Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
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Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
I don’t disagree necessarily but I don’t know what to do with Noot. Is he 4th OF? Also when he comes in doesn’t someone have to go down or out? Is that Fermin, Sag or Pozo?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
Torres is older than Noot
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
Noot will split time with Church and Scott when he returns. Hopefully he looks good enough to garner interest from potential trade partners. Pozo could be the player to be sent down when Noot is activated. Trouble is, with Herrera being the DH when he is not catching, Pages could not be subbed out without then losing the DH, with no other catcher available.Jatalk wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:54 amI don’t disagree necessarily but I don’t know what to do with Noot. Is he 4th OF? Also when he comes in doesn’t someone have to go down or out? Is that Fermin, Sag or Pozo?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
So Saggese would likely be the one going to Memphis - he needs regular playing time anyway.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
That’s the entire point. What to do with Noot. My feelings is he missed this train. No way I’d insert him ahead of Church. Then Scott.Jatalk wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:54 amI don’t disagree necessarily but I don’t know what to do with Noot. Is he 4th OF? Also when he comes in doesn’t someone have to go down or out? Is that Fermin, Sag or Pozo?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
And the players see a player doing the shuffle bag drag. It just kills the vibe.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
Nootbaar will be the everyday LF when he returns.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
Yea, because getting rid of VS2 batting sub .180 would destroy team chemistry.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
Or VS2 to work on his hitting. They sent Gorman down before. They sent Walker down twice.Jatalk wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:54 amI don’t disagree necessarily but I don’t know what to do with Noot. Is he 4th OF? Also when he comes in doesn’t someone have to go down or out? Is that Fermin, Sag or Pozo?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
Good possibility.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:12 amOr VS2 to work on his hitting. They sent Gorman down before. They sent Walker down twice.Jatalk wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:54 amI don’t disagree necessarily but I don’t know what to do with Noot. Is he 4th OF? Also when he comes in doesn’t someone have to go down or out? Is that Fermin, Sag or Pozo?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
I think he’s a core guy. He’s been around three years now. Sending him down is an environmental downer.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:11 amYea, because getting rid of VS2 batting sub .180 would destroy team chemistry.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
I agree missing his offense wouldn’t hurt. I just think they are hitting on eight cylinders and any more, minus Torres, Can only be worse.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
They are hitting on 7 cylinders with VS2. Winning makes team chemistry and winning more with better players makes better chemistry. You don’t think those players sit on the bench when VS2 is up there knowing it’s the end of the ending?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:19 amI think he’s a core guy. He’s been around three years now. Sending him down is an environmental downer.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:11 amYea, because getting rid of VS2 batting sub .180 would destroy team chemistry.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
I agree missing his offense wouldn’t hurt. I just think they are hitting on eight cylinders and any more, minus Torres, Can only be worse.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
I know, I know. I’m sure they do. And it might be an elephant in the room event.i think his presence is bigger than his performance at this point of the teams success.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:23 amThey are hitting on 7 cylinders with VS2. Winning makes team chemistry and winning more with better players makes better chemistry. You don’t think those players sit on the bench when VS2 is up there knowing it’s the end of the ending?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:19 amI think he’s a core guy. He’s been around three years now. Sending him down is an environmental downer.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:11 amYea, because getting rid of VS2 batting sub .180 would destroy team chemistry.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
I agree missing his offense wouldn’t hurt. I just think they are hitting on eight cylinders and any more, minus Torres, Can only be worse.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
I don't think there's any doubt about that. I'm just not sure they move him if he plays well. Probably depends on if they continue to win. If he doesn't play well, they continue to win, and Baez can get his k's down, i guess they could bring him up. But that would be the boldest move I see.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
Why would you think that? It doesn’t make any sense.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:28 amI know, I know. I’m sure they do. And it might be an elephant in the room event.i think his presence is bigger than his performance at this point of the teams success.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:23 amThey are hitting on 7 cylinders with VS2. Winning makes team chemistry and winning more with better players makes better chemistry. You don’t think those players sit on the bench when VS2 is up there knowing it’s the end of the ending?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:19 amI think he’s a core guy. He’s been around three years now. Sending him down is an environmental downer.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:11 amYea, because getting rid of VS2 batting sub .180 would destroy team chemistry.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
I agree missing his offense wouldn’t hurt. I just think they are hitting on eight cylinders and any more, minus Torres, Can only be worse.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
I’m thinking the players also feel his issues. And when he fails, they may with drawl a bit to avoid the mood. This creates a barrier of sorts.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:29 amWhy would you think that? It doesn’t make any sense.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:28 amI know, I know. I’m sure they do. And it might be an elephant in the room event.i think his presence is bigger than his performance at this point of the teams success.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:23 amThey are hitting on 7 cylinders with VS2. Winning makes team chemistry and winning more with better players makes better chemistry. You don’t think those players sit on the bench when VS2 is up there knowing it’s the end of the ending?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:19 amI think he’s a core guy. He’s been around three years now. Sending him down is an environmental downer.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:11 amYea, because getting rid of VS2 batting sub .180 would destroy team chemistry.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
I agree missing his offense wouldn’t hurt. I just think they are hitting on eight cylinders and any more, minus Torres, Can only be worse.
As for his presence. It’s a bigger positive than his performance offensively.
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Re: Team Chemistry- Noot and Torres
Why is a garbage player a bigger positive than his performance? The fact is, you don’t know. And it’s stupid to claim a worse player should be playing over a better player because it makes the rest of the team happy. Doesn’t make any sense. You can’t explain it.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:33 amI’m thinking the players also feel his issues. And when he fails, they may with drawl a bit to avoid the mood. This creates a barrier of sorts.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:29 amWhy would you think that? It doesn’t make any sense.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:28 amI know, I know. I’m sure they do. And it might be an elephant in the room event.i think his presence is bigger than his performance at this point of the teams success.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:23 amThey are hitting on 7 cylinders with VS2. Winning makes team chemistry and winning more with better players makes better chemistry. You don’t think those players sit on the bench when VS2 is up there knowing it’s the end of the ending?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:19 amI think he’s a core guy. He’s been around three years now. Sending him down is an environmental downer.Cardinals1964 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 07:11 amYea, because getting rid of VS2 batting sub .180 would destroy team chemistry.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑03 May 2026 06:47 am Good morning.
Oli would be a fool to change anything. Let it ride. I feel that chemistry is the final ingredient in the team building model. It’s so very hard to get every human on the same sheet at the same moment. We are there.
Stl is so tight in that clubhouse that you couldn’t bust a fart thru there. Tight. Tight as a goat horn. In fact, the chemistry is so intense, you can hear it crackling. Like thunder.
Noot and Torres.
I’d never mess with chemistry, unless it’s Torres. He is the image and model of an ingredient that will easily insert. He’s earned it. He’s young. Fits it. I’d move him up.i think the chemistry would absorb him.
Noot. Older. Been out of the net. A stranger in town. What could he bring that Torres wouldn’t? I truly don’t see what many of you see in him. I think he creates an elephant in the room effect.
Couple sayings apply here- let sleeping dogs lie, or if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
Chemistry.
I agree missing his offense wouldn’t hurt. I just think they are hitting on eight cylinders and any more, minus Torres, Can only be worse.
As for his presence. It’s a bigger positive than his performance offensively.