Nick Bjugstad on the move???

[skilles]

This move in isolation makes no sense. Borderleau is AHL caliber.

This could signal that a larger trade is in the works with New Jersey. Maybe Kyrou will follow for more NJ assets.

I say this too because the Devils needed a reliable 3rd-line C, more size in their forwards, and SCORING DEPTH.

Maybe Kyrou for Lenni Hameenaho. Hameenaho is a prospect forward.

Sure it does, we are gonna be losing players on waivers soon if we don't make room. Bjugstad likely being one of them, we have way to many forwards.

Why is it an issue to lose players on waivers?

Are you asking why its worse to lose a player on waivers than it is to trade him for a useful pieces?

[skilles]

I don’t mind moving Bjugstad, but I sure hope the deal wasn’t made to keep open doors available for Joseph, Walker, Sunny, etc. those guys need to be finding new addresses, too, because there shouldn’t be any spots for them going forward.

I would think we are trading Joseph and Sunny.

Probably want to keep berggren

Those two have zero value on the trade market you’re just waiving them.

I disagree, I guess we will find out.

[ShakeyWalton]

I don’t mind moving Bjugstad, but I sure hope the deal wasn’t made to keep open doors available for Joseph, Walker, Sunny, etc. those guys need to be finding new addresses, too, because there shouldn’t be any spots for them going forward.

I would think we are trading Joseph and Sunny.

Probably want to keep berggren

Those two have zero value on the trade market you’re just waiving them.

I disagree, I guess we will find out.

What kid of return do you think Sundquist and/or Joseph will provide?

[skilles]

I don’t mind moving Bjugstad, but I sure hope the deal wasn’t made to keep open doors available for Joseph, Walker, Sunny, etc. those guys need to be finding new addresses, too, because there shouldn’t be any spots for them going forward.

I would think we are trading Joseph and Sunny.

Probably want to keep berggren

Those two have zero value on the trade market you’re just waiving them.

I disagree, I guess we will find out.

What kid of return do you think Sundquist and/or Joseph will provide?

Nothing great but something and everything you get counts/adds up.

There is a learning curve with the new playoff salary cap, I'd think we likely retain on Joseph

[Jeff Goldblum]

I don't see any reason to trade Suter. He's solid defensively can kill penalties and is quite frankly the perfect 3rd line center.

He’s been about the only positive surprise for the Blues this year, at least before he got injured. He is one of the only players on the team with a high hockey IQ. Hey, maybe that’s why they will trade him….he makes the rest of the team look dumb.

As they say in the Seinfeld universe
“That’s the genius of it”

Ay dios mio. El Diablo!

[JoshInFenton]

Kinda confused here.

We picked up a UFA, and traded him for a pick and a meh prospect.

We basically bought a 4th round pick, a late one, but a 4th round pick.

We're also trying to get a better pick at this point too by tanking without tanking officially?

I see nothing but positives on this one to be honest, he had a nice shot in traffic in the middle of the ice, but was otherwise JAG, getting something for him is a plus.

[TruBlueFan_1970]

Kinda confused here.

We picked up a UFA, and traded him for a pick and a meh prospect.

We basically bought a 4th round pick, a late one, but a 4th round pick.

We're also trying to get a better pick at this point too by tanking without tanking officially?

I see nothing but positives on this one to be honest, he had a nice shot in traffic in the middle of the ice, but was otherwise JAG, getting something for him is a plus.

Yup. It’s what bad teams do and what the Blues should be doing. Same with Suter. I like his game, but if he turns into a 2nd or 3rd rounder, it’s a win. Picks are capital. Not all are made, some are used in trades, so get them any time you can.

[juan good eye]

Kinda confused here.

We picked up a UFA, and traded him for a pick and a meh prospect.

We basically bought a 4th round pick, a late one, but a 4th round pick.

We're also trying to get a better pick at this point too by tanking without tanking officially?

I see nothing but positives on this one to be honest, he had a nice shot in traffic in the middle of the ice, but was otherwise JAG, getting something for him is a plus.

Hoped he was worth a third. Is Suter worth a second bc that would be helpful.

[The Average Gatsby]

I don’t mind moving Bjugstad, but I sure hope the deal wasn’t made to keep open doors available for Joseph, Walker, Sunny, etc. those guys need to be finding new addresses, too, because there shouldn’t be any spots for them going forward.

I would think we are trading Joseph and Sunny.

Probably want to keep berggren

Those two have zero value on the trade market you’re just waiving them.

I disagree, I guess we will find out.

What kid of return do you think Sundquist and/or Joseph will provide?

