A Reminder What This Team Can Be

[Bacchk29]

Well, he was drafted in the second round so a 1st is a net+. Especially considering that he is basically just a body on the ice.

He is not just a body. He is our best goal scorer at the moment based on his track record. Let's not be silly. We can hate on the guy--but give him credit also.

I give him credit for being gifted above average hockey skill. You can have all the skill in the world but if you are too scared to use it or lack the passion to maximize it then you are just average. He's very replaceable.

We all hope the return is good if he's traded. He is way too good to give him away. Hes one of the better Blues in recent memory. By posting his stats and comparing him to recent popular Blues---I hope that sheds a little reality on some folks' statements.

Kyrou sucks, hes trash, dump him, etc etc. Just not true. Not that many guys in the NHL that can do what he does. Lots of muckers--not a lot of talented scorers. Everyone has a role to play!!

Some have agendas no matter what the stats say. One of the best +/- on the team since Nov 1. Better production than Thomas in the playoffs. He’s just not a grinder like Sunny lol.

[TheJackBurton]

Well, he was drafted in the second round so a 1st is a net+. Especially considering that he is basically just a body on the ice.

Cmon now.

His draft position means nothing at this point, he's outperformed the majority of the 1st rounders in his draft class.

In a redraft he goes top 10 and very likely top 7 and laine would absolutely fall out of the first round based on his last 3-4 seasons.

Top 10? The guy skates hard for 10 seconds every 5 shifts. A first might be asking too much for him.

He's 10th in scoring from the 2016 class, but with Hagel, Sergachev, McAvoy, Chychrun, Hronek, and Girard right behind him. I'd say he falls solidly in the 12-16 range in a redraft.

But his warts are well known, as is his trade protection. Nobody will offer more than a 1st and prospect IMHO.

If you pass that up, do you really want to bank the next five years on Kyrou either putting it all together or upping is trade value while becoming more amendable to a trade?

No team is trading a 30 goal scorer, a near ppg forward, signed for 5 more season for a 1st and a prospect, that simply isn't happening.

[SameOldBlues]

Well, he was drafted in the second round so a 1st is a net+. Especially considering that he is basically just a body on the ice.

Cmon now.

His draft position means nothing at this point, he's outperformed the majority of the 1st rounders in his draft class.

In a redraft he goes top 10 and very likely top 7 and laine would absolutely fall out of the first round based on his last 3-4 seasons.

Top 10? The guy skates hard for 10 seconds every 5 shifts. A first might be asking too much for him.

He's 10th in scoring from the 2016 class, but with Hagel, Sergachev, McAvoy, Chychrun, Hronek, and Girard right behind him. I'd say he falls solidly in the 12-16 range in a redraft.

But his warts are well known, as is his trade protection. Nobody will offer more than a 1st and prospect IMHO.

If you pass that up, do you really want to bank the next five years on Kyrou either putting it all together or upping is trade value while becoming more amendable to a trade?

I want him gone because I'm personally sick of watching him coast 90% of the time. He's supposed to be our top offensive threat.

And quite frankly, I don't think that is a good example at all for the rookies who are coming up. People can rag on Buch all they want for having some bad years, but id rather have him teaching the kids how to play a hockey game than kyrou.

I agree with this completely…the part about Kyrou I mean. Id take a first and a (bleep) prospect to move him, just so his lackluster lackadaisical play for long periods of time doesn’t infect the kid’s mindsets of “well he gets to coast most games while Im bustin buutt, phuuk that, Im not giving 100% and takin a hit to make a play when others arent fully committed.”

That’s a real, legitimate concern. They’re young humans whi arent fully developed yet and we want them hanging around with this dude who blatantly dogs it on a regular basis? I just changed my mind, Id trade him for a 2nd, with no salary retention. I care more about the future development of the kids more than I do about Kyrou. Enough is enough. People need to stop falling in love with players just cause they’re temporary Blues and stop the chronic blind spots when evaluating players. We can lose without him, its already been proven we lose with him.

I also must say, it’s refreshing to see you talkin hockey and puttin your opinions out there instead of arguin all the time, JG. I for one thank you.

[Jeff Goldblum]

Well, he was drafted in the second round so a 1st is a net+. Especially considering that he is basically just a body on the ice.

Cmon now.

His draft position means nothing at this point, he's outperformed the majority of the 1st rounders in his draft class.

