If Marmol is that bad…..

[Banner29]

No one will give names. They’ll play the I’m not the POBO card, yet they take no issue with calling for firings. They don’t see the irony.
A. There is no manager worth anything that is taking the job with the cardinals in their current state
B. Oli isn’t nearly as bad as some think. They see bad record and have no choice but to say bad manager
C. No manager of the ‘23-‘25 rosters get the cardinals in the playoffs
D. The last two seasons, the cardinals have won more games than their statistics indicate they should have won. Hmmm
E. The overwhelming majority of the time, a bad roster equals bad results, regardless of the manager.

Pujols, Molina, Varitek, and even Joe Maddon are names on here that have been discussed EXTENSIVELY as replacements for the little Oompa Loompa. Schumakers name was brought up nearly every day before he got the job in Texas. Those are just a few guys to plenty of names posters have brought up.

The 3 of you are either oblivious to what goes on around here or just being purposely ignorant to it to better suit an agenda

What qualifies Pujols and Molina to be managers? I would love to see Molina as the manager. I think he will be the next manager. But, what do we have to go off of that he would be a good manager? How many more games would Molina win over Marmol?

Joe Madden was horrible with the Angels. So that proves that not even somebody considered to be a great manager is going to make a bad team good.

What has Jason Varitek done?

In the case of Yadi and Pujols tell me everytime you can remember the 2 combined in their entire careers where they made an unintelligent head scratching baseball decision on the field and I will bet you wouldn’t even be able to get all your fingers up on one hand

Aside from being elite repents they were also absurdly intelligent and just new the game in and out.

I’m not saying that transpires into being a good manager. After all Matheny was a smart baseball player too and we saw how that turned out. But I genuinely believe the people against it are just looking at it as “you guys just want them because they are Cardinal legends” and not taking into count that the 2 knew the game perhaps better than any player we have ever seen

That’s not a bad quality to have in a manager, which is a tough sell for those that only believe managers should manage from their iPad anymore

Shoeless Joe knew the game and by all accounts he was an idiot.
To answer your question. Pujols made a baseball mistake everytime he ran the bases. He touched the bags with his left foot making the path around the bases longer. I learned that in little league.

Pujols was a great base runner. Seldom out on the bases and took extra ones often. Nobody cares what you did in Little League.

lol +1

Nobody cares what the proper way to run the bases is?

I’ve seen multiple videos where he touches with his right foot

And I have watched multiple videos of him, touching it with his left. So he’s perfect some of the time.

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

[Cardinals1964]

Pujols, Molina, Varitek, and even Joe Maddon are names on here that have been discussed EXTENSIVELY as replacements for the little Oompa Loompa. Schumakers name was brought up nearly every day before he got the job in Texas. Those are just a few guys to plenty of names posters have brought up.

The 3 of you are either oblivious to what goes on around here or just being purposely ignorant to it to better suit an agenda

What qualifies Pujols and Molina to be managers? I would love to see Molina as the manager. I think he will be the next manager. But, what do we have to go off of that he would be a good manager? How many more games would Molina win over Marmol?

Joe Madden was horrible with the Angels. So that proves that not even somebody considered to be a great manager is going to make a bad team good.

What has Jason Varitek done?

In the case of Yadi and Pujols tell me everytime you can remember the 2 combined in their entire careers where they made an unintelligent head scratching baseball decision on the field and I will bet you wouldn’t even be able to get all your fingers up on one hand

Aside from being elite repents they were also absurdly intelligent and just new the game in and out.

I’m not saying that transpires into being a good manager. After all Matheny was a smart baseball player too and we saw how that turned out. But I genuinely believe the people against it are just looking at it as “you guys just want them because they are Cardinal legends” and not taking into count that the 2 knew the game perhaps better than any player we have ever seen

That’s not a bad quality to have in a manager, which is a tough sell for those that only believe managers should manage from their iPad anymore

Shoeless Joe knew the game and by all accounts he was an idiot.
To answer your question. Pujols made a baseball mistake everytime he ran the bases. He touched the bags with his left foot making the path around the bases longer. I learned that in little league.

Pujols was a great base runner. Seldom out on the bases and took extra ones often. Nobody cares what you did in Little League.

lol +1

Nobody cares what the proper way to run the bases is?

I’ve seen multiple videos where he touches with his right foot

And I have watched multiple videos of him, touching it with his left. So he’s perfect some of the time.

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

[Banner29]

What qualifies Pujols and Molina to be managers? I would love to see Molina as the manager. I think he will be the next manager. But, what do we have to go off of that he would be a good manager? How many more games would Molina win over Marmol?

Joe Madden was horrible with the Angels. So that proves that not even somebody considered to be a great manager is going to make a bad team good.

What has Jason Varitek done?

In the case of Yadi and Pujols tell me everytime you can remember the 2 combined in their entire careers where they made an unintelligent head scratching baseball decision on the field and I will bet you wouldn’t even be able to get all your fingers up on one hand

Aside from being elite repents they were also absurdly intelligent and just new the game in and out.

