Wallstedt for Robert Thomas Rumor

[a smell of green grass]

How about a 3-way along these lines?

Thomas to Minnesota

Walstedt to Detroit
Faulk to Detroit.

Danielson to St Louis
Cossa to St Louis
Pelika to St Louis
Faber to St Louis

Are we getting the crack you appear to be smoking as well?

Nah. You guys got enough of that.

What you guys get is my expert hockey knowledge. It’s priceless.

This deal is basically detroit trading the entire cupboard for faulk and a swap of goalie prospect

I see how you could think that.

Here is another way to look at it.

Detroit:
Detroit has cycled through many prospects over the years, and they understand better than most the value of a one solid prospect in hand in the NHL versus 3 in the bush league. So yes, they will gladly take Waldstedt in exchange for prospects in the bush leagues. Walstedt would be seen as solidifying their goaltending for their "run over the next 7 years".

Minnesota:
They need a 2C for their run. By giving up Buium and the rest for Hughes, they have already pushed all their chips into the pot of the present. Thomas would solidify their 2C for their run.

St Louis:
Thomas is a very average 1C, and it will be 4 years before he could moved to be a superior 2C in St Louis. By that time, his prime is over. To whatever team that Thomas moves, it will be to 2C where he will best succeed. Army wants to start over at finding the long-term 1C. Army also values Goalies more than most. He will gladly bank 2 solid ones, Hofer and Cossa. Army also wants some lower picks in his pocket in this draft and next. He has no 2nd round picks in 2026 and 2027.

You spent the time typing something that doesnt defend your point. It just says “im right because i type paragraphs.”

Soooooo you dont understand trading bolduc for LM.
But……
Detroit trading a center, rhd and a top goalie prospect for a 33 year old defenseman and a……..(wait for it) a goalie

Detroit needing a proven standout young goalie is much more believable than the Blues needing one... The point of my sample 3-way trade is to show that "Walstedt for Thomas" is more believable if it is just part of a multi-team deal.

But that trade is far from even, far from realistic and that trade puts detroit in a further hole.
You say we dont have trade pieces and then denand every trade piece from a deep organization. You are talking in circles

My example is just that, a spitball. I don't know the prospects. My point is only that Walstedt and Thomas may just be part of a bigger deal involving 3 or more teams.

[a smell of green grass]

Bottom line I think with anything involving Thomas is that we'd need so much in return for him that it won't make sense for the other team.

He is essentially much more valuable to us than he is to any practical trading partner. And he's not a problem we'd like to rid ourselves of. I'd be completely shocked if he got moved somehow, and trading him for just a goalie would be cause for immediate front office sackings.

While true on the face of it... we don't know what is going on behind the scenes.

I believe that it is quite possible that Thomas and Army are done with each other. Army has said for more than a year now that our best players are being outplayed by the other team's best players. That was a dig heard round the locker room, guaranteed.

[a smell of green grass]

Bottom line I think with anything involving Thomas is that we'd need so much in return for him that it won't make sense for the other team.

He is essentially much more valuable to us than he is to any practical trading partner. And he's not a problem we'd like to rid ourselves of. I'd be completely shocked if he got moved somehow, and trading him for just a goalie would be cause for immediate front office sackings.

While true on the face of it... we don't know what is going on behind the scenes.

I believe that it is quite possible that Thomas and Army are done with each other. Army has said for more than a year now that our best players are being outplayed by the other team's best players. That was a dig heard round the locker room, guaranteed.

Plus, Army didn't consider Thomas for the Olympics, but Cirelli got on it.

[Younghopp1991]

How about a 3-way along these lines?

Thomas to Minnesota

Walstedt to Detroit
Faulk to Detroit.

Danielson to St Louis
Cossa to St Louis
Pelika to St Louis
Faber to St Louis

Are we getting the crack you appear to be smoking as well?

Nah. You guys got enough of that.

What you guys get is my expert hockey knowledge. It’s priceless.

This deal is basically detroit trading the entire cupboard for faulk and a swap of goalie prospect

I see how you could think that.

Here is another way to look at it.

Detroit:
Detroit has cycled through many prospects over the years, and they understand better than most the value of a one solid prospect in hand in the NHL versus 3 in the bush league. So yes, they will gladly take Waldstedt in exchange for prospects in the bush leagues. Walstedt would be seen as solidifying their goaltending for their "run over the next 7 years".

