Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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11WSChamps wrote: 18 Feb 2026 21:00 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 18 Feb 2026 17:45 pm
ramfandan wrote: 18 Feb 2026 15:05 pm Everyone has a different perspective for sure. I am looking forward to the 2026 season. Guess in my DNA .. I didn't see the Cardinals in any playoff til I was age 16 back in 1964 . Still enjoyed rooting for them every single year. Will watch every game this year too (well with exception of the stream games I cannot get. 70+ years following the Cardinals .

Go Cards !
Did you enjoy the 70’s as much as I did? They never won but I loved watching.
Watching Ted Simmons made it worth watching.
With Bake McBride in center, Lou in left, Reggie in right, Ted behind the plate and Keith at first, how did we not win at least one of those years? Pitching was not good is mainly the answer. Those teams were still fun to watch, even if we didn't win more.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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11WSChamps wrote: 18 Feb 2026 21:00 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 18 Feb 2026 17:45 pm
ramfandan wrote: 18 Feb 2026 15:05 pm Everyone has a different perspective for sure. I am looking forward to the 2026 season. Guess in my DNA .. I didn't see the Cardinals in any playoff til I was age 16 back in 1964 . Still enjoyed rooting for them every single year. Will watch every game this year too (well with exception of the stream games I cannot get. 70+ years following the Cardinals .

Go Cards !
Did you enjoy the 70’s as much as I did? They never won but I loved watching.
Watching Ted Simmons made it worth watching.
My favorite player.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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Cardly wrote: 17 Feb 2026 20:09 pm For the past 2 seasons we were told Gorman had runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the last 2 seasons we were told Walker had a runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the past 2 seasons we have known Saggese needs to play second because his arm is best suited there.
Etc etc etc

Why did they not improve their big league roster during this past winter? This season is a wasted year with a PR joke telling us they have to see what they have. We already did that. It is not good!

My guess is that the record will be 62 wins and 100 loses.
Not a joke at all.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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Cardinals1964 wrote: 18 Feb 2026 17:45 pm
ramfandan wrote: 18 Feb 2026 15:05 pm Everyone has a different perspective for sure. I am looking forward to the 2026 season. Guess in my DNA .. I didn't see the Cardinals in any playoff til I was age 16 back in 1964 . Still enjoyed rooting for them every single year. Will watch every game this year too (well with exception of the stream games I cannot get. 70+ years following the Cardinals .

Go Cards !
Did you enjoy the 70’s as much as I did? They never won but I loved watching.
I did. And I know what you mean. The 70s were my turn years. Could not wait until the Cards played the Mets, or when I was lucky enough that the Cards were on the saturdsy NBC game of the week. My favorite players were Brock and Rietz. Team didn't sniff the playoffs in the 70s, but it was still cardinal baseball. Never even considered a boycott. Then things started looking up in the late 70s with the arrival of Simmons, Hernandez and Templeton, and I've got that same feeling this year. Looking forward to the new regime, and new young players. I think thats what made 82 so special.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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zuck698 wrote: 19 Feb 2026 00:39 am
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Feb 2026 21:00 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 18 Feb 2026 17:45 pm
ramfandan wrote: 18 Feb 2026 15:05 pm Everyone has a different perspective for sure. I am looking forward to the 2026 season. Guess in my DNA .. I didn't see the Cardinals in any playoff til I was age 16 back in 1964 . Still enjoyed rooting for them every single year. Will watch every game this year too (well with exception of the stream games I cannot get. 70+ years following the Cardinals .

Go Cards !
Did you enjoy the 70’s as much as I did? They never won but I loved watching.
Watching Ted Simmons made it worth watching.
With Bake McBride in center, Lou in left, Reggie in right, Ted behind the plate and Keith at first, how did we not win at least one of those years? Pitching was not good is mainly the answer. Those teams were still fun to watch, even if we didn't win more.
Because the Pirates, Reds and Dodgers were freaking loaded!
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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RamFan08NY wrote: 19 Feb 2026 07:39 am
zuck698 wrote: 19 Feb 2026 00:39 am
11WSChamps wrote: 18 Feb 2026 21:00 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 18 Feb 2026 17:45 pm
ramfandan wrote: 18 Feb 2026 15:05 pm Everyone has a different perspective for sure. I am looking forward to the 2026 season. Guess in my DNA .. I didn't see the Cardinals in any playoff til I was age 16 back in 1964 . Still enjoyed rooting for them every single year. Will watch every game this year too (well with exception of the stream games I cannot get. 70+ years following the Cardinals .

