing good all around fundamental baseball. Moving runners, two strike approach, hit the ball to all fields, running the bases well. On D it is about always hitting the cut off man, always throwing to the right base, making all the routine plays, etc... It simply about clean, fundamental baseball and not beating yourselves. Over a 162 game season, it really matters. Of course other teams can do it too, but that was what was taught in the system. So far, this current team is fielding well, and the baserunning has been pretty darn good. Gorman made a dumb play getting tagged out at second yesterday, but it didn't cost them, and I bet he won't do that again. I can't think of too many other poor baserunning plays lately. They are making all the routine plays on D, and some pretty spectacular ones as well. Walker has pretty well learned when to unleash the canon arm, and when to play under control. It is all the little things that help you win.

I would like to see a bit more hit and run and things like that. If JJ gets on, there is the chance to do that with Herrera or Burley. But all in all, they are playing some pretty sound fundamental ball right now.
They are playing pretty sound fundamentals ball. Ok. Reflection of yesterday year.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 10:12 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.
Gotta disagree w/you here BDog

Walker has tripled his barrel rate from 2025, now sits at 20.5% which is in the Top 3% of MLB!
From the eye test. Seems several were miss hit, found a hole, or fell in, but that’s not the over arching point, it’s that he his hitting everything and I think his EV could go up a bit.

I have high expectations.
As for his exit velo (EV), he's in the TOP 1 % of MLB w/an average EV of 95.7 MPH! 8O

He's upped his hard hit rate from 43.5% in 2025 to 48.8% this season!

He's increased his launch angle from 4.8 in 2025 to 14.2 degrees in 2026 reducing his ground ball rate from 51.2% in 2025 to 38.5% in 2026!
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rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 10:12 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.
Gotta disagree w/you here BDog

Walker has tripled his barrel rate from 2025, now sits at 20.5% which is in the Top 3% of MLB!
From the eye test. Seems several were miss hit, found a hole, or fell in, but that’s not the over arching point, it’s that he his hitting everything and I think his EV could go up a bit.

I have high expectations.
As for his exit velo (EV), he's in the TOP 1 % of MLB w/an average EV of 95.7 MPH! 8O

He's upped his hard hit rate from 43.5% in 2025 to 48.8% this season!

He's increased his launch angle from 4.8 in 2025 to 14.2 degrees in 2026 reducing his ground ball rate from 51.2% in 2025 to 38.5% in 2026!
That’s good. If he hits any better, and I say he will, he may blossom right in front of our eyes. To league level stardom.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 10:24 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 10:12 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.
Gotta disagree w/you here BDog

Walker has tripled his barrel rate from 2025, now sits at 20.5% which is in the Top 3% of MLB!
From the eye test. Seems several were miss hit, found a hole, or fell in, but that’s not the over arching point, it’s that he his hitting everything and I think his EV could go up a bit.

I have high expectations.
As for his exit velo (EV), he's in the TOP 1 % of MLB w/an average EV of 95.7 MPH! 8O

He's upped his hard hit rate from 43.5% in 2025 to 48.8% this season!

He's increased his launch angle from 4.8 in 2025 to 14.2 degrees in 2026 reducing his ground ball rate from 51.2% in 2025 to 38.5% in 2026!
That’s good. If he hits any better, and I say he will, he may blossom right in front of our eyes. To league level stardom.
:D

He's now been given the tools by C. Bloom and his staff that could lead to that!
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rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:26 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 10:24 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 10:12 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.
Gotta disagree w/you here BDog

Walker has tripled his barrel rate from 2025, now sits at 20.5% which is in the Top 3% of MLB!
From the eye test. Seems several were miss hit, found a hole, or fell in, but that’s not the over arching point, it’s that he his hitting everything and I think his EV could go up a bit.

I have high expectations.
As for his exit velo (EV), he's in the TOP 1 % of MLB w/an average EV of 95.7 MPH! 8O

He's upped his hard hit rate from 43.5% in 2025 to 48.8% this season!

He's increased his launch angle from 4.8 in 2025 to 14.2 degrees in 2026 reducing his ground ball rate from 51.2% in 2025 to 38.5% in 2026!
That’s good. If he hits any better, and I say he will, he may blossom right in front of our eyes. To league level stardom.
:D

He's now been given the tools by C. Bloom and his staff that could lead to that!
He seems to not allow himself into so many pitchers counts. Seems to swing earlier in the count.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 10:29 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:26 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 10:24 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:22 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 10:12 am
rockondlouie wrote: 05 May 2026 10:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 May 2026 08:31 am Walker believe it or not, seems to still not quite barrel the ball. Lots of miss hits. If that changes, whoah.
Gotta disagree w/you here BDog

Walker has tripled his barrel rate from 2025, now sits at 20.5% which is in the Top 3% of MLB!
From the eye test. Seems several were miss hit, found a hole, or fell in, but that’s not the over arching point, it’s that he his hitting everything and I think his EV could go up a bit.

I have high expectations.
As for his exit velo (EV), he's in the TOP 1 % of MLB w/an average EV of 95.7 MPH! 8O

He's upped his hard hit rate from 43.5% in 2025 to 48.8% this season!

He's increased his launch angle from 4.8 in 2025 to 14.2 degrees in 2026 reducing his ground ball rate from 51.2% in 2025 to 38.5% in 2026!
That’s good. If he hits any better, and I say he will, he may blossom right in front of our eyes. To league level stardom.
:D

He's now been given the tools by C. Bloom and his staff that could lead to that!
He seems to not allow himself into so many pitchers counts. Seems to swing earlier in the count.
Confidence is high, he's much more relaxed at the plate looking to attack instead of just staying alive.

My old coach use to tell me: "See Ball....Hit Ball Hard" (in other words simplify things and don't overthink).

I loved seeing Jordan taking the same approach:

See ball, hit ball': Cardinals' Jordan Walker says adjustments helped him surge

Ethan Erickson | Post-Dispatch May 2, 20