I’m not saying that transpires into being a good manager. After all Matheny was a smart baseball player too and we saw how that turned out. But I genuinely believe the people against it are just looking at it as “you guys just want them because they are Cardinal legends” and not taking into count that the 2 knew the game perhaps better than any player we have ever seen

That’s not a bad quality to have in a manager, which is a tough sell for those that only believe managers should manage from their iPad anymore

Shoeless Joe knew the game and by all accounts he was an idiot.
To answer your question. Pujols made a baseball mistake everytime he ran the bases. He touched the bags with his left foot making the path around the bases longer. I learned that in little league.

Pujols was a great base runner. Seldom out on the bases and took extra ones often. Nobody cares what you did in Little League.

lol +1

Nobody cares what the proper way to run the bases is?

I’ve seen multiple videos where he touches with his right foot

And I have watched multiple videos of him, touching it with his left. So he’s perfect some of the time.

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

[Cardinals1964]

In the case of Yadi and Pujols tell me everytime you can remember the 2 combined in their entire careers where they made an unintelligent head scratching baseball decision on the field and I will bet you wouldn’t even be able to get all your fingers up on one hand

Aside from being elite repents they were also absurdly intelligent and just new the game in and out.

I’m not saying that transpires into being a good manager. After all Matheny was a smart baseball player too and we saw how that turned out. But I genuinely believe the people against it are just looking at it as “you guys just want them because they are Cardinal legends” and not taking into count that the 2 knew the game perhaps better than any player we have ever seen

That’s not a bad quality to have in a manager, which is a tough sell for those that only believe managers should manage from their iPad anymore

Shoeless Joe knew the game and by all accounts he was an idiot.
To answer your question. Pujols made a baseball mistake everytime he ran the bases. He touched the bags with his left foot making the path around the bases longer. I learned that in little league.

Pujols was a great base runner. Seldom out on the bases and took extra ones often. Nobody cares what you did in Little League.

lol +1

Nobody cares what the proper way to run the bases is?

I’ve seen multiple videos where he touches with his right foot

And I have watched multiple videos of him, touching it with his left. So he’s perfect some of the time.

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

[Banner29]

Shoeless Joe knew the game and by all accounts he was an idiot.
To answer your question. Pujols made a baseball mistake everytime he ran the bases. He touched the bags with his left foot making the path around the bases longer. I learned that in little league.

Pujols was a great base runner. Seldom out on the bases and took extra ones often. Nobody cares what you did in Little League.

lol +1

Nobody cares what the proper way to run the bases is?

I’ve seen multiple videos where he touches with his right foot

And I have watched multiple videos of him, touching it with his left. So he’s perfect some of the time.

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

[Cardinals1964]

Pujols was a great base runner. Seldom out on the bases and took extra ones often. Nobody cares what you did in Little League.

lol +1

Nobody cares what the proper way to run the bases is?

I’ve seen multiple videos where he touches with his right foot

And I have watched multiple videos of him, touching it with his left. So he’s perfect some of the time.

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

But how do you know your selections would be good. Prove it. Being stuck on what I said about running the bases that I learned in Little League, obviously upset you. Never mind it’s like saying, I learned that in kindergarten.
It doesn’t really matter when you learn something. If you learn the ABCs in preschool, does that make the ABCs wrong?
You’re stuck on the irrelevant point.
Prove that a different manager would’ve won more games last year than Marmol.
Genius CT poster like yourself should be able to explain why you are smarter than Marmol that spends his entire waking hours thinking about baseball. You don’t think he learned anything at all?

I think it’s more of a case that you need a friend.

I’m pretty sure most people won’t be able to have a conversation with you. Because you have your opinion, if somebody doesn’t like it, they’re automatically an idiot. I’ve read some of your threads. You throw a tantrum. You sound angry.
Just admit that there is no way to prove any other manager would have won more games than a different manager. That’s the point. You don’t know. You don’t know any more than the next guy. You have no way to prove it. Your argument is stupid. That’s why people ask. How do you know? Because there is no way of knowing. Your selections could be worse. I have no way to know. So I don’t say that they will be worse.
We can’t have a conversation because you disagree with me, boo-hoo baby.

Now make sure you check my grammar and spelling, so you have something to respond to other than the topic. Idiot.

[Banner29]

lol +1

Nobody cares what the proper way to run the bases is?

I’ve seen multiple videos where he touches with his right foot

And I have watched multiple videos of him, touching it with his left. So he’s perfect some of the time.

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

But how do you know your selections would be good. Prove it. Being stuck on what I said about running the bases that I learned in Little League, obviously upset you. Never mind it’s like saying, I learned that in kindergarten.
It doesn’t really matter when you learn something. If you learn the ABCs in preschool, does that make the ABCs wrong?
You’re stuck on the irrelevant point.
Prove that a different manager would’ve won more games last year than Marmol.
Genius CT poster like yourself should be able to explain why you are smarter than Marmol that spends his entire waking hours thinking about baseball. You don’t think he learned anything at all?

I think it’s more of a case that you need a friend.

I’m pretty sure most people won’t be able to have a conversation with you. Because you have your opinion, if somebody doesn’t like it, they’re automatically an idiot. I’ve read some of your threads. You throw a tantrum. You sound angry.
Just admit that there is no way to prove any other manager would have won more games than a different manager. That’s the point. You don’t know. You don’t know any more than the next guy. You have no way to prove it. Your argument is stupid. That’s why people ask. How do you know? Because there is no way of knowing. Your selections could be worse. I have no way to know. So I don’t say that they will be worse.
We can’t have a conversation because you disagree with me, boo-hoo baby.

