Cars broken into last night

[BleedingBleu]

News Team, Assemble!

[Horseradish]

It would be helpful if the hand-wringers would provide statistics and factual data to support their conclusions, otherwise this is a bunch of overreacting to a single instance. Baseball fans should understand that sample sizes matter.

A. Thats not permitted on this forum, you know this

B. You have to be living under a rock if you don’t notice it. If we all got a nickel for every time we turned on the morning news and hearing about a murder that happened the night before we could all retire

C. There’s evidence everywhere. It’s not hard to find. Just type in the key words on the google and there ya go. But as I said before…….not permitted here……

Weird combination of sarcasm and hyperbole resulting in a pointless response. Thanks for playing

Yeah not really. Enjoy your rock

Says someone throwing around hyperbole as if it means something. Enjoy being afraid!

Lol I can acknowledge something is an issue without being afraid of it. Nice try though

What exactly are you acknowledging? That crime exists?

The whole premise of this thread and many others from the past on CT is that St. Louis is significantly more dangerous and crime ridden than other major cities with MLB teams. All I’m saying is that no one here has provided evidence to prove that premise, you included.

Moving on…

Again……it’s not permitted

You’re either being purposely ignorant of that or trying to bait me or someone into doing it so they can get banned/suspended. Which I assume in your mind makes you a winner regardless…….they don’t post it and you win or they do and get punished and you win…….

All I’m saying is you can do the research here yourself, it’s not hard to find.

But if you disagree regardless, find yourself stat a home there, go shopping there, go on night walks there, go open yourself up a business.

Why won’t you though?

Because I know reality is different than hyperbole and crime rates in metropolitan STL are comparable to other cities.

I have no idea what you’re talking about regarding providing facts to back up a OP not being permitted. All I’m asking is that folks back up their claims with facts. If you can post a statement about how dangerous STL is, why can’t you post a simple statistic to back said statement up? I didn’t make the claim so asking me to disprove it seems lazy.

[Banner29]

It would be helpful if the hand-wringers would provide statistics and factual data to support their conclusions, otherwise this is a bunch of overreacting to a single instance. Baseball fans should understand that sample sizes matter.

A. Thats not permitted on this forum, you know this

B. You have to be living under a rock if you don’t notice it. If we all got a nickel for every time we turned on the morning news and hearing about a murder that happened the night before we could all retire

C. There’s evidence everywhere. It’s not hard to find. Just type in the key words on the google and there ya go. But as I said before…….not permitted here……

Weird combination of sarcasm and hyperbole resulting in a pointless response. Thanks for playing

Yeah not really. Enjoy your rock

Says someone throwing around hyperbole as if it means something. Enjoy being afraid!

Lol I can acknowledge something is an issue without being afraid of it. Nice try though

What exactly are you acknowledging? That crime exists?

The whole premise of this thread and many others from the past on CT is that St. Louis is significantly more dangerous and crime ridden than other major cities with MLB teams. All I’m saying is that no one here has provided evidence to prove that premise, you included.

Moving on…

Again……it’s not permitted

You’re either being purposely ignorant of that or trying to bait me or someone into doing it so they can get banned/suspended. Which I assume in your mind makes you a winner regardless…….they don’t post it and you win or they do and get punished and you win…….

All I’m saying is you can do the research here yourself, it’s not hard to find.

But if you disagree regardless, find yourself stat a home there, go shopping there, go on night walks there, go open yourself up a business.

Why won’t you though?

Because I know reality is different than hyperbole and crime rates in metropolitan STL are comparable to other cities.

I have no idea what you’re talking about regarding providing facts to back up a OP not being permitted. All I’m asking is that folks back up their claims with facts. If you can post a statement about how dangerous STL is, why can’t you post a simple statistic to back said statement up? I didn’t make the claim so asking me to disprove it seems lazy.

Yeah I’m gonna go with purposely ignorant on your part. I know you’ve been around long enough to know the rules here. Were honestly already going too far in this conversation and are probably just lucky it’s a Sunday evening

All you have to do is type in “most dangerous cities in America” into google. Is that enough spoon feeding for you or can you just not accomplish anything without assistance?

[Quincy Varnish]

Trying to put my finger on what all these big cities have in common. Hmm, it's escaping me...

They were talking on kmox about crime in the city...if I heard it right there have been 2 murders this year? from Jefferson east to the river and Chouteau north to I think it was Pine or Washington. May have been all last year not ytd this year.

There have been 30

Why did they say 2?

They were amazed how low it was.

Is 30 ytd or last year?

tx

30 so far this year… 141 last year

Maybe they were limiting the discussion to downtown?

