Logan Mailloux

[Bubble4427]

Adin Hill to start
“Everyone’s talking about it!”
Stupid princess…..

…how did you not know that goaltenders are named on game day? How?

Laughing

I didn’t start the thread dumb chit….
You STARTED THE THREAD proclaiming he was starting and that everyone is talking about it.
You lied, you got caught. It happens weekly on here to you. Kyrou tongue pics that you posted for weeks and now deny…
We all laugh at you princess.
Now it’s your turn to deflect and claim some hollow victory. Enjoy your evening princess.

How is it a lie when I know goaltenders are named on game day? Every Canadian knows this. You didn’t know this. So you call it a lie.

Binnington was awful … just like now. People were screaming for his head. Did you even watch the tournament?

I actually love…love that you keep calling it a lie. Your are legit one of the dumber people here.

Please never stop talking about the lie

Hahaha

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“Losing that job….about time”

That is what you call a lie. Now go back to denying your multiple pics of Kyrou sticking his tongue out …..
You cant possibly wonder why no one respects you on here right?
Stupid princess……

[Ziggy3]

There seems to be a constituency on here who think that mailloux was billed as the second coming of makar.

Well of course not, but I think the general framing of the situation in the offseason does have a lot to do with the backlash.

The comments by Armstrong, saying they believed he was NHL-ready and basically suggesting the spot on the roster was his to lose; then the wild move of starting him off paired with Tucker, which to me gave the impression that not only must he be NHL-ready, but in fact solid enough to complement a partner who himself is a borderline NHLer...you combine all that with the absolute face-plant that was the start of his season and yeah, there's gonna be some second-guessing.

The perspective might've been totally different if the message was, "We like this kid's tools, and we think he'll be real good. Whether that's this season or not, we'll have to see how camp goes. We want to be patient." And then, you know, ACTUALLY put him in a position to succeed...I still don't really like the trade, but all that would've made me feel a lot better about it.

[TruBlueFan_1970]

I think Mailloux will be fine, although I still don't like the price we paid. I think a 2nd round pick or a pick, and a prospect would have gotten the deal done. I'm one however who doesn't have overly high expectations for him. I like his size, his physicality (when he uses it), he's a decent skater, has a good shot (like to see it get through more), and he stands up for teammates. I see him long-term as an Edmundson type. Someone who is normally a reliable 5-6 type Dman, who can play top 4 in a pinch. Will pitch in offensively a bit but will never be a big scorer. Will add size and toughness on the back end.

If he can end up that type of Dman, I'm perfectly fine with this trade. He's still only 22, soon to be 23, and has under 100 games in the NHL. The tools are there, so hopefully he can put them together to carve out a role in the NHL.

[Old_Goat]

In July 2025, after acquiring Mailloux from Montreal in exchange for Zack Bolduc, Armstrong stated: "We think he’s NHL-ready now. I talked to him, I told him he’ll have the opportunity to have a job now. It’s his job to come into camp and keep it."
Armstrong praised Mailloux’s excellent skating, strong shot, and offensive potential, calling him a key addition to address the Blues’ right-handed defenseman needs.
Despite early-season struggles in the 2025–26 season, Armstrong maintained belief in Mailloux’s long-term upside.
On November 9, 2025, Armstrong announced Mailloux’s reassignment to the AHL’s Springfield Thunderbirds, citing the need for a "reset" to help Mailloux "get his game back" and "unlock his mind" from anxiety and pressure.
Armstrong emphasized that the move was not solely about Mailloux’s performance, noting the team as a whole was "not functioning at a high level" at the time.
The Blues remain committed to Mailloux’s development, viewing him as a future top-four defenseman with high potential.

Really good post Harry.
Sure we wish Mailloux was providing more offense ideally with goals, but especially with assists. Even if that doesn't happen, if he can be a reliable cog in ensuring clean breakouts of the D-zone and the ensuing passes up front result in a goal for which he does not get an Official Scorers' Assist, then that's great too.
I'm more disturbed that so many of our "Offensive" forwards are not contributing to our offense.
I'll also point out that Mailloux is pretty effective at getting to the center red line before shooting or moving the puck into the zone if there is no other play. Focus on watching that...he doesn't create so many of those frustrating Icing calls that put our tired players buried deep in our zone for a face-off.