Now make sure you check my grammar and spelling, so you have something to respond to other than the topic. Idiot.

I literally said that Molina and Pujols ELITE baseball knowledge may not transpire to managing……..

I also never said anything about them being “my selections.” Only that they have been mentioned many times by posters on here. The fact that I made an argument for them based on their baseball smarts does not change that……

I also never called anyone an idiot……you did…..


I also never corrected your grammar


Also prove that I have thrown a tantrum……


You’re unstable

I can make a pretty safe assumption that they would be better than Oli but as of right now that’s all it is, an assumption. Much like saying that Pat Murphy on the Cardinals would be better than Oli, it’s a safe bet but still an assumption. But your logic is so dumb. Because the fact of the matter is Oli is not cutting it. And change will eventually be needed. And hanging your hat on “you can’t prove who could be better” is like keeping Miles Mikolas around because after all……”you can’t prove who will be better than him”

So first things first. Work on your reading comprehension. Second, when you’re done pouting that nobody likes Oli and are ready to talk like a big boy come back to me and then maybe something constructive can happen here

[Cardinals1964]

Nobody cares what the proper way to run the bases is?

I’ve seen multiple videos where he touches with his right foot

And I have watched multiple videos of him, touching it with his left. So he’s perfect some of the time.

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

But how do you know your selections would be good. Prove it. Being stuck on what I said about running the bases that I learned in Little League, obviously upset you. Never mind it’s like saying, I learned that in kindergarten.
It doesn’t really matter when you learn something. If you learn the ABCs in preschool, does that make the ABCs wrong?
You’re stuck on the irrelevant point.
Prove that a different manager would’ve won more games last year than Marmol.
Genius CT poster like yourself should be able to explain why you are smarter than Marmol that spends his entire waking hours thinking about baseball. You don’t think he learned anything at all?

I think it’s more of a case that you need a friend.

I’m pretty sure most people won’t be able to have a conversation with you. Because you have your opinion, if somebody doesn’t like it, they’re automatically an idiot. I’ve read some of your threads. You throw a tantrum. You sound angry.
Just admit that there is no way to prove any other manager would have won more games than a different manager. That’s the point. You don’t know. You don’t know any more than the next guy. You have no way to prove it. Your argument is stupid. That’s why people ask. How do you know? Because there is no way of knowing. Your selections could be worse. I have no way to know. So I don’t say that they will be worse.
We can’t have a conversation because you disagree with me, boo-hoo baby.

Now make sure you check my grammar and spelling, so you have something to respond to other than the topic. Idiot.

I literally said that Molina and Pujols ELITE baseball knowledge may not transpire to managing……..

I also never said anything about them being “my selections.” Only that they have been mentioned many times by posters on here. The fact that I made an argument for them based on their baseball smarts does not change that……

I also never called anyone an idiot……you did…..


I also never corrected your grammar


Also prove that I have thrown a tantrum……


You’re unstable

I can make a pretty safe assumption that they would be better than Oli but as of right now that’s all it is, an assumption. Much like saying that Pat Murphy on the Cardinals would be better than Oli, it’s a safe bet but still an assumption. But your logic is so dumb. Because the fact of the matter is Oli is not cutting it. And change will eventually be needed. And hanging your hat on “you can’t prove who could be better” is like keeping Miles Mikolas around because after all……”you can’t prove who will be better than him”

So first things first. Work on your reading comprehension. Second, when you’re done pouting that nobody likes Oli and are ready to talk like a big boy come back to me and then maybe something constructive can happen here

Thanks for admitting you don’t know.
There’s nothing constructive that could come from an opinion based forum. Nobody in a position of power is reading CT and making baseball decisions from them.

[Banner29]

I’ve seen multiple videos where he touches with his right foot

And I have watched multiple videos of him, touching it with his left. So he’s perfect some of the time.

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

But how do you know your selections would be good. Prove it. Being stuck on what I said about running the bases that I learned in Little League, obviously upset you. Never mind it’s like saying, I learned that in kindergarten.
It doesn’t really matter when you learn something. If you learn the ABCs in preschool, does that make the ABCs wrong?
You’re stuck on the irrelevant point.
Prove that a different manager would’ve won more games last year than Marmol.
Genius CT poster like yourself should be able to explain why you are smarter than Marmol that spends his entire waking hours thinking about baseball. You don’t think he learned anything at all?

I think it’s more of a case that you need a friend.

I’m pretty sure most people won’t be able to have a conversation with you. Because you have your opinion, if somebody doesn’t like it, they’re automatically an idiot. I’ve read some of your threads. You throw a tantrum. You sound angry.
Just admit that there is no way to prove any other manager would have won more games than a different manager. That’s the point. You don’t know. You don’t know any more than the next guy. You have no way to prove it. Your argument is stupid. That’s why people ask. How do you know? Because there is no way of knowing. Your selections could be worse. I have no way to know. So I don’t say that they will be worse.
We can’t have a conversation because you disagree with me, boo-hoo baby.