Minnesota:
They need a 2C for their run. By giving up Buium and the rest for Hughes, they have already pushed all their chips into the pot of the present. Thomas would solidify their 2C for their run.

St Louis:
Thomas is a very average 1C, and it will be 4 years before he could moved to be a superior 2C in St Louis. By that time, his prime is over. To whatever team that Thomas moves, it will be to 2C where he will best succeed. Army wants to start over at finding the long-term 1C. Army also values Goalies more than most. He will gladly bank 2 solid ones, Hofer and Cossa. Army also wants some lower picks in his pocket in this draft and next. He has no 2nd round picks in 2026 and 2027.

You spent the time typing something that doesnt defend your point. It just says “im right because i type paragraphs.”

Soooooo you dont understand trading bolduc for LM.
But……
Detroit trading a center, rhd and a top goalie prospect for a 33 year old defenseman and a……..(wait for it) a goalie

Detroit needing a proven standout young goalie is much more believable than the Blues needing one... The point of my sample 3-way trade is to show that "Walstedt for Thomas" is more believable if it is just part of a multi-team deal.

But that trade is far from even, far from realistic and that trade puts detroit in a further hole.
You say we dont have trade pieces and then denand every trade piece from a deep organization. You are talking in circles

My example is just that, a spitball. I don't know the prospects. My point is only that Walstedt and Thomas may just be part of a bigger deal involving 3 or more teams.

One day: we have to pay teams to take our players. They are bad and have zero value.
Different day: faulk and thomas get us every detroit prospect.

You do this same thing with the draft.
We absolutely need a generational talent and we can only get it top 5 in the draft.
ASOGG: gimme malhotra

You SPAM every thread saying the same thing.

[seattleblue]

Hell no…if we are trading Thomas, the main piece coming back better be Michael Hage

those two Michigan-michigan state games this past weekend were awesome, so much high end talent on both teams. I am with you on the Hage hope

[a smell of green grass]

How about a 3-way along these lines?

Thomas to Minnesota

Walstedt to Detroit
Faulk to Detroit.

Danielson to St Louis
Cossa to St Louis
Pelika to St Louis
Faber to St Louis

Are we getting the crack you appear to be smoking as well?

Nah. You guys got enough of that.

What you guys get is my expert hockey knowledge. It’s priceless.

This deal is basically detroit trading the entire cupboard for faulk and a swap of goalie prospect

I see how you could think that.

Here is another way to look at it.

Detroit:
Detroit has cycled through many prospects over the years, and they understand better than most the value of a one solid prospect in hand in the NHL versus 3 in the bush league. So yes, they will gladly take Waldstedt in exchange for prospects in the bush leagues. Walstedt would be seen as solidifying their goaltending for their "run over the next 7 years".

Minnesota:
They need a 2C for their run. By giving up Buium and the rest for Hughes, they have already pushed all their chips into the pot of the present. Thomas would solidify their 2C for their run.

St Louis:
Thomas is a very average 1C, and it will be 4 years before he could moved to be a superior 2C in St Louis. By that time, his prime is over. To whatever team that Thomas moves, it will be to 2C where he will best succeed. Army wants to start over at finding the long-term 1C. Army also values Goalies more than most. He will gladly bank 2 solid ones, Hofer and Cossa. Army also wants some lower picks in his pocket in this draft and next. He has no 2nd round picks in 2026 and 2027.

You spent the time typing something that doesnt defend your point. It just says “im right because i type paragraphs.”

Soooooo you dont understand trading bolduc for LM.
But……
Detroit trading a center, rhd and a top goalie prospect for a 33 year old defenseman and a……..(wait for it) a goalie

Detroit needing a proven standout young goalie is much more believable than the Blues needing one... The point of my sample 3-way trade is to show that "Walstedt for Thomas" is more believable if it is just part of a multi-team deal.

But that trade is far from even, far from realistic and that trade puts detroit in a further hole.
You say we dont have trade pieces and then denand every trade piece from a deep organization. You are talking in circles

My example is just that, a spitball. I don't know the prospects. My point is only that Walstedt and Thomas may just be part of a bigger deal involving 3 or more teams.

One day: we have to pay teams to take our players. They are bad and have zero value.
Different day: faulk and thomas get us every detroit prospect.

You do this same thing with the draft.
We absolutely need a generational talent and we can only get it top 5 in the draft.
ASOGG: gimme malhotra

You SPAM every thread saying the same thing.