[Jeff Goldblum]

There seems to be a constituency on here who think that mailloux was billed as the second coming of makar.

Well of course not, but I think the general framing of the situation in the offseason does have a lot to do with the backlash.

The comments by Armstrong, saying they believed he was NHL-ready and basically suggesting the spot on the roster was his to lose; then the wild move of starting him off paired with Tucker, which to me gave the impression that not only must he be NHL-ready, but in fact solid enough to complement a partner who himself is a borderline NHLer...you combine all that with the absolute face-plant that was the start of his season and yeah, there's gonna be some second-guessing.

The perspective might've been totally different if the message was, "We like this kid's tools, and we think he'll be real good. Whether that's this season or not, we'll have to see how camp goes. We want to be patient." And then, you know, ACTUALLY put him in a position to succeed...I still don't really like the trade, but all that would've made me feel a lot better about it.

It was known from the beginning that he is a work-in-progress. We all knew that there would be growing pains and he wasn't going to set the world on fire this season. We were all expecting a rough rookie season and he has shown marked improvement from his first few weeks.

[Old_Goat]

The OG Race doesn't like jheri curl. . . shocking.

What is the OG Race? I’m not sure, so do tell

A clandestine group of banned screen names, masking a half-wit whose “humor” and hobbies seem to include hours spent on Google images gathering half-naked and tongue pics of hockey players to post on a hockey forum. Oh - he actually denied he does this, but then doubles down in the following days by posting more and more pics from his collection.

And an admitted racist to boot. Piece of work that one.

Really? I am surprised to hear that.

Yeah, he made some pretty ugly comments about Kadri's heritage back in the day, and, surprisingly, owned them. (shrug)

Well, he keeps coming back with new screen names after he’s been banned more than once and he somehow decided to flat out deny he ever posted multiple half-naked and tongue wagging pics of young hockey players on this very forum as if people don’t remember. I guess I believe anything about such an individual.

He's a master at twisting words or misrepresenting/implying the sender's intent. He cannot clearly see the King's English in black & white. Someone offers to get together with absolutely no mention of anything bad. I mean a person can at least share a pitcher of beer even if they are no longer able to chew solid food.

[BleedingBleu]

Pro
1. Improvement is better than not improvement
2. As you say there's lots of projects going on so it's a throwaway season so of all times to learn, throwaway seasons at least it's not his fault

Con
1. we are talking about improvement from an abysmal baseline (see Kyrou, Jordan) and the improvement is still openly inadequate
2. more continued misjudgment from the front office on NHL defense in a situation where everyone correctly doubts them (they expected much better than whatever this still is)

100% couldn’t say it much better

thanks I almost referenced this summer's podcasting blues universe optimism that all homers jumped on. I was going to mention the Pronger thing because, while it's a hilarious self caricature of a homer comment to say that, I felt like it was in the rearview mirror

Nope, that is still around. dear lord, just a few posts up ... the pro Mailloux side just isn't trustworthy

Yea I feel the homer in people are causing them to see something that isn’t there. Yes Mailloux has improved because he almost literally had nowhere to go but up. He was statistically the worst player in the league for about half the season. Anyone who says this is the guy who the Blues thought they were getting is either lying to us or lying to themselves.

He did have a relatively strong rush later in the game last night where he skated out of trouble behind the net which was noticeable because I hadn’t seen much of it. It didn’t amount to anything but it was at least something.

Could he end up being a decent player? Sure. But this year has not done much to add any certainty to that in my opinion.

Serious question, but is it possible your initial assessment was completely out of scope for a 21 year old w/8 NHL Games under his belt in 2 years?

Maybe I just have more respect for Blues fans on this forum, because it’s been around for +20 years, has a lot of entrenched regulars, and very knowledgeable posters who are regularly commenting on the sport beyond the FanDuel broadcasts. However, when someone has to segregate their opinion from a mass of people by declaring them “Homers,” I start to question whether that person is actually capable of introspection.