Now make sure you check my grammar and spelling, so you have something to respond to other than the topic. Idiot.

I literally said that Molina and Pujols ELITE baseball knowledge may not transpire to managing……..

I also never said anything about them being “my selections.” Only that they have been mentioned many times by posters on here. The fact that I made an argument for them based on their baseball smarts does not change that……

I also never called anyone an idiot……you did…..


I also never corrected your grammar


Also prove that I have thrown a tantrum……


You’re unstable

I can make a pretty safe assumption that they would be better than Oli but as of right now that’s all it is, an assumption. Much like saying that Pat Murphy on the Cardinals would be better than Oli, it’s a safe bet but still an assumption. But your logic is so dumb. Because the fact of the matter is Oli is not cutting it. And change will eventually be needed. And hanging your hat on “you can’t prove who could be better” is like keeping Miles Mikolas around because after all……”you can’t prove who will be better than him”

So first things first. Work on your reading comprehension. Second, when you’re done pouting that nobody likes Oli and are ready to talk like a big boy come back to me and then maybe something constructive can happen here

Thanks for admitting you don’t know.
There’s nothing constructive that could come from an opinion based forum. Nobody in a position of power is reading CT and making baseball decisions from them.

Not true at all. Plenty of constructive conversation can happen. Just because you’re incapable of it doesn’t mean others aren’t. Glad we cleared that up

Now go work on your reading comprehension.

[Cardinals1964]

And I have watched multiple videos of him, touching it with his left. So he’s perfect some of the time.

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

But how do you know your selections would be good. Prove it. Being stuck on what I said about running the bases that I learned in Little League, obviously upset you. Never mind it’s like saying, I learned that in kindergarten.
It doesn’t really matter when you learn something. If you learn the ABCs in preschool, does that make the ABCs wrong?
You’re stuck on the irrelevant point.
Prove that a different manager would’ve won more games last year than Marmol.
Genius CT poster like yourself should be able to explain why you are smarter than Marmol that spends his entire waking hours thinking about baseball. You don’t think he learned anything at all?

I think it’s more of a case that you need a friend.

I’m pretty sure most people won’t be able to have a conversation with you. Because you have your opinion, if somebody doesn’t like it, they’re automatically an idiot. I’ve read some of your threads. You throw a tantrum. You sound angry.
Just admit that there is no way to prove any other manager would have won more games than a different manager. That’s the point. You don’t know. You don’t know any more than the next guy. You have no way to prove it. Your argument is stupid. That’s why people ask. How do you know? Because there is no way of knowing. Your selections could be worse. I have no way to know. So I don’t say that they will be worse.
We can’t have a conversation because you disagree with me, boo-hoo baby.

Now make sure you check my grammar and spelling, so you have something to respond to other than the topic. Idiot.

I literally said that Molina and Pujols ELITE baseball knowledge may not transpire to managing……..

I also never said anything about them being “my selections.” Only that they have been mentioned many times by posters on here. The fact that I made an argument for them based on their baseball smarts does not change that……

I also never called anyone an idiot……you did…..


I also never corrected your grammar


Also prove that I have thrown a tantrum……


You’re unstable

I can make a pretty safe assumption that they would be better than Oli but as of right now that’s all it is, an assumption. Much like saying that Pat Murphy on the Cardinals would be better than Oli, it’s a safe bet but still an assumption. But your logic is so dumb. Because the fact of the matter is Oli is not cutting it. And change will eventually be needed. And hanging your hat on “you can’t prove who could be better” is like keeping Miles Mikolas around because after all……”you can’t prove who will be better than him”

So first things first. Work on your reading comprehension. Second, when you’re done pouting that nobody likes Oli and are ready to talk like a big boy come back to me and then maybe something constructive can happen here

Thanks for admitting you don’t know.
There’s nothing constructive that could come from an opinion based forum. Nobody in a position of power is reading CT and making baseball decisions from them.

Not true at all. Plenty of constructive conversation can happen. Just because you’re incapable of it doesn’t mean others aren’t. Glad we cleared that up

Now go work on your reading comprehension.

That’s a very constructive post. I’ll forward it to Bloom. It should help in the standings. Idiot.

[Banner29]

But you said he did it wrong every time he ran the bases.

So since you can’t even get your accusations straight we can go ahead and throw out your little league experience and comfortably say you don’t know what you’re talking about

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

But how do you know your selections would be good. Prove it. Being stuck on what I said about running the bases that I learned in Little League, obviously upset you. Never mind it’s like saying, I learned that in kindergarten.
It doesn’t really matter when you learn something. If you learn the ABCs in preschool, does that make the ABCs wrong?
You’re stuck on the irrelevant point.
Prove that a different manager would’ve won more games last year than Marmol.
Genius CT poster like yourself should be able to explain why you are smarter than Marmol that spends his entire waking hours thinking about baseball. You don’t think he learned anything at all?

I think it’s more of a case that you need a friend.

