2011 MLB payroll

[Goldfan]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

Can someone explain to me why it is 2026 and we have a lower payroll than 2011?

Sure

In today's dollars C4L that would equate to a 2026 payroll of approx. $151,000,000+.

I’ve researched and posted this previously. Since 2006 MLB National TV contract has 3x, Stl local TV has 2x, and Gameday prices have doubled. The 2006 team had a 89mil payroll. In MLB inflation terms a 180mil payroll is the progression.
Now there are issues with the local TV, but I anticipate MLB pooling most of that pot and it’s up to BDW to get his attendance back up over 3mil

[Ozziesfan41]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

Can someone explain to me why it is 2026 and we have a lower payroll than 2011?

Sure

In today's dollars C4L that would equate to a 2026 payroll of approx. $151,000,000+.

And also just because hollidays 16 million dollar salary would be worth 23 million or so today with the way baseball salaries have skyrocketed he would be making way more than 23 million he would be a 35 million dollar a year player At least carp would be a 40 million dollar pitcher

[rockondlouie]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

Can someone explain to me why it is 2026 and we have a lower payroll than 2011?

Sure

In today's dollars C4L that would equate to a 2026 payroll of approx. $151,000,000+.

I’ve researched and posted this previously. Since 2006 MLB National TV contract has 3x, Stl local TV has 2x, and Gameday prices have doubled. The 2006 team had a 89mil payroll. In MLB inflation terms a 180mil payroll is the progression.
Now there are issues with the local TV, but I anticipate MLB pooling most of that pot and it’s up to BDW to get his attendance back up over 3mil

I've heard every single team in MLB gets a national TV, MLB properties revenue sharing check for somewhere between $110-130M BEFORE they ever sell a ticket, baseball cap, parking fee or hot dog!

So before he ever sells a 2026 ticket, cap, ect........... Dewitt has his payroll more than covered!

[rockondlouie]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

Can someone explain to me why it is 2026 and we have a lower payroll than 2011?

Sure

In today's dollars C4L that would equate to a 2026 payroll of approx. $151,000,000+.

And also just because hollidays 16 million dollar salary would be worth 23 million or so today with the way baseball salaries have skyrocketed he would be making way more than 23 million he would be a 35 million dollar a year player At least carp would be a 40 million dollar pitcher

No doubt

And Albert would soon be a $75M player given 2011 was his walk season!

[Ozziesfan41]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

Can someone explain to me why it is 2026 and we have a lower payroll than 2011?

Sure

In today's dollars C4L that would equate to a 2026 payroll of approx. $151,000,000+.

And also just because hollidays 16 million dollar salary would be worth 23 million or so today with the way baseball salaries have skyrocketed he would be making way more than 23 million he would be a 35 million dollar a year player At least carp would be a 40 million dollar pitcher

No doubt

And Albert would soon be a $75M player given 2011 was his walk season!

For sure dodgers would probably sign him 4 years 400 million

[rockondlouie]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

Can someone explain to me why it is 2026 and we have a lower payroll than 2011?

Sure

In today's dollars C4L that would equate to a 2026 payroll of approx. $151,000,000+.

And also just because hollidays 16 million dollar salary would be worth 23 million or so today with the way baseball salaries have skyrocketed he would be making way more than 23 million he would be a 35 million dollar a year player At least carp would be a 40 million dollar pitcher

No doubt

And Albert would soon be a $75M player given 2011 was his walk season!

For sure dodgers would probably sign him 4 years 400 million

No doubt

It's insane to think what Albert would get after 2011 in todays market given he'd bring a:

Career
.326 .417 .614 1.031 slash
+ 469 HR's
+1397 RBI's
+ 3 MVP's
+ 2 Gold Glove
+ 2 WS Rings to the free agency table!

$1,000,000,000 for 10 years

[zuck698]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

Can someone explain to me why it is 2026 and we have a lower payroll than 2011?

Sure

In today's dollars C4L that would equate to a 2026 payroll of approx. $151,000,000+.

And also just because hollidays 16 million dollar salary would be worth 23 million or so today with the way baseball salaries have skyrocketed he would be making way more than 23 million he would be a 35 million dollar a year player At least carp would be a 40 million dollar pitcher

No doubt

And Albert would soon be a $75M player given 2011 was his walk season!

For sure dodgers would probably sign him 4 years 400 million

No doubt

It's insane to think what Albert would get after 2011 in todays market given he'd bring a:

Career
.326 .417 .614 1.031 slash
+ 469 HR's
+1397 RBI's
+ 3 MVP's
+ 2 Gold Glove
+ 2 WS Rings to the free agency table!

$1,000,000,000 for 10 years ::crazya::

I know you said that tongue in cheek Rock, but man, if Tucker can get $60 mil with his stats, I am not sure you are that far off at $100 mil for Albert.

[Goldfan]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

Can someone explain to me why it is 2026 and we have a lower payroll than 2011?