- Logan Mailloux, 31st Pick in the 2021 Draft. 7th Defenseman taken.
- It’s WIDELY UNDERSTOOD Defenseman take a while to develop. We are constantly reminded of this when reflecting on Broberg, Mikola, Walman, Chris Pronger.
- Mailloux had 7 Games (16:12 ATOI) for MTL last year. No Playoffs, and was a -5
- Mailloux will turn 23 at the end of April.
- Broberg (Top 10 Pick, 3rd Defenseman) in Edmonton over that same age interval played in just 81 Games and was at 12:24 ATOI over the duration. Mailloux at 48, likely finishes around ~80.

No, I’m obviously not saying Mailloux is Broberg. However, I can’t rationalize what your expectations are and why you had them inflated in the first place? Finally, you can wave your finger at the “Homers,” but what I’m seeing from those rubes is optimism supported by factual data.

I think you’ve allowed the forum trolls to skew your mindset. It’s like this whole forum requires every RHD be measured to a former Top 5 pick, who was only available because the team couldn’t win games. Those things don’t grow on trees, and can’t simply be acquired for a 3rd Line Winger taken 17th Overall. Sometimes, we can assess the asset for exactly what it is without the self-flagellation.

Why single me out? I’m not the only one who is underwhelmed. Yes I do think that if Mailloux played for another team, people would not be saying he looks good.

You say that the facts support the optimism. What facts? His numbers are really bad. That’s a fact. 3 points, -23. He’s the 5th worst average game score in the league for the season on hockey stat cards. He is better than he was at the beginning, but that’s a very low bar. It’s not like he’s suddenly done a 180. Saying he is greatly improved is a subjective eye test judgment. People can have differing opinions though on that.

People keep coming back to the rookie thing like he’s the only rookie defensemen. Why is every rookie dman not a -23? He’s got 3 points too. I standby what I said that there is no way the Blues thought that’s what they’d get out of him. We’ve all seen rookie dmen. I in no way said I expected him to be some world beater but he’s barely been productive at all.

I have 100% pointed out things I like about him (I did in the very post you quoted). I’ve also said his size and decent skating ability give him some tools. I’ve said I’m not writing him off. Not sure why my opinion, based on 1000s of games watched, played and reffed at all different levels, is something skewed by trolls because it’s different from yours and not rosy about him….

Who would you like me to single out? ASSOGG or the guy with the Pietrangelo Doll? That’s the company of people who are actively chastising the trade based on the earliest of returns.

Every mistake is scorched over with napalm. Every faux pa by a 3rd Line, 22 year old Defenseman is magnified for the purpose of trolling. They rationalize that no one should feel optimistic that his play has gotten better and his minutes have increased, because he could only move up. Those who actually provide stats and case studies are just HOMERS.

So what people reference Chris Pronger’s development. No one is claiming he’s Chris MF Pronger. It’s all about perspective. You call them Homers to effectively thumb your nose at people for treating entertainment with optimism.

I have no idea why rooting for a young player on the blues to succeed on a Blues Forum is a bad thing. It’s one bright spot to cling to during a disappointing season.

The improvement is evident. Why are you fighting it by siding with the trolls who desire nothing but contrarian takes for the sheer purpose of antagonizing others for attention?

[Harry S Deals]

Id keep Brayden Schenn, trade Faulk. Sign Luke Schenn as depth insurance on the RHD side. Let Parayko, Jiricek, Mailloux and Luke Schenn duke it out for the 3 RD spots.

[MiamiLaw]

Pro
1. Improvement is better than not improvement
2. As you say there's lots of projects going on so it's a throwaway season so of all times to learn, throwaway seasons at least it's not his fault

Con
1. we are talking about improvement from an abysmal baseline (see Kyrou, Jordan) and the improvement is still openly inadequate
2. more continued misjudgment from the front office on NHL defense in a situation where everyone correctly doubts them (they expected much better than whatever this still is)

100% couldn’t say it much better

thanks I almost referenced this summer's podcasting blues universe optimism that all homers jumped on. I was going to mention the Pronger thing because, while it's a hilarious self caricature of a homer comment to say that, I felt like it was in the rearview mirror

Nope, that is still around. dear lord, just a few posts up ... the pro Mailloux side just isn't trustworthy

Yea I feel the homer in people are causing them to see something that isn’t there. Yes Mailloux has improved because he almost literally had nowhere to go but up. He was statistically the worst player in the league for about half the season. Anyone who says this is the guy who the Blues thought they were getting is either lying to us or lying to themselves.