I’m pretty sure most people won’t be able to have a conversation with you. Because you have your opinion, if somebody doesn’t like it, they’re automatically an idiot. I’ve read some of your threads. You throw a tantrum. You sound angry.
Just admit that there is no way to prove any other manager would have won more games than a different manager. That’s the point. You don’t know. You don’t know any more than the next guy. You have no way to prove it. Your argument is stupid. That’s why people ask. How do you know? Because there is no way of knowing. Your selections could be worse. I have no way to know. So I don’t say that they will be worse.
We can’t have a conversation because you disagree with me, boo-hoo baby.

Now make sure you check my grammar and spelling, so you have something to respond to other than the topic. Idiot.

I literally said that Molina and Pujols ELITE baseball knowledge may not transpire to managing……..

I also never said anything about them being “my selections.” Only that they have been mentioned many times by posters on here. The fact that I made an argument for them based on their baseball smarts does not change that……

I also never called anyone an idiot……you did…..


I also never corrected your grammar


Also prove that I have thrown a tantrum……


You’re unstable

I can make a pretty safe assumption that they would be better than Oli but as of right now that’s all it is, an assumption. Much like saying that Pat Murphy on the Cardinals would be better than Oli, it’s a safe bet but still an assumption. But your logic is so dumb. Because the fact of the matter is Oli is not cutting it. And change will eventually be needed. And hanging your hat on “you can’t prove who could be better” is like keeping Miles Mikolas around because after all……”you can’t prove who will be better than him”

So first things first. Work on your reading comprehension. Second, when you’re done pouting that nobody likes Oli and are ready to talk like a big boy come back to me and then maybe something constructive can happen here

Thanks for admitting you don’t know.
There’s nothing constructive that could come from an opinion based forum. Nobody in a position of power is reading CT and making baseball decisions from them.

Not true at all. Plenty of constructive conversation can happen. Just because you’re incapable of it doesn’t mean others aren’t. Glad we cleared that up

Now go work on your reading comprehension.

That’s a very constructive post. I’ll forward it to Bloom. It should help in the standings. Idiot.

I love how after accusing me of calling people idiots you’ve since called me it twice.

Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself or is it just a matter of not being able to help it?

[Cardinals1964]

You said he never made a mistake.

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

But how do you know your selections would be good. Prove it. Being stuck on what I said about running the bases that I learned in Little League, obviously upset you. Never mind it’s like saying, I learned that in kindergarten.
It doesn’t really matter when you learn something. If you learn the ABCs in preschool, does that make the ABCs wrong?
You’re stuck on the irrelevant point.
Prove that a different manager would’ve won more games last year than Marmol.
Genius CT poster like yourself should be able to explain why you are smarter than Marmol that spends his entire waking hours thinking about baseball. You don’t think he learned anything at all?

I think it’s more of a case that you need a friend.

I’m pretty sure most people won’t be able to have a conversation with you. Because you have your opinion, if somebody doesn’t like it, they’re automatically an idiot. I’ve read some of your threads. You throw a tantrum. You sound angry.
Just admit that there is no way to prove any other manager would have won more games than a different manager. That’s the point. You don’t know. You don’t know any more than the next guy. You have no way to prove it. Your argument is stupid. That’s why people ask. How do you know? Because there is no way of knowing. Your selections could be worse. I have no way to know. So I don’t say that they will be worse.
We can’t have a conversation because you disagree with me, boo-hoo baby.

Now make sure you check my grammar and spelling, so you have something to respond to other than the topic. Idiot.

I literally said that Molina and Pujols ELITE baseball knowledge may not transpire to managing……..

I also never said anything about them being “my selections.” Only that they have been mentioned many times by posters on here. The fact that I made an argument for them based on their baseball smarts does not change that……

I also never called anyone an idiot……you did…..


I also never corrected your grammar


Also prove that I have thrown a tantrum……


You’re unstable

I can make a pretty safe assumption that they would be better than Oli but as of right now that’s all it is, an assumption. Much like saying that Pat Murphy on the Cardinals would be better than Oli, it’s a safe bet but still an assumption. But your logic is so dumb. Because the fact of the matter is Oli is not cutting it. And change will eventually be needed. And hanging your hat on “you can’t prove who could be better” is like keeping Miles Mikolas around because after all……”you can’t prove who will be better than him”

So first things first. Work on your reading comprehension. Second, when you’re done pouting that nobody likes Oli and are ready to talk like a big boy come back to me and then maybe something constructive can happen here

Thanks for admitting you don’t know.
There’s nothing constructive that could come from an opinion based forum. Nobody in a position of power is reading CT and making baseball decisions from them.

Not true at all. Plenty of constructive conversation can happen. Just because you’re incapable of it doesn’t mean others aren’t. Glad we cleared that up

Now go work on your reading comprehension.

That’s a very constructive post. I’ll forward it to Bloom. It should help in the standings. Idiot.

I love how after accusing me of calling people idiots you’ve since called me it twice.

Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself or is it just a matter of not being able to help it?

And how are comments like “learn to read” and get some comprehension” not the same thing? Keep arguing how something is said and not what is said.
And thank you once again for admitting you don’t know what manager would do what. That was the discussion. So thank you, normally people won’t admit they were wrong.
Genius.

