Do the Cards have a clubhouse leader or a face of the franchise?

[scoutyjones2]

I don't see it...

[sikeston bulldog2]

I don't see it...

Can there be a difference. I’d say you can have a clubhouse guy, and an outside guy.

[bccardsfan]

Right now, I would say Scouty is right. Someone will emerge by season's end. Noot is head cheerleader, but that isn't what we are talking about. That said, none of us know what goes on in the clubhouse...

[scoutyjones2]

I don't see it...

Can there be a difference. I’d say you can have a clubhouse guy, and an outside guy.

Ok. Who would those b And is it necessary to have one or both or???

[ecleme22]

I don't see it...

You're new to rebuilds

[sikeston bulldog2]

I don't see it...

Can there be a difference. I’d say you can have a clubhouse guy, and an outside guy.

Ok. Who would those b And is it necessary to have one or both or???

Second question first. Yes you need a clubhouse man and a franchise man- I would think often the same guy.

You might have Judge as the man on the cover, the franchise guy, with Soto, as your clubhouse guy. Meaning multiple leaders on a team.

As for who ours are- I see Scott or Winn in the clubhouse, and JJ as your franchise.

[scoutyjones2]

I don't see it...

You're new to rebuilds

No. I've seen teams do rebuilds. Still had a face of the franchise and leader in the clubhouse.

See the Pittsburgh Penguins

[Jatalk]

I don't see it...

Can’t see what is not there.

Can’t wait until someone says JJ.

[scoutyjones2]

I don't see it...

Can’t see what is not there.

Can’t wait until someone says JJ.

They already did..along with Winn and Scott

[sikeston bulldog2]

I don't see it...

Can’t see what is not there.

Can’t wait until someone says JJ.

They already did..along with Winn and Scott

I did. Reference clubhouse of young kids, i can see Scott or Winn, doesn’t take long to age into a roll.

As for pitcher on the cover of the rolling stone, it’s the all hyped no action JJ.

Just the way it is.

[Shady]

I don't see it...

Can’t see what is not there.

Can’t wait until someone says JJ.

They already did..along with Winn and Scott

I did. Reference clubhouse of young kids, i can see Scott or Winn, doesn’t take long to age into a roll.

As for pitcher on the cover of the rolling stone, it’s the all hyped no action JJ.

Just the way it is.

Face of the franchise: Potentially, Winn and Wetherholt. Respected team leader: Alec Burleson. Especially, with Donovan gone.

[Hoosier59]

I don't see it...

You're new to rebuilds

What I find interesting, is that a couple of years ago, this was an issue of concern. You had, supposedly, both, Arenado and Goldschmidt asking the club to bring in somebody to help out in this area. The club resigned Matt Carpenter and Brandon Crawford to address this. They also signed Lance Lynn, and Kyle Gibson. Now, they have traded away every player that might have fulfilled this role and brought in, NO ONE ! Donovan was the obvious choice for this role, but when they traded him they didn’t even bring back anyone that will be on the 26 man in the next two years.
As stated Nootbaar is more of a cheerleader, not the same thing as a team leader. Burleson doesnt strike me as being one either, he’s more of the type that NEEDS someone to help show him the way! I like Herrera, and eventually good be a good one, but he’s still figuring his way through, and doesn’t need that added pressure.
I really think this is where Jon Jay, DeScalso, and Stubby have to try and fill this need, but it isn’t the same when they are Coaches.
The pitching staff has no one to help guide the young starters, and only Stanek for the bullpen. He’s kinda iffy for me.
Now that Spring Training has started, it’s almost too late to bring in someone now. I think this an error on Bloom’s part, and not his first of the off season!

[Shady]

I don't see it...

You're new to rebuilds

What I find interesting, is that a couple of years ago, this was an issue of concern. You had, supposedly, both, Arenado and Goldschmidt asking the club to bring in somebody to help out in this area. The club resigned Matt Carpenter and Brandon Crawford to address this. They also signed Lance Lynn, and Kyle Gibson. Now, they have traded away every player that might have fulfilled this role and brought in, NO ONE ! Donovan was the obvious choice for this role, but when they traded him they didn’t even bring back anyone that will be on the 26 man in the next two years.
As stated Nootbaar is more of a cheerleader, not the same thing as a team leader. Burleson doesnt strike me as being one either, he’s more of the type that NEEDS someone to help show him the way! I like Herrera, and eventually good be a good one, but he’s still figuring his way through, and doesn’t need that added pressure.
I really think this is where Jon Jay, DeScalso, and Stubby have to try and fill this need, but it isn’t the same when they are Coaches.
The pitching staff has no one to help guide the young starters, and only Stanek for the bullpen. He’s kinda iffy for me.
Now that Spring Training has started, it’s almost too late to bring in someone now. I think this an error on Bloom’s part, and not his first of the off season!

"Burleson doesnt strike me as being one either, he’s more of the type that NEEDS someone to help show him the way!" That's wrong and rather laughable.

[rockondlouie]

I don't see it...

I know this is premature scouty but I think by seasons end JJW could be the "face of the franchise".

As far as the clubhouse I don't see a true leader.

But I'd guess Bumbles and Noot will be the loudest voices in the clubhouse along w/M. Winn.

In the pitchers corner, it seems like Libby is trying to take the lead.

Slim pickins' indeed.

[Shady]

I don't see it...

I know this is premature scouty but I think by seasons end JJW could be the "face of the franchise".

As far as the clubhouse I don't see a true leader.

But I'd guess Bumbles and Noot will be the loudest voices in the clubhouse along w/M. Winn.

In the pitchers corner, it seems like Libby is trying to take the lead.

Slim pickins' indeed.

Burleson is far from being a loud voice. He is, however, a very popular and respected team mate by many fellow players. Ex.Jordan Walker.

[rockondlouie]

I don't see it...

I know this is premature scouty but I think by seasons end JJW could be the "face of the franchise".

As far as the clubhouse I don't see a true leader.

But I'd guess Bumbles and Noot will be the loudest voices in the clubhouse along w/M. Winn.

In the pitchers corner, it seems like Libby is trying to take the lead.

Slim pickins' indeed.

Burleson is far from being a loud voice. He is, however, a very popular and respected team mate by many fellow players. Ex.Jordan Walker.

Loudest voices doesn't refer to volume rather a voice of leadership.