He did have a relatively strong rush later in the game last night where he skated out of trouble behind the net which was noticeable because I hadn’t seen much of it. It didn’t amount to anything but it was at least something.

Could he end up being a decent player? Sure. But this year has not done much to add any certainty to that in my opinion.

Serious question, but is it possible your initial assessment was completely out of scope for a 21 year old w/8 NHL Games under his belt in 2 years?

Maybe I just have more respect for Blues fans on this forum, because it’s been around for +20 years, has a lot of entrenched regulars, and very knowledgeable posters who are regularly commenting on the sport beyond the FanDuel broadcasts. However, when someone has to segregate their opinion from a mass of people by declaring them “Homers,” I start to question whether that person is actually capable of introspection.

- Logan Mailloux, 31st Pick in the 2021 Draft. 7th Defenseman taken.
- It’s WIDELY UNDERSTOOD Defenseman take a while to develop. We are constantly reminded of this when reflecting on Broberg, Mikola, Walman, Chris Pronger.
- Mailloux had 7 Games (16:12 ATOI) for MTL last year. No Playoffs, and was a -5
- Mailloux will turn 23 at the end of April.
- Broberg (Top 10 Pick, 3rd Defenseman) in Edmonton over that same age interval played in just 81 Games and was at 12:24 ATOI over the duration. Mailloux at 48, likely finishes around ~80.

No, I’m obviously not saying Mailloux is Broberg. However, I can’t rationalize what your expectations are and why you had them inflated in the first place? Finally, you can wave your finger at the “Homers,” but what I’m seeing from those rubes is optimism supported by factual data.

I think you’ve allowed the forum trolls to skew your mindset. It’s like this whole forum requires every RHD be measured to a former Top 5 pick, who was only available because the team couldn’t win games. Those things don’t grow on trees, and can’t simply be acquired for a 3rd Line Winger taken 17th Overall. Sometimes, we can assess the asset for exactly what it is without the self-flagellation.

Why single me out? I’m not the only one who is underwhelmed. Yes I do think that if Mailloux played for another team, people would not be saying he looks good.

You say that the facts support the optimism. What facts? His numbers are really bad. That’s a fact. 3 points, -23. He’s the 5th worst average game score in the league for the season on hockey stat cards. He is better than he was at the beginning, but that’s a very low bar. It’s not like he’s suddenly done a 180. Saying he is greatly improved is a subjective eye test judgment. People can have differing opinions though on that.

People keep coming back to the rookie thing like he’s the only rookie defensemen. Why is every rookie dman not a -23? He’s got 3 points too. I standby what I said that there is no way the Blues thought that’s what they’d get out of him. We’ve all seen rookie dmen. I in no way said I expected him to be some world beater but he’s barely been productive at all.

I have 100% pointed out things I like about him (I did in the very post you quoted). I’ve also said his size and decent skating ability give him some tools. I’ve said I’m not writing him off. Not sure why my opinion, based on 1000s of games watched, played and reffed at all different levels, is something skewed by trolls because it’s different from yours and not rosy about him….

Who would you like me to single out? ASSOGG or the guy with the Pietrangelo Doll? That’s the company of people who are actively chastising the trade based on the earliest of returns.

Every mistake is scorched over with napalm. Every faux pa by a 3rd Line, 22 year old Defenseman is magnified for the purpose of trolling. They rationalize that no one should feel optimistic that his play has gotten better and his minutes have increased, because he could only move up. Those who actually provide stats and case studies are just HOMERS.

So what people reference Chris Pronger’s development. No one is claiming he’s Chris MF Pronger. It’s all about perspective. You call them Homers to effectively thumb your nose at people for treating entertainment with optimism.

