Bluesfan1978 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026 09:40 am
Based on he’s probably the best defender in the team. He can rush the puck like no other D in the team and he’s yet to get any substantial PP time. If he ends up a 30 point plus player a year he’s worth 8 million.
Rushes that don’t amount to anything substantial and good defensive work don’t get guys paid.
They put themselves in a position to overpay him now, because they overpaid that initial contract.
When he’s reached his ceiling, and he’s close to that now, they’ll deserve every bit of the criticism they’re going to receive for that contract.
Now, I could be wrong, and I hope to be. But I haven’t been wrong so far.
I predicted Buch would flame out based on his history, I predicted what we’d get out of Neighbors. I predicted the Kyrou situation and I predicted this roster bottoming out do to poor character and construction.
I MIGHT have whiffed on the Jiricek thing, but I’ve been correct on a lot. It’s taken a while to come to fruition; but that’s just my ability to predict and evaluate coming to the forefront. I told you all, I know more about hockey than anyone on this forum. It only took a 9 month suspension for you all to see the light.
Well for a guy who just magnificently "wiffed" so recently maybe just give it a rest and let him play.
Or join the clown and keep at it ad nauseam as you are.
Broberg is also only 1/2 way through his second full season and Mailloux is a rookie. 2-3 years from now these guys will be much closer to their potential
Bluesfan1978 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026 16:45 pm
Broberg is also only 1/2 way through his second full season and Mailloux is a rookie. 2-3 years from now these guys will be much closer to their potential
Mailloux is a career minor leaguer like Skinner or Rosen. That trade is going to haunt Army.
I’m not sure where he tops out but I’ll personally give him a year or two before deciding what his ceiling is. He looks much better the last few games than he did all year.
Bluesfan1978 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026 16:45 pm
Broberg is also only 1/2 way through his second full season and Mailloux is a rookie. 2-3 years from now these guys will be much closer to their potential
Mailloux is a career minor leaguer like Skinner or Rosen. That trade is going to haunt Army.
Bluesfan1978 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026 16:45 pm
Broberg is also only 1/2 way through his second full season and Mailloux is a rookie. 2-3 years from now these guys will be much closer to their potential
Mailloux is a career minor leaguer like Skinner or Rosen. That trade is going to haunt Army.
LOL
Something funny? He’s bad. People need to quit making excuses for him. No clue on offense at the NHL level.
Bluesfan1978 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026 16:45 pm
Broberg is also only 1/2 way through his second full season and Mailloux is a rookie. 2-3 years from now these guys will be much closer to their potential
Mailloux is a career minor leaguer like Skinner or Rosen. That trade is going to haunt Army.
LOL
Something funny? He’s bad. People need to quit making excuses for him. No clue on offense at the NHL level.
I fear we’ll feel about Broberg as many of us do about Parayko: a lot of unfulfilled potential. Parayko has the size, speed, strength and skating ability to be a perennial all-star. What we saw in the Stanley Cup run, was a totally different Colton Parayko. He was a beast. He dominated in the corners and along the boards and in the crease. Unfortunately, we’ve seen little of that Parayko. The same is true of Broberg. He and Parayko should be hard to play against. They’re not.
The Blues transition game suffers because they need all 5 skaters below the dots. That’s because their defensemen can get the puck, can’t take it away or keep it from the other team. My understanding is Armstrong and Steen are scouting the skating championships this weekend for their next #1 draft pick.
Red7 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026 21:53 pm
I fear we’ll feel about Broberg as many of us do about Parayko: a lot of unfulfilled potential. Parayko has the size, speed, strength and skating ability to be a perennial all-star. What we saw in the Stanley Cup run, was a totally different Colton Parayko. He was a beast. He dominated in the corners and along the boards and in the crease. Unfortunately, we’ve seen little of that Parayko. The same is true of Broberg. He and Parayko should be hard to play against. They’re not.
The Blues transition game suffers because they need all 5 skaters below the dots. That’s because their defensemen can get the puck, can’t take it away or keep it from the other team. My understanding is Armstrong and Steen are scouting the skating championships this weekend for their next #1 draft pick.
I mean you can't say that blanket of a statement and not be kidding yourself a bit. Parayko last season was a no doubt top 10 defensemen in the league before he went down. People were saying his defensive play was top 5 in the league and the only reason he wouldn't receive the votes was because he doesn't put up those gaudy offensive numbers that the big time guys in the league do now. But you ask conor mcdavid who is the best pure defenders in the leauge, you aren't getting further than 5 names before you hear Parayko's name. He has been very adamant that Parayko is a problem because he is so good with his length and speed.
Broberg does present some questions. I don't disagree with your worry about him being back injury parayko. That could definitely happen. Where you have the guy that looks the part but is just a middle of the road guy. What I worry about Broberg isn't about his skating and exiting the puck. He has shown that he can do that with the best in the league. What I worry is that his shot doesn't look like it has really any jam so from an offensive standpoint, he will always be a nothing. You don't have to have a good shot to be a good offensive dman. But you have to be able to place pucks to high danger situations so your forwards can make deflections or rebounds off low pad saves etc etc.. I haven't seen either of these things from his game yet.
