List of non-roster ST invites

[WLTFE]

I guess I forgot JJW is already 23 YO.
It's time !

The fans need a spark of some kind...they can afford to let him struggle for awhile...they won't be competitive

[BrockFloodMaris]

Interesting that they don't want Doyle there for just the first couple of weeks before heading to the minor league camp... I know he will not be in the bigs this year, but thought they would let him come to the first part of ST...

I thought I read or heard Derrick Goold say something about bringing him along slowly and making sure he is working on his secondary pitches. I could have gotten that wrong, but that was my impression. I thought he also mentioned that he may start the year in A+. Sorry if that's wrong, but I swear I heard that on his podcast.

I think all college all stars need to play at least a year of pro ball before their MLB callup.

I think he should start in AA, I think that level's fine. But he should definitely focus on his secondaries.

Agree 100%

[Cardinals4Life]

Anyone of Thompson, Matthews, Packy , Henderson and of course JJ could make the 26 players opening day roster.

Just curious on why you think Henderson has a shot to make the team?
He hasn't pitched above AA.

[Carp4Cy]

I guess I forgot JJW is already 23 YO.
It's time !

Yep, he should have been up last year except for the 40 man roster games Mo insisted would be more valuable than JJ's development.

[Carp4Cy]

https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/st-louis-c ... g-training

Do any of these guys crack the OD roster?

My guess:

JJW
And 1 or 2 of the LHP for the pen.
(I'll go with Thompson and Packy/Schuster)

I hope JJ makes the ODR.

A couple of years ago, it appeared that Thompson had it figured out. Then injuries have derailed him. I am guessing this is his last chance. He is forgotten on this board and by almost everyone. But if he has recovered, he has high end stuff. He could be a dark horse for the rotation or at the very least the swingman. A potential upside surprise guy. In 2023 he struck out 72 in 66 IP. He also started 9 games and did OK. Lets see if he is ready to go and has anything left.

We've had some really useless first round picks in years past:
2013 Rob Kaminsky
2015 Nick Plummer
2016 Delvin Perez
2017 - Hackgate penalty
2019 Thompson
2022 Hjerpe
2023 Chase Davis
2020 - Walker, probably. still TDB I suppose.

[Strummer Jones]

Anyone of Thompson, Matthews, Packy , Henderson and of course JJ could make the 26 players opening day roster.

Just curious on why you think Henderson has a shot to make the team?
He hasn't pitched above AA.

I don't want to speak for the guy, but I guess it depends on how desperate we are for lefty bullpen help. Though for what it's worth, I don't want Henderson in the bullpen. He did well as a starter this year and deserves a shot to make it as a starter.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Anyone of Thompson, Matthews, Packy , Henderson and of course JJ could make the 26 players opening day roster.

Just curious on why you think Henderson has a shot to make the team?
He hasn't pitched above AA.

I don't want to speak for the guy, but I guess it depends on how desperate we are for lefty bullpen help. Though for what it's worth, I don't want Henderson in the bullpen. He did well as a starter this year and deserves a shot to make it as a starter.

Henderson to Memphis. The only minor leaguer that might have a chance at the rotation out of the gate is Mathews.

[Cardinals4Life]

Anyone of Thompson, Matthews, Packy , Henderson and of course JJ could make the 26 players opening day roster.

Just curious on why you think Henderson has a shot to make the team?
He hasn't pitched above AA.

I don't want to speak for the guy, but I guess it depends on how desperate we are for lefty bullpen help. Though for what it's worth, I don't want Henderson in the bullpen. He did well as a starter this year and deserves a shot to make it as a starter.

Agree. That would be the only way he would make it and I dont think they want to make him a Pen guy yet.

[Ozziesfan41]

Anyone of Thompson, Matthews, Packy , Henderson and of course JJ could make the 26 players opening day roster.

Just curious on why you think Henderson has a shot to make the team?
He hasn't pitched above AA.

I don't want to speak for the guy, but I guess it depends on how desperate we are for lefty bullpen help. Though for what it's worth, I don't want Henderson in the bullpen. He did well as a starter this year and deserves a shot to make it as a starter.

Agree. That would be the only way he would make it and I dont think they want to make him a Pen guy yet.

I don’t think bloom will make the same mistakes mo did and throw starters in the bullpen and screw up their development. I think the only way he does that is if he doesn’t view them as starters or if it’s toward the end of the season and they want to limit the amount of innings they pitch

[Cardinals4Life]

Anyone of Thompson, Matthews, Packy , Henderson and of course JJ could make the 26 players opening day roster.

