Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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Re: Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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I’m not 100% sure, but I think Kyle Tucker is going to make more money than the Cards roster this year.
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Re: Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:13 pm
peterman'srealitytour wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:54 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:47 pm Why? Bloom masterfully opened up about 1000 ab for young guys. I didn’t look it up.
What’s Andujar do for you? You think we are winning in 2026?
Touched a nerve, ‘eh?

Yeah, I get your p!$$ed off at Bloom but join us in the real world. He was hired to tear it down and build it back up. Like it or not

Why sign Andujar? He’s an investment. Hop e he catches fire and flip ‘em at the deadline, that’s why.
I’d try to read again what I wrote. I said Bloom masterfully opens up 1000 abs. It’s actually 1500. I looked it up.
WTF are you talking about?
My bad. I detected some sarcasm that wasn’t real. Couldn’t understand why you were not onboard with a sign and flip for Andujar. Apologies to you.
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Re: Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:37 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:21 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:13 pm
peterman'srealitytour wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:54 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:47 pm Why? Bloom masterfully opened up about 1000 ab for young guys. I didn’t look it up.
What’s Andujar do for you? You think we are winning in 2026?
Touched a nerve, ‘eh?

Yeah, I get your p!$$ed off at Bloom but join us in the real world. He was hired to tear it down and build it back up. Like it or not

Why sign Andujar? He’s an investment. Hop e he catches fire and flip ‘em at the deadline, that’s why.
I’d try to read again what I wrote. I said Bloom masterfully opens up 1000 abs. It’s actually 1500. I looked it up.
WTF are you talking about?
Ok, say they sign Andujar and he repeats what he did last year, doubtful, but let’s say he does, Just what kind of a return do you expect to get for him? Another low A prospect, whoopee!
I’d rather see what the guys we already have can do. What if Fermin or Torres or Church replicate what they’ve done at AAA? Wouldn’t that be more valuable than signing Andujar to a $10-$15 mil contract? We aren’t winning anything anyway!
Agree. Even if he has a somewhat productive first half, you aren't getting any game-changing prospects back for him. Saggese and Fermin both have alluded to working in the OF. Nathan Church needs and deserves a much longer look. Bryan Torres, in my opinion, is a pure hitter and a legit, old-school leadoff type. Would love for him to get an opportunity.
What gets me is, people on here want to go and acquire all these young prospects but aren’t willing to see what the ones we already have can do!!! Something to do with greener pastures or newer shiny coins I guess!
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Re: Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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peterman'srealitytour wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:41 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:13 pm
peterman'srealitytour wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:54 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:47 pm Why? Bloom masterfully opened up about 1000 ab for young guys. I didn’t look it up.
What’s Andujar do for you? You think we are winning in 2026?
Touched a nerve, ‘eh?

Yeah, I get your p!$$ed off at Bloom but join us in the real world. He was hired to tear it down and build it back up. Like it or not

Why sign Andujar? He’s an investment. Hop e he catches fire and flip ‘em at the deadline, that’s why.
I’d try to read again what I wrote. I said Bloom masterfully opens up 1000 abs. It’s actually 1500. I looked it up.
WTF are you talking about?
I don’t buy into the new strategy of sign and flip.

My bad. I detected some sarcasm that wasn’t real. Couldn’t understand why you were not onboard with a sign and flip for Andujar. Apologies to you.
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Re: Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:47 pm Why? Bloom masterfully opened up about 1000 ab for young guys. I didn’t look it up.
What’s Andujar do for you? You think we are winning in 2026?
Didn't heention looking for a RH bat?
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Re: Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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If they add 1 more player, it should be a starting pitcher.

You cannot count on another season with 0 injuries to your starting pitchers, especially with a several starters who have never had a healthy season.
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Re: Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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Hoosier59 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:21 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:13 pm
peterman'srealitytour wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:54 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:47 pm Why? Bloom masterfully opened up about 1000 ab for young guys. I didn’t look it up.
What’s Andujar do for you? You think we are winning in 2026?
Touched a nerve, ‘eh?

Yeah, I get your p!$$ed off at Bloom but join us in the real world. He was hired to tear it down and build it back up. Like it or not

Why sign Andujar? He’s an investment. Hop e he catches fire and flip ‘em at the deadline, that’s why.
I’d try to read again what I wrote. I said Bloom masterfully opens up 1000 abs. It’s actually 1500. I looked it up.
WTF are you talking about?
Ok, say they sign Andujar and he repeats what he did last year, doubtful, but let’s say he does, Just what kind of a return do you expect to get for him? Another low A prospect, whoopee!
I’d rather see what the guys we already have can do. What if Fermin or Torres or Church replicate what they’ve done at AAA? Wouldn’t that be more valuable than signing Andujar to a $10-$15 mil contract? We aren’t winning anything anyway!
Wow, gonna keep doubling down on the Fermin,Torres and Church angle? This, despite the fact that Andujar has an entirely different skill set and bats RH? Torres and Church hit LH. Fermin is a 26 year old contact hitting infielder. Saggese is younger and more highly regarded.

And where did you come up with $10-15M for Andujar??
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:46 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:47 pm Why? Bloom masterfully opened up about 1000 ab for young guys. I didn’t look it up.
What’s Andujar do for you? You think we are winning in 2026?
Didn't heention looking for a RH bat?
He did sign a RH bat. There are 3 OF positions. Center is left. Right is right. Left is the tie breaker. I don’t see the problem.
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Re: Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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peterman'srealitytour wrote: 02 Feb 2026 23:02 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:21 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:13 pm
peterman'srealitytour wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:54 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:47 pm Why? Bloom masterfully opened up about 1000 ab for young guys. I didn’t look it up.
What’s Andujar do for you? You think we are winning in 2026?
Touched a nerve, ‘eh?