I have no idea why rooting for a young player on the blues to succeed on a Blues Forum is a bad thing. It’s one bright spot to cling to during a disappointing season.

The improvement is evident. Why are you fighting it by siding with the trolls who desire nothing but contrarian takes for the sheer purpose of antagonizing others for attention?

Regardless of what you think about bleeder or green grass, is seattleblue, clearly one of the most knowledgeable posters on prospects/young players here, a troll? His post is clearly saying what I am, that people are looking at LM through Blues-colored glasses. It is understandable, but to turn around and try to say that it is actually us - the people using objective stats - that are biased is a bit absurd.

Why do you think I am not rooting for him to succeed? Why do you think I hold people who are Blues fans and hopeful for him badly? I don't agree with them that's he's shown some kind of massive improvement, but so what? Do we all need to agree here? Even experts in every field - including hockey - can see wildly different things with the same set of info. It seems to me like you are just justifying this made up belief that I am biased or influenced by acting like me saying there is homerism here is some kind of 4-letter word.

The improvement is subjective but I never said it did not exist. You are setting up straw mans because they are easier to argue about. All I said was that, yes there was improvement, but it is improvement from a very poor level of play so there was really no where to go but up (or I guess just fall out of the league completely).

Sorry I am not convinced that he is going to be a solid contributor and that seems to irritate you. The Blues aren't either with their one year, league minimum deal. Maybe he will end up being solid and I will be happy about that. All I have ever said is that there is very little he has shown this year that has made me think it is more likely than it was a few months ago that he will get there.

[Old_Goat]

Id keep Brayden Schenn, trade Faulk. Sign Luke Schenn as depth insurance on the RHD side. Let Parayko, Jiricek, Mailloux and Luke Schenn duke it out for the 3 RD spots.

That really is an interesting thought. And save some cash/Cap in the process. (And move Kessel out.)

[Harry S Deals]

Pro
1. Improvement is better than not improvement
2. As you say there's lots of projects going on so it's a throwaway season so of all times to learn, throwaway seasons at least it's not his fault

Con
1. we are talking about improvement from an abysmal baseline (see Kyrou, Jordan) and the improvement is still openly inadequate
2. more continued misjudgment from the front office on NHL defense in a situation where everyone correctly doubts them (they expected much better than whatever this still is)

100% couldn’t say it much better

thanks I almost referenced this summer's podcasting blues universe optimism that all homers jumped on. I was going to mention the Pronger thing because, while it's a hilarious self caricature of a homer comment to say that, I felt like it was in the rearview mirror

Nope, that is still around. dear lord, just a few posts up ... the pro Mailloux side just isn't trustworthy

Yea I feel the homer in people are causing them to see something that isn’t there. Yes Mailloux has improved because he almost literally had nowhere to go but up. He was statistically the worst player in the league for about half the season. Anyone who says this is the guy who the Blues thought they were getting is either lying to us or lying to themselves.

He did have a relatively strong rush later in the game last night where he skated out of trouble behind the net which was noticeable because I hadn’t seen much of it. It didn’t amount to anything but it was at least something.

Could he end up being a decent player? Sure. But this year has not done much to add any certainty to that in my opinion.

Serious question, but is it possible your initial assessment was completely out of scope for a 21 year old w/8 NHL Games under his belt in 2 years?

Maybe I just have more respect for Blues fans on this forum, because it’s been around for +20 years, has a lot of entrenched regulars, and very knowledgeable posters who are regularly commenting on the sport beyond the FanDuel broadcasts. However, when someone has to segregate their opinion from a mass of people by declaring them “Homers,” I start to question whether that person is actually capable of introspection.

- Logan Mailloux, 31st Pick in the 2021 Draft. 7th Defenseman taken.
- It’s WIDELY UNDERSTOOD Defenseman take a while to develop. We are constantly reminded of this when reflecting on Broberg, Mikola, Walman, Chris Pronger.
- Mailloux had 7 Games (16:12 ATOI) for MTL last year. No Playoffs, and was a -5
- Mailloux will turn 23 at the end of April.
- Broberg (Top 10 Pick, 3rd Defenseman) in Edmonton over that same age interval played in just 81 Games and was at 12:24 ATOI over the duration. Mailloux at 48, likely finishes around ~80.