[Banner29]

I said you wouldn’t be able to count very many. And you gave one answer that really isn’t even that good of one. One that you’re already backtracking at the extent at which he did it. One that your little league coach taught you, which I’m assuming was 40 years ago if you were born in 1964

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

But how do you know your selections would be good. Prove it. Being stuck on what I said about running the bases that I learned in Little League, obviously upset you. Never mind it’s like saying, I learned that in kindergarten.
It doesn’t really matter when you learn something. If you learn the ABCs in preschool, does that make the ABCs wrong?
You’re stuck on the irrelevant point.
Prove that a different manager would’ve won more games last year than Marmol.
Genius CT poster like yourself should be able to explain why you are smarter than Marmol that spends his entire waking hours thinking about baseball. You don’t think he learned anything at all?

I think it’s more of a case that you need a friend.

I’m pretty sure most people won’t be able to have a conversation with you. Because you have your opinion, if somebody doesn’t like it, they’re automatically an idiot. I’ve read some of your threads. You throw a tantrum. You sound angry.
Just admit that there is no way to prove any other manager would have won more games than a different manager. That’s the point. You don’t know. You don’t know any more than the next guy. You have no way to prove it. Your argument is stupid. That’s why people ask. How do you know? Because there is no way of knowing. Your selections could be worse. I have no way to know. So I don’t say that they will be worse.
We can’t have a conversation because you disagree with me, boo-hoo baby.

Now make sure you check my grammar and spelling, so you have something to respond to other than the topic. Idiot.

I literally said that Molina and Pujols ELITE baseball knowledge may not transpire to managing……..

I also never said anything about them being “my selections.” Only that they have been mentioned many times by posters on here. The fact that I made an argument for them based on their baseball smarts does not change that……

I also never called anyone an idiot……you did…..


I also never corrected your grammar


Also prove that I have thrown a tantrum……


You’re unstable

I can make a pretty safe assumption that they would be better than Oli but as of right now that’s all it is, an assumption. Much like saying that Pat Murphy on the Cardinals would be better than Oli, it’s a safe bet but still an assumption. But your logic is so dumb. Because the fact of the matter is Oli is not cutting it. And change will eventually be needed. And hanging your hat on “you can’t prove who could be better” is like keeping Miles Mikolas around because after all……”you can’t prove who will be better than him”

So first things first. Work on your reading comprehension. Second, when you’re done pouting that nobody likes Oli and are ready to talk like a big boy come back to me and then maybe something constructive can happen here

Thanks for admitting you don’t know.
There’s nothing constructive that could come from an opinion based forum. Nobody in a position of power is reading CT and making baseball decisions from them.

Not true at all. Plenty of constructive conversation can happen. Just because you’re incapable of it doesn’t mean others aren’t. Glad we cleared that up

Now go work on your reading comprehension.

That’s a very constructive post. I’ll forward it to Bloom. It should help in the standings. Idiot.

I love how after accusing me of calling people idiots you’ve since called me it twice.

Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself or is it just a matter of not being able to help it?

And how are comments like “learn to read” and get some comprehension” not the same thing? Keep arguing how something is said and not what is said.
And thank you once again for admitting you don’t know what manager would do what. That was the discussion. So thank you, normally people won’t admit they were wrong.
Genius.

I hurt your feelings because I pointed out your lack of basic reading comprehension and that’s me calling you an idiot? Which makes you compelled to call me that multiple times?


How could I be wrong about something we literally do not know about? There’s nothing definitive one way or another


You’re not wrong, I’m not wrong, nobody is wrong. And nobody will be wrong or right until someone other than Oli is managing. And until that happens this is all just nothing but debate. But you’re the only one here flocking your feathers as if you are right despite not making one compelling argument .

You really are unstable(I’m dead serious)……

[Cardinals1964]

Clearly, you never played baseball and don’t know how to run the bases.

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

But how do you know your selections would be good. Prove it. Being stuck on what I said about running the bases that I learned in Little League, obviously upset you. Never mind it’s like saying, I learned that in kindergarten.
It doesn’t really matter when you learn something. If you learn the ABCs in preschool, does that make the ABCs wrong?
You’re stuck on the irrelevant point.
Prove that a different manager would’ve won more games last year than Marmol.
Genius CT poster like yourself should be able to explain why you are smarter than Marmol that spends his entire waking hours thinking about baseball. You don’t think he learned anything at all?

I think it’s more of a case that you need a friend.

I’m pretty sure most people won’t be able to have a conversation with you. Because you have your opinion, if somebody doesn’t like it, they’re automatically an idiot. I’ve read some of your threads. You throw a tantrum. You sound angry.
Just admit that there is no way to prove any other manager would have won more games than a different manager. That’s the point. You don’t know. You don’t know any more than the next guy. You have no way to prove it. Your argument is stupid. That’s why people ask. How do you know? Because there is no way of knowing. Your selections could be worse. I have no way to know. So I don’t say that they will be worse.
We can’t have a conversation because you disagree with me, boo-hoo baby.

Now make sure you check my grammar and spelling, so you have something to respond to other than the topic. Idiot.

I literally said that Molina and Pujols ELITE baseball knowledge may not transpire to managing……..

I also never said anything about them being “my selections.” Only that they have been mentioned many times by posters on here. The fact that I made an argument for them based on their baseball smarts does not change that……

I also never called anyone an idiot……you did…..