Yeah, I get your p!$$ed off at Bloom but join us in the real world. He was hired to tear it down and build it back up. Like it or not

Why sign Andujar? He’s an investment. Hop e he catches fire and flip ‘em at the deadline, that’s why.
I’d try to read again what I wrote. I said Bloom masterfully opens up 1000 abs. It’s actually 1500. I looked it up.
WTF are you talking about?
Ok, say they sign Andujar and he repeats what he did last year, doubtful, but let’s say he does, Just what kind of a return do you expect to get for him? Another low A prospect, whoopee!
I’d rather see what the guys we already have can do. What if Fermin or Torres or Church replicate what they’ve done at AAA? Wouldn’t that be more valuable than signing Andujar to a $10-$15 mil contract? We aren’t winning anything anyway!
Wow, gonna keep doubling down on the Fermin,Torres and Church angle? This, despite the fact that Andujar has an entirely different skill set and bats RH? Torres and Church hit LH. Fermin is a 26 year old contact hitting infielder. Saggese is younger and more highly regarded.

And where did you come up with $10-15M for Andujar??
Did you not see what Hayes signed for? Andujar hit for a higher average than Hayes and can also play infield. If the Cardinals were trying to win, Andujar would make some sense, but they aren’t, so he’s not needed.
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greyhawk wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:54 pm how about lower ticket and beer prices to draw butts into the seats? make a deal/pledge to the fans.
Great suggestion. It would be a good and smart gesture to pass on some of the savings from all the payroll reductions.

Instead of asking fans to pay a premium price for an inferior product, they could invite them back to the park at an affordable family-friendly price under the premise they are building something great for the future and they want the fans to be a part of it at the ground level.

That’s an easier sell and a better PR move for the team. Maybe they could better justify being cheap for a couple of years while they build a new young core if they let the fans off cheap for a while too.

It would be good to include fan trust as part of the rebuild efforts too.
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cardstatman wrote: 02 Feb 2026 23:02 pm If they add 1 more player, it should be a starting pitcher.

You cannot count on another season with 0 injuries to your starting pitchers, especially with a several starters who have never had a healthy season.
I wish Mikolas would have broken his arm last year.
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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 03 Feb 2026 00:12 am
greyhawk wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:54 pm how about lower ticket and beer prices to draw butts into the seats? make a deal/pledge to the fans.
Great suggestion. It would be a good and smart gesture to pass on some of the savings from all the payroll reductions.

Instead of asking fans to pay a premium price for an inferior product, they could invite them back to the park at an affordable family-friendly price under the premise they are building something great for the future and they want the fans to be a part of it at the ground level.

That’s an easier sell and a better PR move for the team. Maybe they could better justify being cheap for a couple of years while they build a new young core if they let the fans off cheap for a while too.

It would be good to include fan trust as part of the rebuild efforts too.
Tell your boss to lower costs and gain more clients. Not a bright business model.
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:46 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:47 pm Why? Bloom masterfully opened up about 1000 ab for young guys. I didn’t look it up.
What’s Andujar do for you? You think we are winning in 2026?
Didn't heention looking for a RH bat?
He did sign a right handed bat.
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Cardinals1964 wrote: 03 Feb 2026 00:22 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:46 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:47 pm Why? Bloom masterfully opened up about 1000 ab for young guys. I didn’t look it up.
What’s Andujar do for you? You think we are winning in 2026?
Didn't heention looking for a RH bat?
He did sign a right handed bat.
He did but that’s not the kind of right handed bat he’s looking for for the majors. He wants a veteran right handed hitter to provide leadership
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Re: Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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Cardinals1964 wrote: 03 Feb 2026 00:21 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 03 Feb 2026 00:12 am
greyhawk wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:54 pm how about lower ticket and beer prices to draw butts into the seats? make a deal/pledge to the fans.
Great suggestion. It would be a good and smart gesture to pass on some of the savings from all the payroll reductions.

Instead of asking fans to pay a premium price for an inferior product, they could invite them back to the park at an affordable family-friendly price under the premise they are building something great for the future and they want the fans to be a part of it at the ground level.

That’s an easier sell and a better PR move for the team. Maybe they could better justify being cheap for a couple of years while they build a new young core if they let the fans off cheap for a while too.

It would be good to include fan trust as part of the rebuild efforts too.
Tell your boss to lower costs and gain more clients. Not a bright business model.
Tell your boss to lower quality and charge more. Not too bright either.

Are you saying having an occasional sale never serves to stimulate business?
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Re: Knocked another $5.8M off 2026 salary with Donny trade

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 03 Feb 2026 00:30 am
Cardinals1964 wrote: 03 Feb 2026 00:22 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 22:46 pm
Cardinals1964 wrote: 02 Feb 2026 21:47 pm Why? Bloom masterfully opened up about 1000 ab for young guys. I didn’t look it up.
What’s Andujar do for you? You think we are winning in 2026?
Didn't heention looking for a RH bat?
He did sign a right handed bat.
He did but that’s not the kind of right handed bat he’s looking for for the majors. He wants a veteran right handed hitter to provide leadership
Like Siani or Hampson?