No, I’m obviously not saying Mailloux is Broberg. However, I can’t rationalize what your expectations are and why you had them inflated in the first place? Finally, you can wave your finger at the “Homers,” but what I’m seeing from those rubes is optimism supported by factual data.

I think you’ve allowed the forum trolls to skew your mindset. It’s like this whole forum requires every RHD be measured to a former Top 5 pick, who was only available because the team couldn’t win games. Those things don’t grow on trees, and can’t simply be acquired for a 3rd Line Winger taken 17th Overall. Sometimes, we can assess the asset for exactly what it is without the self-flagellation.

Why single me out? I’m not the only one who is underwhelmed. Yes I do think that if Mailloux played for another team, people would not be saying he looks good.

You say that the facts support the optimism. What facts? His numbers are really bad. That’s a fact. 3 points, -23. He’s the 5th worst average game score in the league for the season on hockey stat cards. He is better than he was at the beginning, but that’s a very low bar. It’s not like he’s suddenly done a 180. Saying he is greatly improved is a subjective eye test judgment. People can have differing opinions though on that.

People keep coming back to the rookie thing like he’s the only rookie defensemen. Why is every rookie dman not a -23? He’s got 3 points too. I standby what I said that there is no way the Blues thought that’s what they’d get out of him. We’ve all seen rookie dmen. I in no way said I expected him to be some world beater but he’s barely been productive at all.

I have 100% pointed out things I like about him (I did in the very post you quoted). I’ve also said his size and decent skating ability give him some tools. I’ve said I’m not writing him off. Not sure why my opinion, based on 1000s of games watched, played and reffed at all different levels, is something skewed by trolls because it’s different from yours and not rosy about him….

Who would you like me to single out? ASSOGG or the guy with the Pietrangelo Doll? That’s the company of people who are actively chastising the trade based on the earliest of returns.

Every mistake is scorched over with napalm. Every faux pa by a 3rd Line, 22 year old Defenseman is magnified for the purpose of trolling. They rationalize that no one should feel optimistic that his play has gotten better and his minutes have increased, because he could only move up. Those who actually provide stats and case studies are just HOMERS.

So what people reference Chris Pronger’s development. No one is claiming he’s Chris MF Pronger. It’s all about perspective. You call them Homers to effectively thumb your nose at people for treating entertainment with optimism.

I have no idea why rooting for a young player on the blues to succeed on a Blues Forum is a bad thing. It’s one bright spot to cling to during a disappointing season.

The improvement is evident. Why are you fighting it by siding with the trolls who desire nothing but contrarian takes for the sheer purpose of antagonizing others for attention?

Regardless of what you think about bleeder or green grass, is seattleblue, clearly one of the most knowledgeable posters on prospects/young players here, a troll? His post is clearly saying what I am, that people are looking at LM through Blues-colored glasses. It is understandable, but to turn around and try to say that it is actually us - the people using objective stats - that are biased is a bit absurd.

Why do you think I am not rooting for him to succeed? Why do you think I hold people who are Blues fans and hopeful for him badly? I don't agree with them that's he's shown some kind of massive improvement, but so what? Do we all need to agree here? Even experts in every field - including hockey - can see wildly different things with the same set of info. It seems to me like you are just justifying this made up belief that I am biased or influenced by acting like me saying there is homerism here is some kind of 4-letter word.

The improvement is subjective but I never said it did not exist. You are setting up straw mans because they are easier to argue about. All I said was that, yes there was improvement, but it is improvement from a very poor level of play so there was really no where to go but up (or I guess just fall out of the league completely).

Sorry I am not convinced that he is going to be a solid contributor and that seems to irritate you. The Blues aren't either with their one year, league minimum deal. Maybe he will end up being solid and I will be happy about that. All I have ever said is that there is very little he has shown this year that has made me think it is more likely than it was a few months ago that he will get there.