The other possible question mark is how vocal he can really be. Schenner says everybody loves broberg and thats why he went into the fight because he is a high character guy. But when you see neighbours or Holloway, equally young guys get way more animated, you hope to see some of that out of your "star defensemen." In fact, the coolest thing about LM is that he will dump a guy who is being obnoxious. Good trait to have for a young guy on defense with size.
somni wrote: ↑10 Jan 2026 20:24 pm
He leads the team in TOI. Right now, he's a 1st pairing defenseman. Is he the #1? Yet to be determined.
No doubt he would've gotten $9M in the offseason. Good signing.
It’s crazy how good he’s been this year. The definition of consistency. Almost always making the smart/correct play in the defensive zone and is extremely good without the puck.
His stick checks/lifts are effortless and makes his lack of physical play a non issue. If the forwards would score a little then his points and +/- would be so much better. He is even on a team with the worst goal differential in the league by a mile.
Red7 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026 21:53 pm
I fear we’ll feel about Broberg as many of us do about Parayko: a lot of unfulfilled potential. Parayko has the size, speed, strength and skating ability to be a perennial all-star. What we saw in the Stanley Cup run, was a totally different Colton Parayko. He was a beast. He dominated in the corners and along the boards and in the crease. Unfortunately, we’ve seen little of that Parayko. The same is true of Broberg. He and Parayko should be hard to play against. They’re not.
The Blues transition game suffers because they need all 5 skaters below the dots. That’s because their defensemen can get the puck, can’t take it away or keep it from the other team. My understanding is Armstrong and Steen are scouting the skating championships this weekend for their next #1 draft pick.
I mean you can't say that blanket of a statement and not be kidding yourself a bit. Parayko last season was a no doubt top 10 defensemen in the league before he went down. People were saying his defensive play was top 5 in the league and the only reason he wouldn't receive the votes was because he doesn't put up those gaudy offensive numbers that the big time guys in the league do now. But you ask conor mcdavid who is the best pure defenders in the leauge, you aren't getting further than 5 names before you hear Parayko's name. He has been very adamant that Parayko is a problem because he is so good with his length and speed.
Broberg does present some questions. I don't disagree with your worry about him being back injury parayko. That could definitely happen. Where you have the guy that looks the part but is just a middle of the road guy. What I worry about Broberg isn't about his skating and exiting the puck. He has shown that he can do that with the best in the league. What I worry is that his shot doesn't look like it has really any jam so from an offensive standpoint, he will always be a nothing. You don't have to have a good shot to be a good offensive dman. But you have to be able to place pucks to high danger situations so your forwards can make deflections or rebounds off low pad saves etc etc.. I haven't seen either of these things from his game yet.
The other possible question mark is how vocal he can really be. Schenner says everybody loves broberg and thats why he went into the fight because he is a high character guy. But when you see neighbours or Holloway, equally young guys get way more animated, you hope to see some of that out of your "star defensemen." In fact, the coolest thing about LM is that he will dump a guy who is being obnoxious. Good trait to have for a young guy on defense with size.
A defenseman on this team can place lots of shots in high danger areas and come away with next to no points. For that matter, so can the forwards.
Red7 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026 21:53 pm
I fear we’ll feel about Broberg as many of us do about Parayko: a lot of unfulfilled potential. Parayko has the size, speed, strength and skating ability to be a perennial all-star. What we saw in the Stanley Cup run, was a totally different Colton Parayko. He was a beast. He dominated in the corners and along the boards and in the crease. Unfortunately, we’ve seen little of that Parayko. The same is true of Broberg. He and Parayko should be hard to play against. They’re not.
The Blues transition game suffers because they need all 5 skaters below the dots. That’s because their defensemen can get the puck, can’t take it away or keep it from the other team. My understanding is Armstrong and Steen are scouting the skating championships this weekend for their next #1 draft pick.
I mean you can't say that blanket of a statement and not be kidding yourself a bit. Parayko last season was a no doubt top 10 defensemen in the league before he went down. People were saying his defensive play was top 5 in the league and the only reason he wouldn't receive the votes was because he doesn't put up those gaudy offensive numbers that the big time guys in the league do now. But you ask conor mcdavid who is the best pure defenders in the leauge, you aren't getting further than 5 names before you hear Parayko's name. He has been very adamant that Parayko is a problem because he is so good with his length and speed.
Broberg does present some questions. I don't disagree with your worry about him being back injury parayko. That could definitely happen. Where you have the guy that looks the part but is just a middle of the road guy. What I worry about Broberg isn't about his skating and exiting the puck. He has shown that he can do that with the best in the league. What I worry is that his shot doesn't look like it has really any jam so from an offensive standpoint, he will always be a nothing. You don't have to have a good shot to be a good offensive dman. But you have to be able to place pucks to high danger situations so your forwards can make deflections or rebounds off low pad saves etc etc.. I haven't seen either of these things from his game yet.