Just curious on why you think Henderson has a shot to make the team?
He hasn't pitched above AA.

I don't want to speak for the guy, but I guess it depends on how desperate we are for lefty bullpen help. Though for what it's worth, I don't want Henderson in the bullpen. He did well as a starter this year and deserves a shot to make it as a starter.

Agree. That would be the only way he would make it and I dont think they want to make him a Pen guy yet.

I don’t think bloom will make the same mistakes mo did and throw starters in the bullpen and screw up their development. I think the only way he does that is if he doesn’t view them as starters or if it’s toward the end of the season and they want to limit the amount of innings they pitch

Yes, I agree.

[Strummer Jones]

Anyone of Thompson, Matthews, Packy , Henderson and of course JJ could make the 26 players opening day roster.

Just curious on why you think Henderson has a shot to make the team?
He hasn't pitched above AA.

I don't want to speak for the guy, but I guess it depends on how desperate we are for lefty bullpen help. Though for what it's worth, I don't want Henderson in the bullpen. He did well as a starter this year and deserves a shot to make it as a starter.

Henderson to Memphis. The only minor leaguer that might have a chance at the rotation out of the gate is Mathews.

I would agree with that, but to your point, I think Mathews still needs to prove that he can be successful in AAA. Maybe I'm being an old-head, but I still think AAA is an important level for players to master.

I think the talent level isn't much better at AAA than AA, but I think the mindset is important. I think in AA it's easy to let whatever natural talent you have just take over if you're one of those guys that's brimming with it. AAA talent might be slightly worse because they get fewer of those blue-chip guys nowadays, but you face a lot of guys who have been in the bigs and have that knowledge to draw on. If that makes sense. I'm not sure how to say what I want to say here.

[82birds]

Anyone of Thompson, Matthews, Packy , Henderson and of course JJ could make the 26 players opening day roster.

Just curious on why you think Henderson has a shot to make the team?
He hasn't pitched above AA.

I don't want to speak for the guy, but I guess it depends on how desperate we are for lefty bullpen help. Though for what it's worth, I don't want Henderson in the bullpen. He did well as a starter this year and deserves a shot to make it as a starter.

Henderson to Memphis. The only minor leaguer that might have a chance at the rotation out of the gate is Mathews.

I would agree with that, but to your point, I think Mathews still needs to prove that he can be successful in AAA. Maybe I'm being an old-head, but I still think AAA is an important level for players to master.

I think the talent level isn't much better at AAA than AA, but I think the mindset is important. I think in AA it's easy to let whatever natural talent you have just take over if you're one of those guys that's brimming with it. AAA talent might be slightly worse because they get fewer of those blue-chip guys nowadays, but you face a lot of guys who have been in the bigs and have that knowledge to draw on. If that makes sense. I'm not sure how to say what I want to say here.

actually, SJ, IMO you said it well.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Anyone of Thompson, Matthews, Packy , Henderson and of course JJ could make the 26 players opening day roster.

Just curious on why you think Henderson has a shot to make the team?
He hasn't pitched above AA.

I don't want to speak for the guy, but I guess it depends on how desperate we are for lefty bullpen help. Though for what it's worth, I don't want Henderson in the bullpen. He did well as a starter this year and deserves a shot to make it as a starter.

Henderson to Memphis. The only minor leaguer that might have a chance at the rotation out of the gate is Mathews.

I would agree with that, but to your point, I think Mathews still needs to prove that he can be successful in AAA. Maybe I'm being an old-head, but I still think AAA is an important level for players to master.

I think the talent level isn't much better at AAA than AA, but I think the mindset is important. I think in AA it's easy to let whatever natural talent you have just take over if you're one of those guys that's brimming with it. AAA talent might be slightly worse because they get fewer of those blue-chip guys nowadays, but you face a lot of guys who have been in the bigs and have that knowledge to draw on. If that makes sense. I'm not sure how to say what I want to say here.

I agree. I don't think Mathews will start the season in the rotation- he's just the only one who has a chance to.

[rage-STL]

Who can name this NRI from 2008?

[ilcubuffs]

Matt Koperniak (SP?) invited to ST. No doubt someone has logical explanation. 3 catchers invited?

[scoutyjones2]

Ixan!