How is the potential top five in the lineup shaping up?

[Shady]

Wetherholt, Burleson and Herrera are going to be in there. Who are the other two? Will either Walker or Gorman be consistent enough to hit at 5? It wouldn't surprise me, by the end of spring training, that Saggese fits in the top five somewhere. Let's face it, this isn't the Big Red Machine.

[Jatalk]

Wetherholt, Burleson and Herrera are going to be in there. Who are the other two? Will either Walker or Gorman be consistent enough to hit at 5? It wouldn't surprise me, by the end of spring training, that Saggese fits in the top five somewhere. Let's face it, this isn't the Big Red Machine.

It would be really nice if Scott could be in leadoff but doubtful.

[ramfandan]

It's early yet . I could see Wetherholt, Winn, Burly , Gorman to start things off .
Over the course of the season, the leadoff hitter (to no surprise ) gets more plate appearanced than any position in the batting order and then plate appearance numbers decline for each spot.
So you want the players who will have the highest batting averages near the very top. Unfortunaely , Scott has not displayed the hitting prowess in his past to warrant getting the most plate appearance .
Personally , I would like to see Scott remain at 9th for as the lineup proceeds during a game, when Scott comes up and he does get a walk /single ,he can then use his speed to steal 2nd and have the top of the lineup guys 1st, 2nd , and 3rd with a shot to drive him in.

[cardstatman]

Here are your choices...

2024-25 stats
.308 .422 .494 .916 Wetherholt 2B
.284 .400 .447 .847 Fermin LF
.295 .379 .459 .838 Herrera DH
.272 .368 .465 .833 Baez AAA
.259 .354 .463 .816 Velazquez DH/LF
.296 .313 .497 .810 Pozo C
.285 .359 .450 .809 Crooks AAA
.289 .339 .447 .786 Prieto AAA
.280 .329 .440 .769 Burleson 1B
.283 .345 .420 .765 Church LF
.255 .335 .401 .736 Bernal AA
.263 .322 .405 .727 Saggese AAA
.238 .333 .384 .717 Nootbar IL
.250 .305 .407 .712 Urias 3B
.261 .313 .396 .709 Winn SS
.205 .283 .401 .684 Gorman 3B
.229 .292 .365 .657 Walker RF
.232 .281 .372 .652 Pages C
.208 .288 .296 .584 Scott CF

So... the lineup... (Yeah, I know, not gonna happen!)
.308 .422 .494 .916 Wetherholt 2B
.330 .428 .439 .867 Torres CF
.295 .379 .459 .838 Herrera DH
.280 .329 .440 .769 Burleson 1B
.259 .354 .463 .816 Velazquez LF
.296 .313 .497 .810 Pozo C
.283 .345 .420 .765 Church RF
.250 .305 .407 .712 Urias 3B
.261 .313 .396 .709 Winn SS

Bench
.284 .400 .447 .847 Fermin UT/PH
.205 .283 .401 .684 Gorman 3B/1B/DH/PH
.232 .281 .372 .652 Pages C
.208 .288 .296 .584 Scott CF late inning defensive replacement for Velazquez

Minors
.272 .368 .465 .833 Baez AAA
.285 .359 .450 .809 Crooks AAA
.289 .339 .447 .786 Prieto AAA
.255 .335 .401 .736 Bernal AA
.263 .322 .405 .727 Saggese AAA
.229 .292 .365 .657 Walker AAA

[JohnnyMO]

You can add Winn to the for sure there group. Probably Gorman ad the other one

[Cardinals4Life]

Lots of options.

Id like to see Herrera 3 and Burleson 4.

Still a lot to figure out with the 1 and 2 spots.
Oli will want Winn in there.
JJ fits well at 1 for 2.
Torres is your prototypical LO hitter, but will he get a shot?

I think this might be best:

Torres 7
Wetherholt 4
Herrera 2
Burleson 3
Saggese DH
Winn 6
Gorman 5
Walker 9
Scott II 8

And then Church could be a 1-2 type too.
So, lots to figure out still!

[Swuhgen]

Wetherholt, Burleson and Herrera are going to be in there. Who are the other two? Will either Walker or Gorman be consistent enough to hit at 5? It wouldn't surprise me, by the end of spring training, that Saggese fits in the top five somewhere. Let's face it, this isn't the Big Red Machine.

Ever heard of Winn?
He will be leading off.

[Cranny]

Ideally, 2 of 3 of Scott, Winn, and Torres.

[rockondlouie]

Noot
JJW
Hererra
Burly
Gorman

[Cranny]

Noot
JJW
Hererra
Burly
Gorman

I wouldn’t count on Noot for much of anything - because of
both injuries and over rated productivity.

[rockondlouie]

Noot
JJW
Hererra
Burly
Gorman

I wouldn’t count on Noot for much of anything - because of
both injuries and over rated productivity.

Not only can we count on it he is the best OFer on this team and could likely be even better after finally having his heels treated.

I'd hardly say a 2022-2024 slash line of .351 OB%/.426 sg%/.777 OPS is "overrated".

Best OF'er on the team for years and it's not even close.

[dugoutrex]

Noot
JJW
Hererra
Burly
Gorman

I wouldn’t count on Noot for much of anything - because of
both injuries and over rated productivity.

Not only can we count on it he is the best OFer on this team and could likely be even better after finally having his heels treated.

I'd hardly say a 2022-2024 slash line of .351 OB%/.426 sg%/.777 OPS is "overrated".

Best OF'er on the team for years and it's not even close.

yup - Noot is definitely our best outfielder by a rather large margin