The other possible question mark is how vocal he can really be. Schenner says everybody loves broberg and thats why he went into the fight because he is a high character guy. But when you see neighbours or Holloway, equally young guys get way more animated, you hope to see some of that out of your "star defensemen." In fact, the coolest thing about LM is that he will dump a guy who is being obnoxious. Good trait to have for a young guy on defense with size.
A defenseman on this team can place lots of shots in high danger areas and come away with next to no points. For that matter, so can the forwards.
I hear that, but in the last 2 seasons, I haven't really seen him show the ability to get the puck thru traffic from the blue line. He's really good when he finds himself around the net. But you are only going to have so many of those opportunities as a defender. It's why I was really hoping for Perunovich to have that extra gear in him. He's the only Blue we have ever that was really good at skating the blue line horizontally with speed. You can create a lot of different looks for your team if you can make with pace at that spot. Granted there are only a handful of guys in the league that do that well.
Red7 wrote: ↑11 Jan 2026 21:53 pm
I fear we’ll feel about Broberg as many of us do about Parayko: a lot of unfulfilled potential. Parayko has the size, speed, strength and skating ability to be a perennial all-star. What we saw in the Stanley Cup run, was a totally different Colton Parayko. He was a beast. He dominated in the corners and along the boards and in the crease. Unfortunately, we’ve seen little of that Parayko. The same is true of Broberg. He and Parayko should be hard to play against. They’re not.
The Blues transition game suffers because they need all 5 skaters below the dots. That’s because their defensemen can get the puck, can’t take it away or keep it from the other team. My understanding is Armstrong and Steen are scouting the skating championships this weekend for their next #1 draft pick.
I mean you can't say that blanket of a statement and not be kidding yourself a bit. Parayko last season was a no doubt top 10 defensemen in the league before he went down. People were saying his defensive play was top 5 in the league and the only reason he wouldn't receive the votes was because he doesn't put up those gaudy offensive numbers that the big time guys in the league do now. But you ask conor mcdavid who is the best pure defenders in the leauge, you aren't getting further than 5 names before you hear Parayko's name. He has been very adamant that Parayko is a problem because he is so good with his length and speed.
Broberg does present some questions. I don't disagree with your worry about him being back injury parayko. That could definitely happen. Where you have the guy that looks the part but is just a middle of the road guy. What I worry about Broberg isn't about his skating and exiting the puck. He has shown that he can do that with the best in the league. What I worry is that his shot doesn't look like it has really any jam so from an offensive standpoint, he will always be a nothing. You don't have to have a good shot to be a good offensive dman. But you have to be able to place pucks to high danger situations so your forwards can make deflections or rebounds off low pad saves etc etc.. I haven't seen either of these things from his game yet.
The other possible question mark is how vocal he can really be. Schenner says everybody loves broberg and thats why he went into the fight because he is a high character guy. But when you see neighbours or Holloway, equally young guys get way more animated, you hope to see some of that out of your "star defensemen." In fact, the coolest thing about LM is that he will dump a guy who is being obnoxious. Good trait to have for a young guy on defense with size.
A defenseman on this team can place lots of shots in high danger areas and come away with next to no points. For that matter, so can the forwards.
I hear that, but in the last 2 seasons, I haven't really seen him show the ability to get the puck thru traffic from the blue line. He's really good when he finds himself around the net. But you are only going to have so many of those opportunities as a defender. It's why I was really hoping for Perunovich to have that extra gear in him. He's the only Blue we have ever that was really good at skating the blue line horizontally with speed. You can create a lot of different looks for your team if you can make with pace at that spot. Granted there are only a handful of guys in the league that do that well.
The Blues are moving toward new and younger players. It's going to take time for them to realize their full potential. I tend, I believe, to look at the bigger picture. Where and how were the Blues going to come up with a better prospect than Broberg? A player today with his projected potential? How does he compare to other young defensemen? Well? He's clearly got more potential than any young defenseman in the system other than Jiricek. He's getting good reviews around the league. He passes the eye test on everything but Bortuzzo style toughness (even Pietrangelo didn't register there). That's all. He's a good player who I hope will not be held back by concussion issues.
DawgDad wrote: ↑12 Jan 2026 12:13 pm
The Blues are moving toward new and younger players. It's going to take time for them to realize their full potential. I tend, I believe, to look at the bigger picture. Where and how were the Blues going to come up with a better prospect than Broberg? A player today with his projected potential? How does he compare to other young defensemen? Well? He's clearly got more potential than any young defenseman in the system other than Jiricek. He's getting good reviews around the league. He passes the eye test on everything but Bortuzzo style toughness (even Pietrangelo didn't register there). That's all. He's a good player who I hope will not be held back by concussion issues.
NHL players have spoken about how dirty/nasty pietrangelo was to play against. He was a fierce competitor and warrior. He’s a Blues legend. For a guy who says he sees he sees the big picture … I guess you whiffed on that