Go Cards !
Did you enjoy the 70’s as much as I did? They never won but I loved watching.
Watching Ted Simmons made it worth watching.
With Bake McBride in center, Lou in left, Reggie in right, Ted behind the plate and Keith at first, how did we not win at least one of those years? Pitching was not good is mainly the answer. Those teams were still fun to watch, even if we didn't win more.
Because the Pirates, Reds and Dodgers were freaking loaded!
Yes, they were, but our pitching was still terrible. The Carlton trade haunted them throughout the 70's. Plus, you had to earn that playoff spot back then. 4 teams vs. the 12 we have now. Might have snuck in there once or twice with these rules.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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Low expectations is my take on the 2026 season.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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Cardly wrote: 17 Feb 2026 20:09 pm For the past 2 seasons we were told Gorman had runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the last 2 seasons we were told Walker had a runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the past 2 seasons we have known Saggese needs to play second because his arm is best suited there.
Etc etc etc

Why did they not improve their big league roster during this past winter? This season is a wasted year with a PR joke telling us they have to see what they have. We already did that. It is not good!

My guess is that the record will be 62 wins and 100 loses.
You will most be likely be wrong
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 May 2026 22:33 pm
Cardly wrote: 17 Feb 2026 20:09 pm For the past 2 seasons we were told Gorman had runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the last 2 seasons we were told Walker had a runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the past 2 seasons we have known Saggese needs to play second because his arm is best suited there.
Etc etc etc

Why did they not improve their big league roster during this past winter? This season is a wasted year with a PR joke telling us they have to see what they have. We already did that. It is not good!

My guess is that the record will be 62 wins and 100 loses.
You will most be likely be wrong
This is why people calling Walker a bust was a joke. They gave up on him far too quickly.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2026 23:24 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 May 2026 22:33 pm
Cardly wrote: 17 Feb 2026 20:09 pm For the past 2 seasons we were told Gorman had runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the last 2 seasons we were told Walker had a runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the past 2 seasons we have known Saggese needs to play second because his arm is best suited there.
Etc etc etc

Why did they not improve their big league roster during this past winter? This season is a wasted year with a PR joke telling us they have to see what they have. We already did that. It is not good!

My guess is that the record will be 62 wins and 100 loses.
You will most be likely be wrong
This is why people calling Walker a bust was a joke. They gave up on him far too quickly.
Baseball is funny that way. It can make so many of us self-anointed experts look silly. I try to avoid the small sample size, the short attention span, the bumper sticker, and the “hot take”.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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BrockFloodMaris wrote: 10 May 2026 04:51 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2026 23:24 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 May 2026 22:33 pm
Cardly wrote: 17 Feb 2026 20:09 pm For the past 2 seasons we were told Gorman had runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the last 2 seasons we were told Walker had a runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the past 2 seasons we have known Saggese needs to play second because his arm is best suited there.
Etc etc etc

Why did they not improve their big league roster during this past winter? This season is a wasted year with a PR joke telling us they have to see what they have. We already did that. It is not good!

My guess is that the record will be 62 wins and 100 loses.
You will most be likely be wrong
This is why people calling Walker a bust was a joke. They gave up on him far too quickly.
Baseball is funny that way. It can make so many of us self-anointed experts look silly. I try to avoid the small sample size, the short attention span, the bumper sticker, and the “hot take”.
Sound advice Brock. Or unsustainable stats. Also, that jump from aaa to the show is a big one. Most don't make it smoothly.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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2ninr wrote: 10 May 2026 07:12 am
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 10 May 2026 04:51 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2026 23:24 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 May 2026 22:33 pm
Cardly wrote: 17 Feb 2026 20:09 pm For the past 2 seasons we were told Gorman had runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the last 2 seasons we were told Walker had a runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the past 2 seasons we have known Saggese needs to play second because his arm is best suited there.
Etc etc etc

Why did they not improve their big league roster during this past winter? This season is a wasted year with a PR joke telling us they have to see what they have. We already did that. It is not good!