I dont think anyone unbiased is looking at Mailloux with anything more than what he is. A raw, green RHD prospect whos progressing. You can clearly see him getting more comfortable in the NHL. If you dont see that i am not sure what to say. No one overhyped him every one that commented said hes NHL ready, he will need time to develop. It makes no sense to send him back to the AHL hes already dominated down there.
Lets check back next year or so on this. There is no point hammering away on the same subject every night.
Still there is no way this trade is a bust or a loss or whatever at this point. Bolduc is a 3rd line depth guy so far who hasnt put it together yet. As was mentioned before the Blues have a laundry list of forwards they are extending they didnt need Bolduc and he probably wasnt bringing much more if at all back in a deal

[MiamiLaw]

I dont think anyone unbiased is looking at Mailloux with anything more than what he is. A raw, green RHD prospect whos progressing. You can clearly see him getting more comfortable in the NHL. If you dont see that i am not sure what to say. No one overhyped him every one that commented said hes NHL ready, he will need time to develop. It makes no sense to send him back to the AHL hes already dominated down there.
Lets check back next year or so on this. There is no point hammering away on the same subject every night.
Still there is no way this trade is a bust or a loss or whatever at this point. Bolduc is a 3rd line depth guy so far who hasnt put it together yet. As was mentioned before the Blues have a laundry list of forwards they are extending they didnt need Bolduc and he probably wasnt bringing much more if at all back in a deal

You yourself called him a stud before the season started. Army kind of oversold too by declaring him NHL ready before camp. It's all good but those go against what you are saying that he was not overhyped. None of that is effecting my view of him though. I watch him play. I form opinions. The stats generally seem to support what I am seeing. Very few (if anyone) are saying there have been NO improvements. If someone is, please point them out. Even the trade really does not factor into the equation for me at this point even if I didn't like it at the time. Two separate discussions now.

I am 100% happy to check back next year. The thread is called "Logan Mailloux" so I commented on it. It isn't like a I started the thread or anything.

[stlblue06]

The Mailloux is progressing crowd is funny. It would he impossible for him to not progress after what was an historically bad first 1-2 months of the season (statistically and eye test).

So now he’s just directly responsible for a few less goals against per game and still clueless on offense. I also love how saying we can’t count LM’s struggles because he’s so new to the NHL while they repeat Bolduc’s slightly off production in MTL this season. Not actually watching or factoring in that he’s on a team completely stacked of offensive players and they stuck him on the 3rd/4th line.

Simply looking at how disturbingly bad the Blues PP has been and remembering Bolduc scored what 7-10 PP goals in the last 2 months of the season.

[Harry S Deals]

I dont think anyone unbiased is looking at Mailloux with anything more than what he is. A raw, green RHD prospect whos progressing. You can clearly see him getting more comfortable in the NHL. If you dont see that i am not sure what to say. No one overhyped him every one that commented said hes NHL ready, he will need time to develop. It makes no sense to send him back to the AHL hes already dominated down there.
Lets check back next year or so on this. There is no point hammering away on the same subject every night.
Still there is no way this trade is a bust or a loss or whatever at this point. Bolduc is a 3rd line depth guy so far who hasnt put it together yet. As was mentioned before the Blues have a laundry list of forwards they are extending they didnt need Bolduc and he probably wasnt bringing much more if at all back in a deal

You yourself called him a stud before the season started. Army kind of oversold too by declaring him NHL ready before camp. It's all good but those go against what you are saying that he was not overhyped. None of that is effecting my view of him though. I watch him play. I form opinions. The stats generally seem to support what I am seeing. Very few (if anyone) are saying there have been NO improvements. If someone is, please point them out. Even the trade really does not factor into the equation for me at this point even if I didn't like it at the time. Two separate discussions now.

I am 100% happy to check back next year. The thread is called "Logan Mailloux" so I commented on it. It isn't like a I started the thread or anything.