Nothing great but something and everything you get counts/adds up.

There is a learning curve with the new playoff salary cap, I'd think we likely retain on Joseph

I’m pretty sure you can only retain on 3 players at a time. I’m really banking on trading Schenn, Faulk, and Binnington and retaining on all 3. It’s a long shot but hopefully he’ll get in some games in the Olympics and come up big.

[skilles]

I don’t mind moving Bjugstad, but I sure hope the deal wasn’t made to keep open doors available for Joseph, Walker, Sunny, etc. those guys need to be finding new addresses, too, because there shouldn’t be any spots for them going forward.

I would think we are trading Joseph and Sunny.

Probably want to keep berggren

Those two have zero value on the trade market you’re just waiving them.

I disagree, I guess we will find out.

What kid of return do you think Sundquist and/or Joseph will provide?

Nothing great but something and everything you get counts/adds up.

There is a learning curve with the new playoff salary cap, I'd think we likely retain on Joseph

I’m pretty sure you can only retain on 3 players at a time. I’m really banking on trading Schenn, Faulk, and Binnington and retaining on all 3. It’s a long shot but hopefully he’ll get in some games in the Olympics and come up big.

Blues should not trade Faulk yet IMO of course unless its to good to turn down.

To me none of those 3 players are more valuable because they have the extra year. Players you trade at the deadline next year if your not a playoff team.

[TruBlueFan_1970]

I don’t mind moving Bjugstad, but I sure hope the deal wasn’t made to keep open doors available for Joseph, Walker, Sunny, etc. those guys need to be finding new addresses, too, because there shouldn’t be any spots for them going forward.

I would think we are trading Joseph and Sunny.

Probably want to keep berggren

Those two have zero value on the trade market you’re just waiving them.

I disagree, I guess we will find out.

What kid of return do you think Sundquist and/or Joseph will provide?

Nothing great but something and everything you get counts/adds up.

There is a learning curve with the new playoff salary cap, I'd think we likely retain on Joseph

I’m pretty sure you can only retain on 3 players at a time. I’m really banking on trading Schenn, Faulk, and Binnington and retaining on all 3. It’s a long shot but hopefully he’ll get in some games in the Olympics and come up big.

Blues should not trade Faulk yet IMO of course unless its to good to turn down.

To me none of those 3 players are more valuable because they have the extra year. Players you trade at the deadline next year if your not a playoff team.

I would not tie up all 3 retention slots for multiple years. For one of the 3, yes. But don’t limit your flexibility that much. I would trade Faulk on the sell high theory.

[2forDiving]

I don’t mind moving Bjugstad, but I sure hope the deal wasn’t made to keep open doors available for Joseph, Walker, Sunny, etc. those guys need to be finding new addresses, too, because there shouldn’t be any spots for them going forward.

I would think we are trading Joseph and Sunny.

Probably want to keep berggren

Those two have zero value on the trade market you’re just waiving them.

I disagree, I guess we will find out.

What kid of return do you think Sundquist and/or Joseph will provide?

Nothing great but something and everything you get counts/adds up.

There is a learning curve with the new playoff salary cap, I'd think we likely retain on Joseph

I’m pretty sure you can only retain on 3 players at a time. I’m really banking on trading Schenn, Faulk, and Binnington and retaining on all 3. It’s a long shot but hopefully he’ll get in some games in the Olympics and come up big.

Blues should not trade Faulk yet IMO of course unless its to good to turn down.

To me none of those 3 players are more valuable because they have the extra year. Players you trade at the deadline next year if your not a playoff team.

I would not tie up all 3 retention slots for multiple years. For one of the 3, yes. But don’t limit your flexibility that much. I would trade Faulk on the sell high theory.

I agree 100% and there is absolutely no reason to retain on Faulk unless you are getting a huge piece of your future back and I don’t count a late 1st rd pick as that.

[skilles]

I don’t mind moving Bjugstad, but I sure hope the deal wasn’t made to keep open doors available for Joseph, Walker, Sunny, etc. those guys need to be finding new addresses, too, because there shouldn’t be any spots for them going forward.

I would think we are trading Joseph and Sunny.

Probably want to keep berggren

Those two have zero value on the trade market you’re just waiving them.

I disagree, I guess we will find out.

What kid of return do you think Sundquist and/or Joseph will provide?

Nothing great but something and everything you get counts/adds up.

There is a learning curve with the new playoff salary cap, I'd think we likely retain on Joseph

I’m pretty sure you can only retain on 3 players at a time. I’m really banking on trading Schenn, Faulk, and Binnington and retaining on all 3. It’s a long shot but hopefully he’ll get in some games in the Olympics and come up big.

