Faulk to Redwings rumor

[blues2112]

A DET fan in that thread mentioned having someone to shelter ASP, but that's who I want from them

I do think we have what they need/want. Thomas to DET would be epic for them.

Any chance we can move Krug in this deal? Just go home

Trading Krug does nothing for us, only save the owners cash.

Yup. In the offseason though, his contract may help a team with getting to the cap floor. The Blues don’t have to deal that contract, but it may actually happen this offseason with the cap jump. As you said, just saves cash and doesn’t improve or hurt the team.

I could be wrong about this, but insurance should be paying his contract.

Maybe, I don't know. Either way I'm sure there are expenses.

Yes insurance covers. The issue is LTIR ends at the end of each season, so he has to be redeclared LTIR on the First Day of the next season until contract expires. Therefore the CAP takes a hit over the summer offseason during the time when the only takers would be those with Cap Floor issues, or those with a massive amount of CAP to absorb the hit (and generally that last category is unlikely to unload anyone that may be appealing or they may try to wait out to get something in addition from a desperate seller before season to make room during the offseason). So, it's not a cash flow effect for the Team, but it does "hamstring" in a sense when trying to build out and plan roster during Summer...hard to get the big impact player, so you fill in as best you can.
In most cases, the player obtains their own Inability To Perform insurance, usually through Lloyds Of London. However, the league allows each team to carry one policy for one Marquee designated player -- someone if they become LTIR could adversely affect ticket sales...kind of like a Business Interruption policy...not sure who that is for the Blues?? And the NHL itself carries 5 huge $ Marquee policies on whomever they and I guess with owners' input for elite players whom generate more ticket sales for when they are a visiting team (i.e. McDavid, Ovechkin, Crosby, etc.) If they are LTIR, then the policy kicks in and payments are shared with all of the teams (not sure if it excludes their own team since I'm sure they have their own policy).

Thanks for the explanation! I'm still learning something every day.

[clemonsonroots]

Faulk seems most likely to be traded. His production and leadership and consistency and stability are all positives.
He will bring back a High First round pick and an ok prospect imo.

We should be able to get more value since RHD is always in higher demand

First, he is still an older player with only one year remaining on his contract. Second, he is playing well, but he is a mid pair defenseman at this stage of his career. You are not getting more than that. Hopefully, we get that, and the high first is not true at all. None of the teams that would trade for an aging defenseman will have a "high" first. It will simply be (hopefully) a first and a decent prospect or a good prospect and a 2nd or 3rd round pick, and that would be great for us.

wth are you talking about?

How is that hard to understand? Faulk is in his mid-30's and the teams that will trade for him will have a low first round pick.

[bluetunehead]

Faulk seems most likely to be traded. His production and leadership and consistency and stability are all positives.
He will bring back a High First round pick and an ok prospect imo.

We should be able to get more value since RHD is always in higher demand

First, he is still an older player with only one year remaining on his contract. Second, he is playing well, but he is a mid pair defenseman at this stage of his career. You are not getting more than that. Hopefully, we get that, and the high first is not true at all. None of the teams that would trade for an aging defenseman will have a "high" first. It will simply be (hopefully) a first and a decent prospect or a good prospect and a 2nd or 3rd round pick, and that would be great for us.

wth are you talking about?

How is that hard to understand? Faulk is in his mid-30's and the teams that will trade for him will have a low first round pick.

See my post on the previous page. You mean the same thing and are phrasing it two different ways.

[clemonsonroots]

Faulk seems most likely to be traded. His production and leadership and consistency and stability are all positives.
He will bring back a High First round pick and an ok prospect imo.

We should be able to get more value since RHD is always in higher demand

First, he is still an older player with only one year remaining on his contract. Second, he is playing well, but he is a mid pair defenseman at this stage of his career. You are not getting more than that. Hopefully, we get that, and the high first is not true at all. None of the teams that would trade for an aging defenseman will have a "high" first. It will simply be (hopefully) a first and a decent prospect or a good prospect and a 2nd or 3rd round pick, and that would be great for us.

wth are you talking about?