That's a .massive drop from 5 years ago

There was a massive spike in homicides nationwide around that time, so it’s not that surprising.

[Horseradish]

It would be helpful if the hand-wringers would provide statistics and factual data to support their conclusions, otherwise this is a bunch of overreacting to a single instance. Baseball fans should understand that sample sizes matter.

A. Thats not permitted on this forum, you know this

B. You have to be living under a rock if you don’t notice it. If we all got a nickel for every time we turned on the morning news and hearing about a murder that happened the night before we could all retire

C. There’s evidence everywhere. It’s not hard to find. Just type in the key words on the google and there ya go. But as I said before…….not permitted here……

Weird combination of sarcasm and hyperbole resulting in a pointless response. Thanks for playing

Yeah not really. Enjoy your rock

Says someone throwing around hyperbole as if it means something. Enjoy being afraid!

Lol I can acknowledge something is an issue without being afraid of it. Nice try though

What exactly are you acknowledging? That crime exists?

The whole premise of this thread and many others from the past on CT is that St. Louis is significantly more dangerous and crime ridden than other major cities with MLB teams. All I’m saying is that no one here has provided evidence to prove that premise, you included.

Moving on…

Again……it’s not permitted

You’re either being purposely ignorant of that or trying to bait me or someone into doing it so they can get banned/suspended. Which I assume in your mind makes you a winner regardless…….they don’t post it and you win or they do and get punished and you win…….

All I’m saying is you can do the research here yourself, it’s not hard to find.

But if you disagree regardless, find yourself stat a home there, go shopping there, go on night walks there, go open yourself up a business.

Why won’t you though?

Because I know reality is different than hyperbole and crime rates in metropolitan STL are comparable to other cities.

I have no idea what you’re talking about regarding providing facts to back up a OP not being permitted. All I’m asking is that folks back up their claims with facts. If you can post a statement about how dangerous STL is, why can’t you post a simple statistic to back said statement up? I didn’t make the claim so asking me to disprove it seems lazy.

Yeah I’m gonna go with purposely ignorant on your part. I know you’ve been around long enough to know the rules here. Were honestly already going too far in this conversation and are probably just lucky it’s a Sunday evening

All you have to do is type in “most dangerous cities in America” into google. Is that enough spoon feeding for you or can you just not accomplish anything without assistance?

If you’re lazy and take that approach, sure, it makes sense to be afraid like you are. By as has been pointed out countless time in this forum and may other places, crime rates in St. Louis are considered deceptive, largely because the city-county separation creates a uniquely small geographic, population-dense city (62 sq miles) that is separated from its suburban, safer county counterparts. This results in artificially inflated per-capita crime rankings that don't account for the entire metropolitan area, unlike most other U.S.

[Banner29]

It would be helpful if the hand-wringers would provide statistics and factual data to support their conclusions, otherwise this is a bunch of overreacting to a single instance. Baseball fans should understand that sample sizes matter.

A. Thats not permitted on this forum, you know this

B. You have to be living under a rock if you don’t notice it. If we all got a nickel for every time we turned on the morning news and hearing about a murder that happened the night before we could all retire

C. There’s evidence everywhere. It’s not hard to find. Just type in the key words on the google and there ya go. But as I said before…….not permitted here……

Weird combination of sarcasm and hyperbole resulting in a pointless response. Thanks for playing

Yeah not really. Enjoy your rock

Says someone throwing around hyperbole as if it means something. Enjoy being afraid!

Lol I can acknowledge something is an issue without being afraid of it. Nice try though

What exactly are you acknowledging? That crime exists?

The whole premise of this thread and many others from the past on CT is that St. Louis is significantly more dangerous and crime ridden than other major cities with MLB teams. All I’m saying is that no one here has provided evidence to prove that premise, you included.

Moving on…

Again……it’s not permitted

You’re either being purposely ignorant of that or trying to bait me or someone into doing it so they can get banned/suspended. Which I assume in your mind makes you a winner regardless…….they don’t post it and you win or they do and get punished and you win…….

All I’m saying is you can do the research here yourself, it’s not hard to find.

But if you disagree regardless, find yourself stat a home there, go shopping there, go on night walks there, go open yourself up a business.

Why won’t you though?

Because I know reality is different than hyperbole and crime rates in metropolitan STL are comparable to other cities.

I have no idea what you’re talking about regarding providing facts to back up a OP not being permitted. All I’m asking is that folks back up their claims with facts. If you can post a statement about how dangerous STL is, why can’t you post a simple statistic to back said statement up? I didn’t make the claim so asking me to disprove it seems lazy.