Blues should not trade Faulk yet IMO of course unless its to good to turn down.

To me none of those 3 players are more valuable because they have the extra year. Players you trade at the deadline next year if your not a playoff team.

I would not tie up all 3 retention slots for multiple years. For one of the 3, yes. But don’t limit your flexibility that much. I would trade Faulk on the sell high theory.

I mean I'm not going to say there is no way I'd trade him but I see quite a bit of value in having a defense that can be at least somewhat decent playing behind all the young forwards we have up or coming up.

Ive never really be much of a Faulk or Fowler fan really but I also think its a very bad idea to not give our young up and coming players any kind or reasonable d to play with.

I think doing that is very risky and could lead to an indefinite rebuild situation.

[2forDiving]

I don’t mind moving Bjugstad, but I sure hope the deal wasn’t made to keep open doors available for Joseph, Walker, Sunny, etc. those guys need to be finding new addresses, too, because there shouldn’t be any spots for them going forward.

I would think we are trading Joseph and Sunny.

Probably want to keep berggren

Those two have zero value on the trade market you’re just waiving them.

I disagree, I guess we will find out.

What kid of return do you think Sundquist and/or Joseph will provide?

Nothing great but something and everything you get counts/adds up.

There is a learning curve with the new playoff salary cap, I'd think we likely retain on Joseph

I’m pretty sure you can only retain on 3 players at a time. I’m really banking on trading Schenn, Faulk, and Binnington and retaining on all 3. It’s a long shot but hopefully he’ll get in some games in the Olympics and come up big.

Blues should not trade Faulk yet IMO of course unless its to good to turn down.

To me none of those 3 players are more valuable because they have the extra year. Players you trade at the deadline next year if your not a playoff team.

I would not tie up all 3 retention slots for multiple years. For one of the 3, yes. But don’t limit your flexibility that much. I would trade Faulk on the sell high theory.

I mean I'm not going to say there is no way I'd trade him but I see quite a bit of value in having a defense that can be at least somewhat decent playing behind all the young forwards we have up or coming up.

Ive never really be much of a Faulk or Fowler fan really but I also think its a very bad idea to not give our young up and coming players any kind or reasonable d to play with.

I think doing that is very risky and could lead to an indefinite rebuild situation.

That’s why I’m skeptical Faulk gets moved. They don’t have anyone in house to replace he or Thomas, which is why I doubt either is moved. Schenn, Kyrou, Binnington, and any of their 4th line forwards are more easily replaced IMO.

[skilles]

I don’t mind moving Bjugstad, but I sure hope the deal wasn’t made to keep open doors available for Joseph, Walker, Sunny, etc. those guys need to be finding new addresses, too, because there shouldn’t be any spots for them going forward.

I would think we are trading Joseph and Sunny.

Probably want to keep berggren

Those two have zero value on the trade market you’re just waiving them.

I disagree, I guess we will find out.

What kid of return do you think Sundquist and/or Joseph will provide?

Nothing great but something and everything you get counts/adds up.

There is a learning curve with the new playoff salary cap, I'd think we likely retain on Joseph

I’m pretty sure you can only retain on 3 players at a time. I’m really banking on trading Schenn, Faulk, and Binnington and retaining on all 3. It’s a long shot but hopefully he’ll get in some games in the Olympics and come up big.

Blues should not trade Faulk yet IMO of course unless its to good to turn down.

To me none of those 3 players are more valuable because they have the extra year. Players you trade at the deadline next year if your not a playoff team.

I would not tie up all 3 retention slots for multiple years. For one of the 3, yes. But don’t limit your flexibility that much. I would trade Faulk on the sell high theory.

I mean I'm not going to say there is no way I'd trade him but I see quite a bit of value in having a defense that can be at least somewhat decent playing behind all the young forwards we have up or coming up.

Ive never really be much of a Faulk or Fowler fan really but I also think its a very bad idea to not give our young up and coming players any kind or reasonable d to play with.

I think doing that is very risky and could lead to an indefinite rebuild situation.

That’s why I’m skeptical Faulk gets moved. They don’t have anyone in house to replace he or Thomas, which is why I doubt either is moved. Schenn, Kyrou, Binnington, and any of their 4th line forwards are more easily replaced IMO.

Yeah I agree, I'm open to trading those 3 but really no urgency to do so at the deadline.

The only thing we have to move are the UFA players and we don't have a ton of return value there.

[a smell of green grass]

Does this go down as the most boring trade of the Century?

Just Army bringing a little more NHL excitement to St Louis.