I also never corrected your grammar


Also prove that I have thrown a tantrum……


You’re unstable

I can make a pretty safe assumption that they would be better than Oli but as of right now that’s all it is, an assumption. Much like saying that Pat Murphy on the Cardinals would be better than Oli, it’s a safe bet but still an assumption. But your logic is so dumb. Because the fact of the matter is Oli is not cutting it. And change will eventually be needed. And hanging your hat on “you can’t prove who could be better” is like keeping Miles Mikolas around because after all……”you can’t prove who will be better than him”

So first things first. Work on your reading comprehension. Second, when you’re done pouting that nobody likes Oli and are ready to talk like a big boy come back to me and then maybe something constructive can happen here

Thanks for admitting you don’t know.
There’s nothing constructive that could come from an opinion based forum. Nobody in a position of power is reading CT and making baseball decisions from them.

Not true at all. Plenty of constructive conversation can happen. Just because you’re incapable of it doesn’t mean others aren’t. Glad we cleared that up

Now go work on your reading comprehension.

That’s a very constructive post. I’ll forward it to Bloom. It should help in the standings. Idiot.

I love how after accusing me of calling people idiots you’ve since called me it twice.

Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself or is it just a matter of not being able to help it?

And how are comments like “learn to read” and get some comprehension” not the same thing? Keep arguing how something is said and not what is said.
And thank you once again for admitting you don’t know what manager would do what. That was the discussion. So thank you, normally people won’t admit they were wrong.
Genius.

I hurt your feelings because I pointed out your lack of basic reading comprehension and that’s me calling you an idiot? Which makes you compelled to call me that multiple times?


How could I be wrong about something we literally do not know about? There’s nothing definitive one way or another


You’re not wrong, I’m not wrong, nobody is wrong. And nobody will be wrong or right until someone other than Oli is managing. And until that happens this is all just nothing but debate. But you’re the only one here flocking your feathers as if you are right despite not making one compelling argument .

You really are unstable(I’m dead serious)……

I have no feelings about someone posting in forums. I don’t care.

I’m not wrong because I never said that somebody else could do a better job that has no track record. Even if they did have a track record, I couldn’t predict that they’re gonna do a better job.

And yeah, you are 100% wrong for claiming somebody could do a better job. Because you don’t know.

Now show me how smart you are and argue the order of the words I used.

Are your little smiley faces supposed to cover up your hostility?

Was you saying I’m unstable supposed to be constructive conversation and a compliment?

Idiot.

[Goldfan]

For those that think Marmol is that bad. That Marmol is the difference between a 70-92 team and a 92-70 team, who would you like him replaced with? Names. We need names.

That's been the longstanding issue on CT. Some want Oli dumped but never have a short list of replacements . When someone is considered, that manager would look at the 2026 roster and say Wow ! Am I going to turn things around with those kids playing ? I might be in a retirement home by that time.

I don’t disagree. I would just like those that don’t like Oliver to tell me who they would like and how many games that manager would make a difference in the standings.
I don’t love Oliver and I don’t hate him. I don’t think the manager makes that much difference. LaRussa had some horrible seasons. Should he have been replaced?
This also applies to players like Nolan Gorman. You don’t like them, who should take his place? People hate Walker, who should take his place?

No one will give names. They’ll play the I’m not the POBO card, yet they take no issue with calling for firings. They don’t see the irony.
A. There is no manager worth anything that is taking the job with the cardinals in their current state
B. Oli isn’t nearly as bad as some think. They see bad record and have no choice but to say bad manager
C. No manager of the ‘23-‘25 rosters get the cardinals in the playoffs
D. The last two seasons, the cardinals have won more games than their statistics indicate they should have won. Hmmm
E. The overwhelming majority of the time, a bad roster equals bad results, regardless of the manager.

Pujols, Molina, Varitek, and even Joe Maddon are names on here that have been discussed EXTENSIVELY as replacements for the little Oompa Loompa. Schumakers name was brought up nearly every day before he got the job in Texas. Those are just a few guys to plenty of names posters have brought up.

The 3 of you are either oblivious to what goes on around here or just being purposely ignorant to it to better suit an agenda

Oh, Pujols and Molina. There is literally no evidence those guys would be better. If you want the change b/c they're a name that will draw interest from the fanbase, then fine.

Why would Varitek be better? Maybe he would be, but he's the "Player Information Coach" or "Game Planning Coordinator" with the Red Sox. By what measure would you base an argument that he would be a successful Manager? What are his coaching accomplishments that make you want him? And Joe Maddon? He's 72 and let a potential dynasty with the Cubs die on his watch, after 2016. He hasn't been a successful Manager for almost a decade. This cannot be a serious recommendation.

Seems to me that people are throwing nonsense at the wall.

I'd be fine with Pujols or Yadi, but by no means would I assume they would magically be better at managing games or the team as a whole. It would certainly be intriguing, and having one of their names in every Cardinals article and constantly talked about on local radio would be a boost to fan interest. A move like that certainly wouldn't have any basis in actual managerial skill.