Yeah I’m gonna go with purposely ignorant on your part. I know you’ve been around long enough to know the rules here. Were honestly already going too far in this conversation and are probably just lucky it’s a Sunday evening

All you have to do is type in “most dangerous cities in America” into google. Is that enough spoon feeding for you or can you just not accomplish anything without assistance?

If you’re lazy and take that approach, sure, it makes sense to be afraid like you are. By as has been pointed out countless time in this forum and may other places, crime rates in St. Louis are considered deceptive, largely because the city-county separation creates a uniquely small geographic, population-dense city (62 sq miles) that is separated from its suburban, safer county counterparts. This results in artificially inflated per-capita crime rankings that don't account for the entire metropolitan area, unlike most other U.S.

Ah, great logic. Seeing as how the topic at hand is the city itself, Busch stadium, and the area around it. What goes on in Maryland heights seems to be largely irrelevant here.

But as I reiterate, if it isn’t so bad in the city, based on your logic of diluting the stats with the county statistics. Go ahead and find yourself a home there. It isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be right? What could the issue be?

[Horseradish]

It would be helpful if the hand-wringers would provide statistics and factual data to support their conclusions, otherwise this is a bunch of overreacting to a single instance. Baseball fans should understand that sample sizes matter.

A. Thats not permitted on this forum, you know this

B. You have to be living under a rock if you don’t notice it. If we all got a nickel for every time we turned on the morning news and hearing about a murder that happened the night before we could all retire

C. There’s evidence everywhere. It’s not hard to find. Just type in the key words on the google and there ya go. But as I said before…….not permitted here……

Weird combination of sarcasm and hyperbole resulting in a pointless response. Thanks for playing

Yeah not really. Enjoy your rock

Says someone throwing around hyperbole as if it means something. Enjoy being afraid!

Lol I can acknowledge something is an issue without being afraid of it. Nice try though

What exactly are you acknowledging? That crime exists?

The whole premise of this thread and many others from the past on CT is that St. Louis is significantly more dangerous and crime ridden than other major cities with MLB teams. All I’m saying is that no one here has provided evidence to prove that premise, you included.

Moving on…

Again……it’s not permitted

You’re either being purposely ignorant of that or trying to bait me or someone into doing it so they can get banned/suspended. Which I assume in your mind makes you a winner regardless…….they don’t post it and you win or they do and get punished and you win…….

All I’m saying is you can do the research here yourself, it’s not hard to find.

But if you disagree regardless, find yourself stat a home there, go shopping there, go on night walks there, go open yourself up a business.

Why won’t you though?

Because I know reality is different than hyperbole and crime rates in metropolitan STL are comparable to other cities.

I have no idea what you’re talking about regarding providing facts to back up a OP not being permitted. All I’m asking is that folks back up their claims with facts. If you can post a statement about how dangerous STL is, why can’t you post a simple statistic to back said statement up? I didn’t make the claim so asking me to disprove it seems lazy.

Yeah I’m gonna go with purposely ignorant on your part. I know you’ve been around long enough to know the rules here. Were honestly already going too far in this conversation and are probably just lucky it’s a Sunday evening

All you have to do is type in “most dangerous cities in America” into google. Is that enough spoon feeding for you or can you just not accomplish anything without assistance?

If you’re lazy and take that approach, sure, it makes sense to be afraid like you are. By as has been pointed out countless time in this forum and may other places, crime rates in St. Louis are considered deceptive, largely because the city-county separation creates a uniquely small geographic, population-dense city (62 sq miles) that is separated from its suburban, safer county counterparts. This results in artificially inflated per-capita crime rankings that don't account for the entire metropolitan area, unlike most other U.S.

Ah, great logic. Seeing as how the topic at hand is the city itself, Busch stadium, and the area around it. What goes on in Maryland heights seems to be largely irrelevant here.

But as I reiterate, if it isn’t so bad in the city, based on your logic of diluting the stats with the county statistics. Go ahead and find yourself a home there. It isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be right? What could the issue be?

Strange that you think facts are “my logic”. You brought up googling a specific phrase, I pointed out that while know the results of said search pretty well, there is a reason why the results of that search would be flawed, and now you provide more hyperbole. Just a reminder, you have provided zero data to support any specific claim.

We all know where this is going and why you’re afraid to reply with anything other than your emotions.