My guess is that the record will be 62 wins and 100 loses.
You will most be likely be wrong
This is why people calling Walker a bust was a joke. They gave up on him far too quickly.
Baseball is funny that way. It can make so many of us self-anointed experts look silly. I try to avoid the small sample size, the short attention span, the bumper sticker, and the “hot take”.
Sound advice Brock. Or unsustainable stats. Also, that jump from aaa to the show is a big one. Most don't make it smoothly.
Perhaps what people should internalize is that the staff of the organization - the instructors, coaches, scouts, front office personnel, etc. - know vastly more about any particular player/prospect than we do - they have to know vastly more because they are around these guys every day.

If the organization isn't "giving up" on Walker, Gorman, Svanson, whoever - there is almost certainly a reason for it. When these guys struggle at the ML level, they can see that as well as we can. But they must have some reasons based on what they know to give them "more runway" to try to sort it out.

The staff of the organization won't be right 100% of the time - some of these guys will still fail no matter how much "runway" they are given. But they will be right, basically have to be right, much more than posters on CT just because they have access to a lot more detailed information than we do.

A CT poster's "eye test" never trumps years worth of information from working with players on a day-in, day-out basis.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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mattmitchl44 wrote: 10 May 2026 07:23 am
2ninr wrote: 10 May 2026 07:12 am
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 10 May 2026 04:51 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2026 23:24 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 May 2026 22:33 pm
Cardly wrote: 17 Feb 2026 20:09 pm For the past 2 seasons we were told Gorman had runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the last 2 seasons we were told Walker had a runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the past 2 seasons we have known Saggese needs to play second because his arm is best suited there.
Etc etc etc

Why did they not improve their big league roster during this past winter? This season is a wasted year with a PR joke telling us they have to see what they have. We already did that. It is not good!

My guess is that the record will be 62 wins and 100 loses.
You will most be likely be wrong
This is why people calling Walker a bust was a joke. They gave up on him far too quickly.
Baseball is funny that way. It can make so many of us self-anointed experts look silly. I try to avoid the small sample size, the short attention span, the bumper sticker, and the “hot take”.
Sound advice Brock. Or unsustainable stats. Also, that jump from aaa to the show is a big one. Most don't make it smoothly.
Perhaps what people should internalize is that the staff of the organization - the instructors, coaches, scouts, front office personnel, etc. - know vastly more about any particular player/prospect than we do - they have to know vastly more because they are around these guys every day.

If the organization isn't "giving up" on Walker, Gorman, Svanson, whoever - there is almost certainly a reason for it. When these guys struggle at the ML level, they can see that as well as we can. But they must have some reasons based on what they know to give them "more runway" to try to sort it out.

The staff of the organization won't be right 100% of the time - some of these guys will still fail no matter how much "runway" they are given. But they will be right, basically have to be right, much more than posters on CT just because they have access to a lot more detailed information than we do.

A CT poster's "eye test" never trumps years worth of information from working with players on a day-in, day-out basis.
Still the eye test is used by 40 K nightly to measure those analyticals. That’s all they got.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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The "joke" to this point is how there seems to be so much parity.

Some teams that were thought to be good have not been to this point and others like the Cardinals have been.

But still about 75% of the season left.
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 10 May 2026 07:33 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 10 May 2026 07:23 am
2ninr wrote: 10 May 2026 07:12 am
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 10 May 2026 04:51 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2026 23:24 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 May 2026 22:33 pm
Cardly wrote: 17 Feb 2026 20:09 pm For the past 2 seasons we were told Gorman had runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the last 2 seasons we were told Walker had a runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the past 2 seasons we have known Saggese needs to play second because his arm is best suited there.
Etc etc etc

Why did they not improve their big league roster during this past winter? This season is a wasted year with a PR joke telling us they have to see what they have. We already did that. It is not good!