Yep he played very well in camp and pre season games he is 100% NHL ready. He came in on a bad team, felt some stress and anxiety and failed at first no doubt. For me as the Blues if i wanted this kid to get his feet wet early i would have kept Suter or found some kind of solid veteran LHD to anchor the kid vs throwing him into the deep end. But yea he'll get there along with Dvorsky, Snuggerud, Stenberg, Hofer, Neighbours. It will come together

[Harry S Deals]

The Mailloux is progressing crowd is funny. It would he impossible for him to not progress after what was an historically bad first 1-2 months of the season (statistically and eye test).

So now he’s just directly responsible for a few less goals against per game and still clueless on offense. I also love how saying we can’t count LM’s struggles because he’s so new to the NHL while they repeat Bolduc’s slightly off production in MTL this season. Not actually watching or factoring in that he’s on a team completely stacked of offensive players and they stuck him on the 3rd/4th line.

Simply looking at how disturbingly bad the Blues PP has been and remembering Bolduc scored what 7-10 PP goals in the last 2 months of the season.

Bolduc is doing exactly what hes done his entire PRO career (AHL/NHL) minus his time under Monty. He hasnt done much at all. I still stand by the thought that he will at some point be a 20+ NHL goal guy but right now hes not that good after what, 160 NHL games played? Hes getting into "he is what he is" territory.

For the Blues, Snuggerud, Holloway, Neighbours, Stenberg, Dvorsky are all going to be getting paid or paid again and will all play this is the reality of why Bolduc was dealt. Plus now frankly i would rather have Berggren. And my guess is Bolduc wont be the last Blues kid dealt bc they all cant play

[MiamiLaw]

I dont think anyone unbiased is looking at Mailloux with anything more than what he is. A raw, green RHD prospect whos progressing. You can clearly see him getting more comfortable in the NHL. If you dont see that i am not sure what to say. No one overhyped him every one that commented said hes NHL ready, he will need time to develop. It makes no sense to send him back to the AHL hes already dominated down there.
Lets check back next year or so on this. There is no point hammering away on the same subject every night.
Still there is no way this trade is a bust or a loss or whatever at this point. Bolduc is a 3rd line depth guy so far who hasnt put it together yet. As was mentioned before the Blues have a laundry list of forwards they are extending they didnt need Bolduc and he probably wasnt bringing much more if at all back in a deal

You yourself called him a stud before the season started. Army kind of oversold too by declaring him NHL ready before camp. It's all good but those go against what you are saying that he was not overhyped. None of that is effecting my view of him though. I watch him play. I form opinions. The stats generally seem to support what I am seeing. Very few (if anyone) are saying there have been NO improvements. If someone is, please point them out. Even the trade really does not factor into the equation for me at this point even if I didn't like it at the time. Two separate discussions now.

I am 100% happy to check back next year. The thread is called "Logan Mailloux" so I commented on it. It isn't like a I started the thread or anything.

Yep he played very well in camp and pre season games he is 100% NHL ready. He came in on a bad team, felt some stress and anxiety and failed at first no doubt. For me as the Blues if i wanted this kid to get his feet wet early i would have kept Suter or found some kind of solid veteran LHD to anchor the kid vs throwing him into the deep end. But yea he'll get there along with Dvorsky, Snuggerud, Stenberg, Hofer, Neighbours. It will come together

I didn't watch camp but yea, I remember most saying his looked good so I have no problem there. But he was not NHL ready at the start of the regular season. He still has the lowest advanced stat aggregate in the league for a single game out of any player in any game this season, which came on October 15 in that 8-3 embarrassment the Blackhawks gave the Blues at home. So it hard for me to agree he was 100% NHL ready when he still this far into the year put up the worst single game performance in the league this season during that beginning stretch.

He may get there, but we obviously disagree on the likelihood of it. I still have a lot of worries about his decision making/instincts. They seem very subpar and that was always the knock on him. This has of course been a major blindspot for this organization as a whole lately. They seem to greatly favor physical tools to the complete neglect of hockey IQ. I can somewhat get the logic that execution can be coached while size/physical attributes can't, but it doesn't seem to be working out well. The Blues - including LM - are one of the lowest Hockey IQ teams I've ever seen and it has absolutely cost them dearly many many times this year.