Could the rebuild out last JJ tenure

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Over night thought. Could the rebuild drag on for 3-5 more years. If not a rebuild, then a down turn.

Given that, JJ will be in Arb years, approaching FA. If he turns into stud, we can’t afford him. So we are limited on years on the team.

So isn’t it a fact we got 5 ish years to become competitive, build the core, and then compete, before his status is an issue.

We are young pitcher heavy now, and infielder heavy. We will saturate the outfield next. Then lock out.

Any thing here.

[OldRed]

Good morning.

Over night thought. Could the rebuild drag on for 3-5 more years. If not a rebuild, then a down turn.

Given that, JJ will be in Arb years, approaching FA. If he turns into stud, we can’t afford him. So we are limited on years on the team.

So isn’t it a fact we got 5 ish years to become competitive, build the core, and then compete, before his status is an issue.

We are young pitcher heavy now, and infielder heavy. We will saturate the outfield next. Then lock out.

Any thing here.

This could be a real problem. With that problem will continue to decline no matter what kind of "give a ways" they have. They will have to "catch" lightening in a bottle for things to improve over the next 3-5 years. And I will add, make TV viewing easier for the casual fan to keep interest alive.

[ScotchMIrish]

Ater the WS win it was 8 years before KC had a winning season.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Over night thought. Could the rebuild drag on for 3-5 more years. If not a rebuild, then a down turn.

Given that, JJ will be in Arb years, approaching FA. If he turns into stud, we can’t afford him. So we are limited on years on the team.

So isn’t it a fact we got 5 ish years to become competitive, build the core, and then compete, before his status is an issue.

We are young pitcher heavy now, and infielder heavy. We will saturate the outfield next. Then lock out.

Any thing here.

This could be a real problem. With that problem will continue to decline no matter what kind of "give a ways" they have. They will have to "catch" lightening in a bottle for things to improve over the next 3-5 years. And I will add, make TV viewing easier for the casual fan to keep interest alive.

It appears the core of Walker, Winn, Scott, Gorman, A catcher, plus JJ will be it moving forward.

Everytime one of the above doesn’t produce is a year lost. Soon it adds up.

[ramfandan]

Good morning.

Over night thought. Could the rebuild drag on for 3-5 more years. If not a rebuild, then a down turn.

Given that, JJ will be in Arb years, approaching FA. If he turns into stud, we can’t afford him. So we are limited on years on the team.

So isn’t it a fact we got 5 ish years to become competitive, build the core, and then compete, before his status is an issue.

We are young pitcher heavy now, and infielder heavy. We will saturate the outfield next. Then lock out.

Any thing here.

My take is that if JJ becomes a star player and face if the franchise, Bloom will do everything to sign him to long term deal at market price. When Isay long term , 7 years plus
Similar to what low payroll Brewers did when they locked up Christian Yelich many years back as he emerged a star player.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Over night thought. Could the rebuild drag on for 3-5 more years. If not a rebuild, then a down turn.

Given that, JJ will be in Arb years, approaching FA. If he turns into stud, we can’t afford him. So we are limited on years on the team.

So isn’t it a fact we got 5 ish years to become competitive, build the core, and then compete, before his status is an issue.

We are young pitcher heavy now, and infielder heavy. We will saturate the outfield next. Then lock out.

Any thing here.

My take is that if JJ becomes a star player and face if the franchise, Bloom will do everything to sign him to long term deal at market price. When Isay long term , 7 years plus
Similar to what low payroll Brewers did when they locked up Christian Yelich many years back as he emerged a star player.

Your scenario covers 7-8 years, plenty long enough for a rebuild to be effective and productive. This we enjoy the JJ years; however. If we don’t sign long term, does the initial scenario become more dire.

[ramfandan]

Good morning.

Over night thought. Could the rebuild drag on for 3-5 more years. If not a rebuild, then a down turn.

Given that, JJ will be in Arb years, approaching FA. If he turns into stud, we can’t afford him. So we are limited on years on the team.

So isn’t it a fact we got 5 ish years to become competitive, build the core, and then compete, before his status is an issue.

We are young pitcher heavy now, and infielder heavy. We will saturate the outfield next. Then lock out.

Any thing here.

My take is that if JJ becomes a star player and face if the franchise, Bloom will do everything to sign him to long term deal at market price. When Isay long term , 7 years plus
Similar to what low payroll Brewers did when they locked up Christian Yelich many years back as he emerged a star player.