Right, during their 20 yrs of HOF MLB careers…..neither AP nor Yadi have ever been described as the “smartest player I’ve seen”….”a manager on the field”…..”always ahead of the game”……”leaders”……”like having another manager”……”works harder and longer than other”…..never have those things been said
On the other hand CTers will defend a nobody who never managed above rookie ball…..never played MLB……never did anything…..no pedigree…..little background…..but this fella is given the benefit of the doubt OVER AP and Yadi…

[Banner29]

By that logic clearly Pujols never played baseball either

Keep digging that hole

I’m on top of the mountain, Son.
Let’s get back to who would’ve had a better record than Marmol and why you think unproven people would have better records.

I already provided you with a reason and your only retort to that was how he wouldn’t based on something you learned by your little league coach 40 years ago.

I can comfortably say this conversation will probably never go anywhere of substance…..

But how do you know your selections would be good. Prove it. Being stuck on what I said about running the bases that I learned in Little League, obviously upset you. Never mind it’s like saying, I learned that in kindergarten.
It doesn’t really matter when you learn something. If you learn the ABCs in preschool, does that make the ABCs wrong?
You’re stuck on the irrelevant point.
Prove that a different manager would’ve won more games last year than Marmol.
Genius CT poster like yourself should be able to explain why you are smarter than Marmol that spends his entire waking hours thinking about baseball. You don’t think he learned anything at all?

I think it’s more of a case that you need a friend.

I’m pretty sure most people won’t be able to have a conversation with you. Because you have your opinion, if somebody doesn’t like it, they’re automatically an idiot. I’ve read some of your threads. You throw a tantrum. You sound angry.
Just admit that there is no way to prove any other manager would have won more games than a different manager. That’s the point. You don’t know. You don’t know any more than the next guy. You have no way to prove it. Your argument is stupid. That’s why people ask. How do you know? Because there is no way of knowing. Your selections could be worse. I have no way to know. So I don’t say that they will be worse.
We can’t have a conversation because you disagree with me, boo-hoo baby.

Now make sure you check my grammar and spelling, so you have something to respond to other than the topic. Idiot.

I literally said that Molina and Pujols ELITE baseball knowledge may not transpire to managing……..

I also never said anything about them being “my selections.” Only that they have been mentioned many times by posters on here. The fact that I made an argument for them based on their baseball smarts does not change that……

I also never called anyone an idiot……you did…..


I also never corrected your grammar


Also prove that I have thrown a tantrum……


You’re unstable

I can make a pretty safe assumption that they would be better than Oli but as of right now that’s all it is, an assumption. Much like saying that Pat Murphy on the Cardinals would be better than Oli, it’s a safe bet but still an assumption. But your logic is so dumb. Because the fact of the matter is Oli is not cutting it. And change will eventually be needed. And hanging your hat on “you can’t prove who could be better” is like keeping Miles Mikolas around because after all……”you can’t prove who will be better than him”

So first things first. Work on your reading comprehension. Second, when you’re done pouting that nobody likes Oli and are ready to talk like a big boy come back to me and then maybe something constructive can happen here

Thanks for admitting you don’t know.
There’s nothing constructive that could come from an opinion based forum. Nobody in a position of power is reading CT and making baseball decisions from them.

Not true at all. Plenty of constructive conversation can happen. Just because you’re incapable of it doesn’t mean others aren’t. Glad we cleared that up

Now go work on your reading comprehension.

That’s a very constructive post. I’ll forward it to Bloom. It should help in the standings. Idiot.

I love how after accusing me of calling people idiots you’ve since called me it twice.

Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself or is it just a matter of not being able to help it?

And how are comments like “learn to read” and get some comprehension” not the same thing? Keep arguing how something is said and not what is said.
And thank you once again for admitting you don’t know what manager would do what. That was the discussion. So thank you, normally people won’t admit they were wrong.
Genius.

I hurt your feelings because I pointed out your lack of basic reading comprehension and that’s me calling you an idiot? Which makes you compelled to call me that multiple times?


How could I be wrong about something we literally do not know about? There’s nothing definitive one way or another


You’re not wrong, I’m not wrong, nobody is wrong. And nobody will be wrong or right until someone other than Oli is managing. And until that happens this is all just nothing but debate. But you’re the only one here flocking your feathers as if you are right despite not making one compelling argument .

You really are unstable(I’m dead serious)……

I have no feelings about someone posting in forums. I don’t care.

I’m not wrong because I never said that somebody else could do a better job that has no track record. Even if they did have a track record, I couldn’t predict that they’re gonna do a better job.

And yeah, you are 100% wrong for claiming somebody could do a better job. Because you don’t know.

Now show me how smart you are and argue the order of the words I used.

Are your little smiley faces supposed to cover up your hostility?

Was you saying I’m unstable supposed to be constructive conversation and a compliment?

Idiot.

That makes 3 times now since YOU accused me of calling people idiots.

You can’t be wrong on something that has yet to be proven. I might be wrong. I might be right. The fact is olis work has been less than stellar and it’s hard to believe someone else couldn’t have done better, despite stating several times that they maybe couldn’t. Leaving the door open that I MIGHT be wrong. The fact this has to be explained to you…..


I said you are unstable because you are and probably need help. I’m being genuine there. Please don’t mistake that as an insult.