In a redraft he goes top 10 and very likely top 7 and laine would absolutely fall out of the first round based on his last 3-4 seasons.

Top 10? The guy skates hard for 10 seconds every 5 shifts. A first might be asking too much for him.

He's 10th in scoring from the 2016 class, but with Hagel, Sergachev, McAvoy, Chychrun, Hronek, and Girard right behind him. I'd say he falls solidly in the 12-16 range in a redraft.

But his warts are well known, as is his trade protection. Nobody will offer more than a 1st and prospect IMHO.

If you pass that up, do you really want to bank the next five years on Kyrou either putting it all together or upping is trade value while becoming more amendable to a trade?

I want him gone because I'm personally sick of watching him coast 90% of the time. He's supposed to be our top offensive threat.

And quite frankly, I don't think that is a good example at all for the rookies who are coming up. People can rag on Buch all they want for having some bad years, but id rather have him teaching the kids how to play a hockey game than kyrou.

I agree with this completely…the part about Kyrou I mean. Id take a first and a (bleep) prospect to move him, just so his lackluster lackadaisical play for long periods of time doesn’t infect the kid’s mindsets of “well he gets to coast most games while Im bustin buutt, phuuk that, Im not giving 100% and takin a hit to make a play when others arent fully committed.”

That’s a real, legitimate concern. They’re young humans whi arent fully developed yet and we want them hanging around with this dude who blatantly dogs it on a regular basis? I just changed my mind, Id trade him for a 2nd, with no salary retention. I care more about the future development of the kids more than I do about Kyrou. Enough is enough. People need to stop falling in love with players just cause they’re temporary Blues and stop the chronic blind spots when evaluating players. We can lose without him, its already been proven we lose with him.

I also must say, it’s refreshing to see you talkin hockey and puttin your opinions out there instead of arguin all the time, JG. I for one thank you.

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[Army's Mom]

Well, he was drafted in the second round so a 1st is a net+. Especially considering that he is basically just a body on the ice.

Cmon now.

His draft position means nothing at this point, he's outperformed the majority of the 1st rounders in his draft class.

In a redraft he goes top 10 and very likely top 7 and laine would absolutely fall out of the first round based on his last 3-4 seasons.

Top 10? The guy skates hard for 10 seconds every 5 shifts. A first might be asking too much for him.

He's 10th in scoring from the 2016 class, but with Hagel, Sergachev, McAvoy, Chychrun, Hronek, and Girard right behind him. I'd say he falls solidly in the 12-16 range in a redraft.

But his warts are well known, as is his trade protection. Nobody will offer more than a 1st and prospect IMHO.

If you pass that up, do you really want to bank the next five years on Kyrou either putting it all together or upping is trade value while becoming more amendable to a trade?

No team is trading a 30 goal scorer, a near ppg forward, signed for 5 more season for a 1st and a prospect, that simply isn't happening.

A 30 goal scorer who has to be sheltered and - on this team starved for offense - gets under 16 minutes per night.

I'm not saying he will be traded for so little. I'm just saying I don't expect offers to be much higher, and that I'd settle for so little in return.

[Bluesfan1978]

Well, he was drafted in the second round so a 1st is a net+. Especially considering that he is basically just a body on the ice.

Cmon now.

His draft position means nothing at this point, he's outperformed the majority of the 1st rounders in his draft class.

In a redraft he goes top 10 and very likely top 7 and laine would absolutely fall out of the first round based on his last 3-4 seasons.

Top 10? The guy skates hard for 10 seconds every 5 shifts. A first might be asking too much for him.

He's 10th in scoring from the 2016 class, but with Hagel, Sergachev, McAvoy, Chychrun, Hronek, and Girard right behind him. I'd say he falls solidly in the 12-16 range in a redraft.

But his warts are well known, as is his trade protection. Nobody will offer more than a 1st and prospect IMHO.

If you pass that up, do you really want to bank the next five years on Kyrou either putting it all together or upping is trade value while becoming more amendable to a trade?

No team is trading a 30 goal scorer, a near ppg forward, signed for 5 more season for a 1st and a prospect, that simply isn't happening.

A 30 goal scorer who has to be sheltered and - on this team starved for offense - gets under 16 minutes per night.

I'm not saying he will be traded for so little. I'm just saying I don't expect offers to be much higher, and that I'd settle for so little in return.

I think the most value the Blues could get for Kyrou would be having him be part of a package to a team like Ottawa that needs a 20-30 goal right winger.