Currently on Cardinals , it appears that Winn and JJ would be the two guys to pay big bucks to keep.. and surround them with good complimentary players. If they get a big home run guy thru the draft, that could be the 3rd .
Retaining an ace pitcher is much tougher as their salaries are super high.

[Whatashame]

JJ has almost nothing to do with this. There has to be changes to the current CBA to address competitive advantages with the larger market teams or the current lopsided system will take a stronger hold on MLB. IMO, this is the necessary change.

[HorseTrader]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next CBA cuts the the FA time down. Maybe to the point that they become free agents after 4 years.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Over night thought. Could the rebuild drag on for 3-5 more years. If not a rebuild, then a down turn.

Given that, JJ will be in Arb years, approaching FA. If he turns into stud, we can’t afford him. So we are limited on years on the team.

So isn’t it a fact we got 5 ish years to become competitive, build the core, and then compete, before his status is an issue.

We are young pitcher heavy now, and infielder heavy. We will saturate the outfield next. Then lock out.

Any thing here.

My take is that if JJ becomes a star player and face if the franchise, Bloom will do everything to sign him to long term deal at market price. When Isay long term , 7 years plus
Similar to what low payroll Brewers did when they locked up Christian Yelich many years back as he emerged a star player.

Currently on Cardinals , it appears that Winn and JJ would be the two guys to pay big bucks to keep.. and surround them with good complimentary players. If they get a big home run guy thru the draft, that could be the 3rd .
Retaining an ace pitcher is much tougher as their salaries are super high.

Nice written. Good note on starting pitchers salaries. Hence why we filled up with young arms.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next CBA cuts the the FA time down. Maybe to the point that they become free agents after 4 years.

That was a thought. Even less time to build.

[An Old Friend]

Should probably trade him now just in case.

[ramfandan]

Good morning.

Over night thought. Could the rebuild drag on for 3-5 more years. If not a rebuild, then a down turn.

Given that, JJ will be in Arb years, approaching FA. If he turns into stud, we can’t afford him. So we are limited on years on the team.

So isn’t it a fact we got 5 ish years to become competitive, build the core, and then compete, before his status is an issue.

We are young pitcher heavy now, and infielder heavy. We will saturate the outfield next. Then lock out.

Any thing here.

My take is that if JJ becomes a star player and face if the franchise, Bloom will do everything to sign him to long term deal at market price. When Isay long term , 7 years plus
Similar to what low payroll Brewers did when they locked up Christian Yelich many years back as he emerged a star player.

Your scenario covers 7-8 years, plenty long enough for a rebuild to be effective and productive. This we enjoy the JJ years; however. If we don’t sign long term, does the initial scenario become more dire.

Actually my scenario woul cover 10 years or so as my thinking was when he has emerged after hus first 3 seasons, then you are locking him up for 7 plus years after that.. again similar to Yelich

[ramfandan]

I wouldn't be surprised if the next CBA cuts the the FA time down. Maybe to the point that they become free agents after 4 years.

That was a thought. Even less time to build.

Owners agreeing to reduce free agency to 4 years would shock me big time . Getting them to give up 1 year to 5 years costs them multi- millions of dollars .
A one year concession to 5 would be major concession.

[Bully4you]

Good morning.

Over night thought. Could the rebuild drag on for 3-5 more years. If not a rebuild, then a down turn.

Given that, JJ will be in Arb years, approaching FA. If he turns into stud, we can’t afford him. So we are limited on years on the team.

So isn’t it a fact we got 5 ish years to become competitive, build the core, and then compete, before his status is an issue.

We are young pitcher heavy now, and infielder heavy. We will saturate the outfield next. Then lock out.

Any thing here.

Dude man.....
Excellent question.
I'd say likely to occur.
If it does, it's a major cluster [fork].
Great post and it should get a lot of activity.

[ecleme22]

Reminds me of that viral video of the kid post-dental appointment, in the backseat of a car, still drugged up on dental drugs. Feeling the affects of the drugs he says, "Will it be like this forever?"

Seeing that the Cards' rebuild is about 3.5 months in, it's a little embarrassing to suggest it will take 5 years.

What surprises me aren't the CTers against the rebuild, but rather the ones who don't understand it and have no idea what they are looking at.

The 2026 team could be better than 2025.

By 2027, IMO, they will start spending money.