My guess is that the record will be 62 wins and 100 loses.
You will most be likely be wrong
This is why people calling Walker a bust was a joke. They gave up on him far too quickly.
Baseball is funny that way. It can make so many of us self-anointed experts look silly. I try to avoid the small sample size, the short attention span, the bumper sticker, and the “hot take”.
Sound advice Brock. Or unsustainable stats. Also, that jump from aaa to the show is a big one. Most don't make it smoothly.
Perhaps what people should internalize is that the staff of the organization - the instructors, coaches, scouts, front office personnel, etc. - know vastly more about any particular player/prospect than we do - they have to know vastly more because they are around these guys every day.

If the organization isn't "giving up" on Walker, Gorman, Svanson, whoever - there is almost certainly a reason for it. When these guys struggle at the ML level, they can see that as well as we can. But they must have some reasons based on what they know to give them "more runway" to try to sort it out.

The staff of the organization won't be right 100% of the time - some of these guys will still fail no matter how much "runway" they are given. But they will be right, basically have to be right, much more than posters on CT just because they have access to a lot more detailed information than we do.

A CT poster's "eye test" never trumps years worth of information from working with players on a day-in, day-out basis.
Still the eye test is used by 40 K nightly to measure those analyticals. That’s all they got.
Well, the best we have to rely on are the "analyticals" that we have - which is far short of what the organization has.

"Eye test" < our limited "analyticals" < the organizational "analyticals" and supporting information
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Re: Does the 2026season seem like a joke?

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mattmitchl44 wrote: 10 May 2026 07:45 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 10 May 2026 07:33 am
mattmitchl44 wrote: 10 May 2026 07:23 am
2ninr wrote: 10 May 2026 07:12 am
BrockFloodMaris wrote: 10 May 2026 04:51 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 09 May 2026 23:24 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 09 May 2026 22:33 pm
Cardly wrote: 17 Feb 2026 20:09 pm For the past 2 seasons we were told Gorman had runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the last 2 seasons we were told Walker had a runway and we had to see what he had. What’s different this season? He is not good
For the past 2 seasons we have known Saggese needs to play second because his arm is best suited there.
Etc etc etc

Why did they not improve their big league roster during this past winter? This season is a wasted year with a PR joke telling us they have to see what they have. We already did that. It is not good!

My guess is that the record will be 62 wins and 100 loses.
You will most be likely be wrong
This is why people calling Walker a bust was a joke. They gave up on him far too quickly.
Baseball is funny that way. It can make so many of us self-anointed experts look silly. I try to avoid the small sample size, the short attention span, the bumper sticker, and the “hot take”.
Sound advice Brock. Or unsustainable stats. Also, that jump from aaa to the show is a big one. Most don't make it smoothly.
Perhaps what people should internalize is that the staff of the organization - the instructors, coaches, scouts, front office personnel, etc. - know vastly more about any particular player/prospect than we do - they have to know vastly more because they are around these guys every day.

If the organization isn't "giving up" on Walker, Gorman, Svanson, whoever - there is almost certainly a reason for it. When these guys struggle at the ML level, they can see that as well as we can. But they must have some reasons based on what they know to give them "more runway" to try to sort it out.

The staff of the organization won't be right 100% of the time - some of these guys will still fail no matter how much "runway" they are given. But they will be right, basically have to be right, much more than posters on CT just because they have access to a lot more detailed information than we do.

A CT poster's "eye test" never trumps years worth of information from working with players on a day-in, day-out basis.
Still the eye test is used by 40 K nightly to measure those analyticals. That’s all they got.
Well, the best we have to rely on are the "analyticals" that we have - which is far short of what the organization has.

"Eye test" < our limited "analyticals" < the organizational "analyticals" and supporting information
I hear ya. But at worst, I could go Eye Test = our limited analysis < org analytics and supporting docs.

I think a ball players and fans alike have keen eye sight.