[Banner29]

A. Thats not permitted on this forum, you know this

B. You have to be living under a rock if you don’t notice it. If we all got a nickel for every time we turned on the morning news and hearing about a murder that happened the night before we could all retire

C. There’s evidence everywhere. It’s not hard to find. Just type in the key words on the google and there ya go. But as I said before…….not permitted here……

Weird combination of sarcasm and hyperbole resulting in a pointless response. Thanks for playing

Yeah not really. Enjoy your rock

Says someone throwing around hyperbole as if it means something. Enjoy being afraid!

Lol I can acknowledge something is an issue without being afraid of it. Nice try though

What exactly are you acknowledging? That crime exists?

The whole premise of this thread and many others from the past on CT is that St. Louis is significantly more dangerous and crime ridden than other major cities with MLB teams. All I’m saying is that no one here has provided evidence to prove that premise, you included.

Moving on…

Again……it’s not permitted

You’re either being purposely ignorant of that or trying to bait me or someone into doing it so they can get banned/suspended. Which I assume in your mind makes you a winner regardless…….they don’t post it and you win or they do and get punished and you win…….

All I’m saying is you can do the research here yourself, it’s not hard to find.

But if you disagree regardless, find yourself stat a home there, go shopping there, go on night walks there, go open yourself up a business.

Why won’t you though?

Because I know reality is different than hyperbole and crime rates in metropolitan STL are comparable to other cities.

I have no idea what you’re talking about regarding providing facts to back up a OP not being permitted. All I’m asking is that folks back up their claims with facts. If you can post a statement about how dangerous STL is, why can’t you post a simple statistic to back said statement up? I didn’t make the claim so asking me to disprove it seems lazy.

Yeah I’m gonna go with purposely ignorant on your part. I know you’ve been around long enough to know the rules here. Were honestly already going too far in this conversation and are probably just lucky it’s a Sunday evening

All you have to do is type in “most dangerous cities in America” into google. Is that enough spoon feeding for you or can you just not accomplish anything without assistance?

If you’re lazy and take that approach, sure, it makes sense to be afraid like you are. By as has been pointed out countless time in this forum and may other places, crime rates in St. Louis are considered deceptive, largely because the city-county separation creates a uniquely small geographic, population-dense city (62 sq miles) that is separated from its suburban, safer county counterparts. This results in artificially inflated per-capita crime rankings that don't account for the entire metropolitan area, unlike most other U.S.

Ah, great logic. Seeing as how the topic at hand is the city itself, Busch stadium, and the area around it. What goes on in Maryland heights seems to be largely irrelevant here.

But as I reiterate, if it isn’t so bad in the city, based on your logic of diluting the stats with the county statistics. Go ahead and find yourself a home there. It isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be right? What could the issue be?

Strange that you think facts are “my logic”. You brought up googling a specific phrase, I pointed out that while know the results of said search pretty well, there is a reason why the results of that search would be flawed, and now you provide more hyperbole. Just a reminder, you have provided zero data to support any specific claim.

We all know where this is going and why you’re afraid to reply with anything other than your emotions.

Where is it going exactly? And why does that make me afraid? What’s going on in that little noggin of yours that’s drawing you to these conclusions?


I also can’t help but notice you’re conveniently avoiding addressing you doing anything associated with the city……..why is that?

Why won’t you live there?

Why won’t you go on night walks there?

Why won’t you shop there?

Why won’t you start a business there?

If it I’ll isn’t so bad in St Louis city because they don’t factor in the county(your words)……then why do you(likely) and all the others defending the inner city “shenanigans” hide out in the county with all the other “old fart right wingers”

Who’s afraid now?

[45s]

Risk vs Reward…

Of course there is some risk in spending time in the city…

Some feel the reward in going there is worth the risk……..others don’t

It’s not more complicated than that..

[ecleme22]

St. Louis is a weird place.

In my younger years, I lived in Chicago. Remember a road rage near wrigley where some guy shot in the face. Also, in that time, women assaulted near there in an alley. Apartments robbed. Not great stuff. But guess what? Last time I heard, Wrigley still draws VERY well, real estate is through the roof, businesses are making a ton of money, and everything is thriving.

St. Louis has the city/county divide. The county thinks the city is dangerous. So we can have 80 home games safe, but if game 81 there's a car robbery, it's "Oh no! I can't go to the city!" There's a negative opinion of the city, then finding things that justify that rationale.

[Mort Gage]

Lights out tonight, trouble in the heartland
Got a head-on collision smashin' in my guts, man
I'm caught in a crossfire that I don't understand
But there's one thing I know for sure, girl

[11WSChamps]

I park at one of Soulard's restaurants have a burger and a beer or three then take the restaurant shuttle to the ballpark.

Problem solved.