Doesn't Burleson's BTV approximate Sirota's? Too bad their ML club is so stacked as that could have been a good trade. The Cards need all the OF prospects they could get and Gorman or Herrera could have filled 1B.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 15:05 pmAround and around we go . . .Shady wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 14:55 pmHow about getting Mike Sirota from the Dodgers in a deal for Romero?renostl wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 14:49 pmThere is little upside to getting a temporary player IMO.Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 14:10 pmWith all due respect.....you need to table the OF “power” concern for now.
First of all....how about we figure out:
Can Scott make enough contact and raise his OBP so his speed becomes a big factor?
Can Walker improve his plate discipline and become a more consistent hitter?
Can Noot stay healthy and FINALLY stop being a tease?
Is Church a player?
Does Herrera’s bat play better in LF?
Enough with the fixation on power.
What do YOU THINK?????
I'd much rather see how it plays out is bad as it may be.
Now if they find an higher upside player through a trade, all for it.
Per BTV,
Sirora: 22.1
Romero: 6.3
What else are you prepared to add to the package (that the Dodgers would actually want)? Keep in mind that trading valuable prospects and rostered players with several years of control is entirely counterproductive to the rebuild.
This might be the move to make for outfield help
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Re: This might be the move to make for outfield help
Sirota: 22.1Mort Gage wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 15:24 pmDoesn't Burleson's BTV approximate Sirota's? Too bad their ML club is so stacked as that could have been a good trade. The Cards need all the OF prospects they could get and Gorman or Herrera could have filled 1B.NYCardsFan wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 15:05 pmAround and around we go . . .Shady wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 14:55 pmHow about getting Mike Sirota from the Dodgers in a deal for Romero?renostl wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 14:49 pmThere is little upside to getting a temporary player IMO.Cusecards wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 14:10 pmWith all due respect.....you need to table the OF “power” concern for now.
First of all....how about we figure out:
Can Scott make enough contact and raise his OBP so his speed becomes a big factor?
Can Walker improve his plate discipline and become a more consistent hitter?
Can Noot stay healthy and FINALLY stop being a tease?
Is Church a player?
Does Herrera’s bat play better in LF?
Enough with the fixation on power.
What do YOU THINK?????
I'd much rather see how it plays out is bad as it may be.
Now if they find an higher upside player through a trade, all for it.
Per BTV,
Sirora: 22.1
Romero: 6.3
What else are you prepared to add to the package (that the Dodgers would actually want)? Keep in mind that trading valuable prospects and rostered players with several years of control is entirely counterproductive to the rebuild.
Burleson: 17.8
It appears Burleson's BTV (i.e., estimated surplus value) went down after his arbitration agreement. It was 22.5 previously.
Re: This might be the move to make for outfield help
This might be your worst idea ever.
Re: This might be the move to make for outfield help
I thought this was a rebuild, test-the-kids, prepare for the lockout season?
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That's why Church and Saggese might be platooned in LF at the start of the season. Especially, if Herrera starts the season at catcher. Saggese should get plenty ABs between DH, 3B (depending on how Gorman performs) and some outfield. Saggese could also fill in at 2B and SS occasionally.
Re: This might be the move to make for outfield help
Phils are on the hook for his salary. He was DFAed. Whoever picks him up gets him for the ML minimumKeeptheRamsinSTL wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 14:53 pmHe will clear waivers. No one wants his salary.HOUCARD wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 14:19 pm Cards are #11 on wavier claims behind:
1) Rocks
2) White Sox
3) Nats
4) Twins
5) Rats
6) Angels
7) O's
Braves
9) A's
10) Rays
11) Cards
Bet the Rats grab him.
Dude is an absolute butcher in the field.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/02/ ... lanos.html
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By all means, give them a shot!Shady wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 16:51 pmThat's why Church and Saggese might be platooned in LF at the start of the season. Especially, if Herrera starts the season at catcher. Saggese should get plenty ABs between DH, 3B (depending on how Gorman performs) and some outfield. Saggese could also fill in at 2B and SS occasionally.
