It's time for Church in CF and
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OldRed
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It's time for Church in CF and
It's time for Church in CF and Fermin in LF.
What do you think?
What do you think?
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sikeston bulldog2
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OldRed
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
Bryan Torres — St. Louis Cardinals Minor League Playersikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:26 amMove must be made gently. Scott to fourth outfielder. Pinch runner, defensive sub, spot starts.
BUT the move is Torres.
Bryan Torres is a 28-year-old left-handed batting, right-handed throwing outfielder.
Not another left-handed hitter who is 5'7" and a 28-year-old rookie.
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Talkin' Baseball
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
My preferred scenario is that Scott would play CF and rebuild his value and would be traded at the deadline to a team needing a defense first center fielder.
Two flaws with my preference: 1) He doesn't seem to be rebuilding any value with playing time. The trajectory is not good. 2) Assuming he begins to do better, people will begin to say we shouldn't trade him.
Two flaws with my preference: 1) He doesn't seem to be rebuilding any value with playing time. The trajectory is not good. 2) Assuming he begins to do better, people will begin to say we shouldn't trade him.
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CorneliusWolfe
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
I wouldn’t hold his age against him. He took the long road but so did Riley O. His size isn’t prototypical by any means and he won’t provide traditional power for the position, but nothing wrong with strong OBP while we’re kind of getting “makeup” power from 2B.OldRed wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:31 amBryan Torres — St. Louis Cardinals Minor League Playersikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:26 amMove must be made gently. Scott to fourth outfielder. Pinch runner, defensive sub, spot starts.
BUT the move is Torres.
Bryan Torres is a 28-year-old left-handed batting, right-handed throwing outfielder.
Not another left-handed hitter who is 5'7" and a 28-year-old rookie.
The left-handed thing is admittedly the downside. If not Torres, I’m with you on Fermin as a much better alternative. He’s earned it too. This is the time where results should be rewarded. No way to sort out a roster than rewarding performance.
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
I would like Torres, he would be a good piece to bat 9th
2B Wetherholt
C Herrera
1B Burleson
RF Walker
3B Gorman
DH Blaze Jordan
CF Church
C Pages
LF Torres / Fermin
2B Wetherholt
C Herrera
1B Burleson
RF Walker
3B Gorman
DH Blaze Jordan
CF Church
C Pages
LF Torres / Fermin
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Talkin' Baseball
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
I want him to get at least a 2 month run this year. I'm not mad if they decide he isn't going to get a shot, but if that is the case would be extremely puzzled as to why he holds a 40 man roster spot.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:41 amI wouldn’t hold his age against him. He took the long road but so did Riley O. His size isn’t prototypical by any means and he won’t provide traditional power for the position, but nothing wrong with strong OBP while we’re kind of getting “makeup” power from 2B.OldRed wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:31 amBryan Torres — St. Louis Cardinals Minor League Playersikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:26 amMove must be made gently. Scott to fourth outfielder. Pinch runner, defensive sub, spot starts.
BUT the move is Torres.
Bryan Torres is a 28-year-old left-handed batting, right-handed throwing outfielder.
Not another left-handed hitter who is 5'7" and a 28-year-old rookie.
The left-handed thing is admittedly the downside. If not Torres, I’m with you on Fermin as a much better alternative. He’s earned it too. This is the time where results should be rewarded. No way to sort out a roster than rewarding performance.
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CorneliusWolfe
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
Two months is fair enough. As far as him taking a roster spot, I’d say depth is a good enough reason (for now) since Church is a rookie and could falter too. Also injury insurance. VS glove is good enough to bring him back up if needed in a pinch.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:45 amI want him to get at least a 2 month run this year. I'm not mad if they decide he isn't going to get a shot, but if that is the case would be extremely puzzled as to why he holds a 40 man roster spot.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:41 amI wouldn’t hold his age against him. He took the long road but so did Riley O. His size isn’t prototypical by any means and he won’t provide traditional power for the position, but nothing wrong with strong OBP while we’re kind of getting “makeup” power from 2B.OldRed wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:31 amBryan Torres — St. Louis Cardinals Minor League Playersikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:26 amMove must be made gently. Scott to fourth outfielder. Pinch runner, defensive sub, spot starts.
BUT the move is Torres.
Bryan Torres is a 28-year-old left-handed batting, right-handed throwing outfielder.
Not another left-handed hitter who is 5'7" and a 28-year-old rookie.
The left-handed thing is admittedly the downside. If not Torres, I’m with you on Fermin as a much better alternative. He’s earned it too. This is the time where results should be rewarded. No way to sort out a roster than rewarding performance.
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:45 amI want him to get at least a 2 month run this year. I'm not mad if they decide he isn't going to get a shot, but if that is the case would be extremely puzzled as to why he holds a 40 man roster spot.CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:41 amI wouldn’t hold his age against him. He took the long road but so did Riley O. His size isn’t prototypical by any means and he won’t provide traditional power for the position, but nothing wrong with strong OBP while we’re kind of getting “makeup” power from 2B.OldRed wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:31 amBryan Torres — St. Louis Cardinals Minor League Playersikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:26 amMove must be made gently. Scott to fourth outfielder. Pinch runner, defensive sub, spot starts.
BUT the move is Torres.
Bryan Torres is a 28-year-old left-handed batting, right-handed throwing outfielder.
Not another left-handed hitter who is 5'7" and a 28-year-old rookie.
The left-handed thing is admittedly the downside. If not Torres, I’m with you on Fermin as a much better alternative. He’s earned it too. This is the time where results should be rewarded. No way to sort out a roster than rewarding performance.
He is an insurance policy.
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
What’s the worst that can happen?OldRed wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:31 amBryan Torres — St. Louis Cardinals Minor League Playersikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑04 May 2026 08:26 amMove must be made gently. Scott to fourth outfielder. Pinch runner, defensive sub, spot starts.
BUT the move is Torres.
Bryan Torres is a 28-year-old left-handed batting, right-handed throwing outfielder.
Not another left-handed hitter who is 5'7" and a 28-year-old rookie.
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
Wow. Well I guess we really do have an excess of catchers in the organization, since they will be taking Masyn Winn's playing time.
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OldRed
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
By rule can only have one player in foul territory.
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Dewey Kuey
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
I don't think anything different will really happen until Noot comes back. Then we will see a change. They are winning right now and unless that totally stops for an extended period of time why try and fix something that isn't broke? I mean winning games is the objective right?
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
Why does being better just stop if you have a winning record, instead of being best team you can be, being first in the division or league?Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑04 May 2026 10:02 amI don't think anything different will really happen until Noot comes back. Then we will see a change. They are winning right now and unless that totally stops for an extended period of time why try and fix something that isn't broke? I mean winning games is the objective right?
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Re: It's time for Church in CF and
Reread what you just wrote and try to rephrase it so it makes sense. Your first part is a question and the last is a statement. I'm not sure what you are try to either say, or ask.Clubmaker2 wrote: ↑04 May 2026 12:05 pmWhy does being better just stop if you have a winning record, instead of being best team you can be, being first in the division or league?Dewey Kuey wrote: ↑04 May 2026 10:02 amI don't think anything different will really happen until Noot comes back. Then we will see a change. They are winning right now and unless that totally stops for an extended period of time why try and fix something that isn't broke? I mean winning games is the objective right?