Sure

In today's dollars C4L that would equate to a 2026 payroll of approx. $151,000,000+.

And also just because hollidays 16 million dollar salary would be worth 23 million or so today with the way baseball salaries have skyrocketed he would be making way more than 23 million he would be a 35 million dollar a year player At least carp would be a 40 million dollar pitcher

No doubt

And Albert would soon be a $75M player given 2011 was his walk season!

For sure dodgers would probably sign him 4 years 400 million

No doubt

It's insane to think what Albert would get after 2011 in todays market given he'd bring a:

Career
.326 .417 .614 1.031 slash
+ 469 HR's
+1397 RBI's
+ 3 MVP's
+ 2 Gold Glove
+ 2 WS Rings to the free agency table!

$1,000,000,000 for 10 years

Come on fellas…..juiced balls and slow throwing pitchers back in the prehistoric days…..no way AP throws up those numbers
Now keep in mind I’m just parroting the same [nonsense] I get all the time when a discussion comes up about why today’s batters suck…..its the GREAT PITCHING

[Ozziesfan41]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

Can someone explain to me why it is 2026 and we have a lower payroll than 2011?

Sure

In today's dollars C4L that would equate to a 2026 payroll of approx. $151,000,000+.

And also just because hollidays 16 million dollar salary would be worth 23 million or so today with the way baseball salaries have skyrocketed he would be making way more than 23 million he would be a 35 million dollar a year player At least carp would be a 40 million dollar pitcher

No doubt

And Albert would soon be a $75M player given 2011 was his walk season!

For sure dodgers would probably sign him 4 years 400 million

No doubt

It's insane to think what Albert would get after 2011 in todays market given he'd bring a:

Career
.326 .417 .614 1.031 slash
+ 469 HR's
+1397 RBI's
+ 3 MVP's
+ 2 Gold Glove
+ 2 WS Rings to the free agency table!

$1,000,000,000 for 10 years

Come on fellas…..juiced balls and slow throwing pitchers back in the prehistoric days…..no way AP throws up those numbers
Now keep in mind I’m just parroting the same [nonsense] I get all the time when a discussion comes up about why today’s batters suck…..its the GREAT PITCHING

Well I guess if Aaron judge hits the way he does he would hit 100 home runs back in Albert pujols day and ohtani would hit 90 home runs lol and Raleigh would have hit at least 80 then huh? Why do you think pujols wouldn’t be an elite hitter today?

[Rojo Johnson]

What I want to know is whether Dee Dee’s legs are darn near completely covered with tats and how much those tats cost in 2006 vs 2026.

[earp]

manager

[ScotchMIrish]

2006 and 2011 are examples of why you try to make the playoffs and then go on a run. People who said we shouldn't have added in July when we were 5 games over .500 I disagree with. First you make the playoffs. Then you try to win it all.

[Ozziesfan41]

2006 and 2011 are examples of why you try to make the playoffs and then go on a run. People who said we shouldn't have added in July when we were 5 games over .500 I disagree with. First you make the playoffs. Then you try to win it all.

lol to compare the 2006 and 2011 teams to last years team is crazy

[renostl]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

Spending half of what the very top of the market does can still occasionally find success, occasionally.
What has to occur though is complete team health of the key players. It also doesn't work most of the time.
2026 compare may be AZ vs LAD. What has to happen for AZ to be good enough to beat LAD in the fall?

We are also not getting as complete of a picture of payroll differences when an Ohtani is counted
as a $28M/yr player and signed for 10/$700M.

Does percentages work as well as the absolute numbers? It probably does but it seems different.

ie IF a team spends $100M more that can buy X in plan B's along with the
higher priced star power. The lower spending team has to have cheaper stars or they
wouldn't be in contention, and far less on their plan B. The spending gap is $100M
AZ is #11 in spending in 2026 for a 40 man. With $200 million more to spend on players
to get to LAD level what could they have bought? They'd still have cheap players
in Marte, Carroll, Perdomo, and Moreno similar to the make-up of that 2011 team.

[Voldemort]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

How many WS Championships have the Cardinals had since those salary differentials?

[Goldfan]

N.Y. Yankees $201,689,030
Philadelphia Phillies $172,976,381
Boston Red Sox $161,407,476
L.A. Angels $138,998,524
Chicago White Sox $129,285,539
Chicago Cubs $125,480,664
N.Y. Mets $120,147,310
San Francisco Giants $118,216,333
Minnesota Twins $112,737,000
Detroit Tigers $105,705,232
St. Louis Cardinals $105,433,572

Can someone explain how the Cards won the WS with the Yankees doubling their payroll that season?? And Philly 70% higher….and Red Sox 60% higher???

How many WS Championships have the Cardinals had since those salary differentials?

I have and will argue that its much less to do with salary differentials than it is organizational incompetence since the last WS win