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Cardinals' recent history tells us that there will be an injury before OD andShady wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 16:51 pmThat's why Church and Saggese might be platooned in LF at the start of the season. Especially, if Herrera starts the season at catcher. Saggese should get plenty ABs between DH, 3B (depending on how Gorman performs) and some outfield. Saggese could also fill in at 2B and SS occasionally.
a player that has a strong ST.
Without injury I expect that the goals of Herrera at catcher, Walker in the outfield, Scott/Church in CF and 4th guy,
Gorman at 3B, JJ at 2B will get the priority run time. That time may take a while, 4-8 weeks depending
on the amount of struggles and the player.
The RH bat may indeed be a Saggese, Valazquez, Ramos, or Fermin at this time.
Whoever rakes for 6-7 weeks. Imagine 6+ HR's may win a roster spot for that one reason.
After that the shuffle might be on, and little will surprise me except being fully healthy.
Re: This might be the move to make for outfield help
When will the consensus change on CT and complain we should have addressed the OF in offseason? I think by June most will criticize Bloom for being inactive in this area. The OF is going to be awful.
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WHAT??? He's the worst outfielder in the major leagues (an unheard of -90!! career DRS). That's why he's only a DH and the Phillies had to release him. Do you even watch games??Shady wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 09:54 amCasteilanos would be a one year fix for an outfield that needs help.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 09:41 am No. I don’t think it’s realistic. You need to think younger and cost controlled.
Next. We are attempting to solve the outfield mess. With youth. Takes time. More than an off-season.
That’s the trick. Waiting
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Re: This might be the move to make for outfield help
And not the leadership style we are looking for.ClassicO wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 07:35 amWHAT??? He's the worst outfielder in the major leagues (an unheard of -90!! career DRS). That's why he's only a DH and the Phillies had to release him. Do you even watch games??Shady wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 09:54 amCasteilanos would be a one year fix for an outfield that needs help.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 09:41 am No. I don’t think it’s realistic. You need to think younger and cost controlled.
Next. We are attempting to solve the outfield mess. With youth. Takes time. More than an off-season.
That’s the trick. Waiting
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Re: This might be the move to make for outfield help
renostl wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 17:58 pmCardinals' recent history tells us that there will be an injury before OD andShady wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 16:51 pmThat's why Church and Saggese might be platooned in LF at the start of the season. Especially, if Herrera starts the season at catcher. Saggese should get plenty ABs between DH, 3B (depending on how Gorman performs) and some outfield. Saggese could also fill in at 2B and SS occasionally.
a player that has a strong ST.
Without injury I expect that the goals of Herrera at catcher, Walker in the outfield, Scott/Church in CF and 4th guy,
Gorman at 3B, JJ at 2B will get the priority run time. That time may take a while, 4-8 weeks depending
on the amount of struggles and the player.
The RH bat may indeed be a Saggese, Valazquez, Ramos, or Fermin at this time.
Whoever rakes for 6-7 weeks. Imagine 6+ HR's may win a roster spot for that one reason.
After that the shuffle might be on, and little will surprise me except being fully healthy.
6-7 HRs in 6-7 weeks!
Re: This might be the move to make for outfield help
Yeah kinda sad.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 08:17 amrenostl wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 17:58 pmCardinals' recent history tells us that there will be an injury before OD andShady wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 16:51 pmThat's why Church and Saggese might be platooned in LF at the start of the season. Especially, if Herrera starts the season at catcher. Saggese should get plenty ABs between DH, 3B (depending on how Gorman performs) and some outfield. Saggese could also fill in at 2B and SS occasionally.
a player that has a strong ST.
Without injury I expect that the goals of Herrera at catcher, Walker in the outfield, Scott/Church in CF and 4th guy,
Gorman at 3B, JJ at 2B will get the priority run time. That time may take a while, 4-8 weeks depending
on the amount of struggles and the player.
The RH bat may indeed be a Saggese, Valazquez, Ramos, or Fermin at this time.
Whoever rakes for 6-7 weeks. Imagine 6+ HR's may win a roster spot for that one reason.
After that the shuffle might be on, and little will surprise me except being fully healthy.![]()
6-7 HRs in 6-7 weeks!![]()
Then again tell me how many AB's
Velasquez gets