How is that hard to understand? Faulk is in his mid-30's and the teams that will trade for him will have a low first round pick.

See my post on the previous page. You mean the same thing and are phrasing it two different ways.

? A high first is a top 15 pick...what are you talking about? I assume you originally meant a low pick?

[bluetunehead]

Faulk seems most likely to be traded. His production and leadership and consistency and stability are all positives.
He will bring back a High First round pick and an ok prospect imo.

We should be able to get more value since RHD is always in higher demand

First, he is still an older player with only one year remaining on his contract. Second, he is playing well, but he is a mid pair defenseman at this stage of his career. You are not getting more than that. Hopefully, we get that, and the high first is not true at all. None of the teams that would trade for an aging defenseman will have a "high" first. It will simply be (hopefully) a first and a decent prospect or a good prospect and a 2nd or 3rd round pick, and that would be great for us.

wth are you talking about?

How is that hard to understand? Faulk is in his mid-30's and the teams that will trade for him will have a low first round pick.

See my post on the previous page. You mean the same thing and are phrasing it two different ways.

? A high first is a top 15 pick...what are you talking about? I assume you originally meant a low pick?

What’s a ‘higher’ number in the traditional sense? 1 or 30?

[larueskee]

If AI put the Re Wings jersey and helmet on Faulk, great job. He looks great in red

I concur.

[clemonsonroots]

Faulk seems most likely to be traded. His production and leadership and consistency and stability are all positives.
He will bring back a High First round pick and an ok prospect imo.

We should be able to get more value since RHD is always in higher demand

First, he is still an older player with only one year remaining on his contract. Second, he is playing well, but he is a mid pair defenseman at this stage of his career. You are not getting more than that. Hopefully, we get that, and the high first is not true at all. None of the teams that would trade for an aging defenseman will have a "high" first. It will simply be (hopefully) a first and a decent prospect or a good prospect and a 2nd or 3rd round pick, and that would be great for us.

wth are you talking about?

How is that hard to understand? Faulk is in his mid-30's and the teams that will trade for him will have a low first round pick.

See my post on the previous page. You mean the same thing and are phrasing it two different ways.

? A high first is a top 15 pick...what are you talking about? I assume you originally meant a low pick?

What’s a ‘higher’ number in the traditional sense? 1 or 30?

this is about the dumbest argument that I have ever been in...but when someone says a high draft pick, it always means an early one.

[Old_Goat]

Faulk seems most likely to be traded. His production and leadership and consistency and stability are all positives.
He will bring back a High First round pick and an ok prospect imo.

We should be able to get more value since RHD is always in higher demand

First, he is still an older player with only one year remaining on his contract. Second, he is playing well, but he is a mid pair defenseman at this stage of his career. You are not getting more than that. Hopefully, we get that, and the high first is not true at all. None of the teams that would trade for an aging defenseman will have a "high" first. It will simply be (hopefully) a first and a decent prospect or a good prospect and a 2nd or 3rd round pick, and that would be great for us.

wth are you talking about?

How is that hard to understand? Faulk is in his mid-30's and the teams that will trade for him will have a low first round pick.

See my post on the previous page. You mean the same thing and are phrasing it two different ways.

? A high first is a top 15 pick...what are you talking about? I assume you originally meant a low pick?

What’s a ‘higher’ number in the traditional sense? 1 or 30?

Yes, I think you are right, they are both actually thinking the same way...it can get confusing with the various characterizations/manners in which different articles/folks may refer to the order of draft picks, "Top" or "High" or "Low"
Maybe we should just say, "A lousy team right now won't..." or "A legitimate Cup contending team right now will..."
Wars can start over people not understanding what the other is intending. A critical reason why a United people really only have a reasonable chance at succeeding if they can all speak and understand the same language. (I'll probably get banned now.)