This is why you don't send kindergartners to Calculus class.

[Nublues69]

How about a 3-way along these lines?

Thomas to Minnesota

Walstedt to Detroit
Faulk to Detroit.

Danielson to St Louis
Cossa to St Louis
Pelika to St Louis
Faber to St Louis

Are we getting the crack you appear to be smoking as well?

Nah. You guys got enough of that.

What you guys get is my expert hockey knowledge. It’s priceless.

Trust me your expert hockey knowledge is not as expert as you think. I think we would have to sacrifice 4 first round picks just to trade you to another hokey board.... but trust me if we found a willng trade partner we would all agree to send you there lmfao

My agent is telling me that I'm worth 5 TOP5 picks. I'm guessing that that is what you are trying to say as well. Thanks.

no sorry your agent (aka Your mom) is just trying not to hurt your itty bitty lil feelings. in all honesty nobody likes you. You are about as usefull as a turd sandwich.....probably less usefull. We actually can wait till the day you just cease to message here.

[Pierre McGuire]

Hell no…if we are trading Thomas, the main piece coming back better be Michael Hage

those two Michigan-michigan state games this past weekend were awesome, so much high end talent on both teams. I am with you on the Hage hope

I’m on the Dean Letourneau bandwagon too…just not in a deal for Thomas. BC dominated BU in the Beanpot championship last night. Bruins had several prospects in that game..

[Younghopp1991]

Hell no…if we are trading Thomas, the main piece coming back better be Michael Hage

those two Michigan-michigan state games this past weekend were awesome, so much high end talent on both teams. I am with you on the Hage hope

I’m on the Dean Letourneau bandwagon too…just not in a deal for Thomas. BC dominated BU in the Beanpot championship last night. Bruins had several prospects in that game..

I was interested in him in the 24 draft. He was a bit out of our range (16) but hes been great. I wish we could find a deal based around kyrou . I believe boston has interest. Just not sure all the details.

[AtillaTheBlue1]

If Army pulls this bad trade off, fans should stop spending money on the team to send a message.

Thomas with his contract, his age, his skills, and hitting his prime years is worth a ton. He doesn't have to be moved at deadline, he can be moved in off season.

Not a 1st(late), scratch off, and a borderline scratch off goalie. Who cant put up good numbers behind a team Minny has, lol.

[succinct712]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/bl ... 25d4&ei=12


Here is another potentially underwhelming trade offer for Robert Thomas.

[Zizzle1297]

I am not opposed to Wallstead, but the would need to be much more than that.

I think Carolina, MTL, and multiple other teams would easily beat an offer from Minny

[LGB73]

If Thomas is shipped then either Danielson(Det) or Hage (Mtl) or some other high end C prospect is coming back. You're not shipping him out without getting a prospect back to replace him. I've said it before though that the organization is weak at C and we need to be adding to Thomas-Dvorsky not subtracting one and creating a deeper hole to climb out of. Find a way to add one of those guys while keeping Thomas and we'll be in a better place.

[Zizzle1297]

If Thomas is shipped then either Danielson(Det) or Hage (Mtl) or some other high end C prospect is coming back. You're not shipping him out without getting a prospect back to replace him. I've said it before though that the organization is weak at C and we need to be adding to Thomas-Dvorsky not subtracting one and creating a deeper hole to climb out of. Find a way to add one of those guys while keeping Thomas and we'll be in a better place.

I would agree. Moving Kryou for a Center makes more sense.

I would say Hage and Guhle would be great.

[a smell of green grass]

I'm curious what other's think about this.

I see Thomas as an exceptional 2C, but a below average 1C. I think Army agrees with me because of his "our best players are being outplayed by the other team's best players".

Based on that assessment, I'm guessing that our return and the trade target will ultimately reflect that.

Here is my prediction:
If traded, Thomas will go to a contender in desperate need of a 2C, and that is where he will be rostered. The return value will match more what a 2C commands than a 1C.

If no trade happens, this will be the reason why: Army wants 1C value for a 2C.

Thoughts?

[succinct712]

If Thomas is shipped then either Danielson(Det) or Hage (Mtl) or some other high end C prospect is coming back. You're not shipping him out without getting a prospect back to replace him. I've said it before though that the organization is weak at C and we need to be adding to Thomas-Dvorsky not subtracting one and creating a deeper hole to climb out of. Find a way to add one of those guys while keeping Thomas and we'll be in a better place.

No doubt!