Orioles interested in JoJo

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Because he's your best lefty reliever. They could be competitive if they bump the payroll back up and add some quality pitching. Nado was awful last year but he has no real trade value. Give him a chance at resurgence, he deserves that. If he does well and you're out of contention then you could always deal him at the trading deadline. No one can say that they couldn't compete for a playoff spot, but dealing your best players kind of makes the point moot.

We tried that already last year. Remember? He has been declining for a few years, we couldn't trade him, he didn't have any resurgence during the season he was even worse last year than the year before, and couldn't be dealt at the trade deadline.

[rockondlouie]

R. Helsley
A. Kittridge

Might as well keep adding former Cardinals RP's and add JoJo too.

[12xu]

You will get nothing of the sort and like it

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[Ozziesfan41]

Because he's your best lefty reliever. They could be competitive if they bump the payroll back up and add some quality pitching. Nado was awful last year but he has no real trade value. Give him a chance at resurgence, he deserves that. If he does well and you're out of contention then you could always deal him at the trading deadline. No one can say that they couldn't compete for a playoff spot, but dealing your best players kind of makes the point moot.

We tried that already last year. Remember? He has been declining for a few years, we couldn't trade him, he didn't have any resurgence during the season he was even worse last year than the year before, and couldn't be dealt at the trade deadline.

I’m kind of indifferent on trading arenado if they had someone good or even decent to replace him I would say have to trade him but all it does is give Gorman another year to suck and he sucks at hitting and fielding at least arenado is good at fielding

[Ronnie Dobbs]

I’m kind of indifferent on trading arenado if they had someone good or even decent to replace him I would say have to trade him but all it does is give Gorman another year to suck and he sucks at hitting and fielding at least arenado is good at fielding

Understood. To me, though, my priority is getting Gorman ABs now matter how bad he sucks. You gotta know if he’ll ever be anything and I don’t want to be playing the game of benching him or moving him between 2B and 3B because you have Arenado in the lineup and can’t sit him.

[Ozziesfan41]

I’m kind of indifferent on trading arenado if they had someone good or even decent to replace him I would say have to trade him but all it does is give Gorman another year to suck and he sucks at hitting and fielding at least arenado is good at fielding

Understood. To me, though, my priority is getting Gorman ABs now matter how bad he sucks. You gotta know if he’ll ever be anything and I don’t want to be playing the game of benching him or moving him between 2B and 3B because you have Arenado in the lineup and can’t sit him.

If they haven’t figured out by now he won’t be anything they are too slow to ever figure it out they will just keep running him out there year after year to continue to suck

[CCard]

Because he's your best lefty reliever. They could be competitive if they bump the payroll back up and add some quality pitching. Nado was awful last year but he has no real trade value. Give him a chance at resurgence, he deserves that. If he does well and you're out of contention then you could always deal him at the trading deadline. No one can say that they couldn't compete for a playoff spot, but dealing your best players kind of makes the point moot.

We tried that already last year. Remember? He has been declining for a few years, we couldn't trade him, he didn't have any resurgence during the season he was even worse last year than the year before, and couldn't be dealt at the trade deadline.

And so then you dump him. But that still doesn't mitigate trading your best lefty reliever and arguably your best reliever out of the pen. But the object isn't to compete and win obviously or they would be adding to the team instead of decimating it.

[WaltsSuccessor]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/12/ ... omero.html

I'll take one of these, please:

Juaron Watts‑Brown (RHP, Double‑A/Triple‑A track)
Acquired from Toronto for Domínguez; power slider/whiff profile; age 23.

Projects as a rotation‑capable arm with swing‑and‑miss stuff; aligns with Cards’ need for controllable pitching depth.
Acquisition note: Came as a single‑prospect return in a high‑leverage RP deal; Orioles valued him as a top‑10 org prospect post‑trade. [si.com],



Boston Bateman (LHP, Padres deal)
Part of the Padres package for Laureano/O’Hearn; top‑10 org prospect.

Lefty starter profile with upside; complements a system light on high‑ceiling left‑handed starting prospects.
Acquisition note: Headliner among multiple prospects O’s received at the deadline. Also has a dope name

Orioles finished in last place. Shouldn’t they be rebuilding? How does JoJo help them get to the playoffs out of the AL East?

Have you not seen all of the other moves they made?

It still won’t get them past the Yankees or Blue Jays. Or probably even the Red Sox. Meanwhile, if the Cardinals would make those kinds of investments, it would get us a lot further most years in the NL Central.

Perhaps not. But they made the WC in 2024 and had the best record in baseball in 2023. Far cry from the Card's performance those years.

They had a major step back in 2025 yes, but their young core is still intact but not getting younger (and soon to be more expensive). Their window is now. Maybe it's already halfway shut, but they have to go for it now. Hitting reset after one blip season would be silly.

Last offseason, their fatal flaw was patchworking their rotation. So far, they've done better but probably still another move arm away from contending in that division.

Toronto was a millimeter away from a WS win this year, and they came in last in 2024.

[AnExParrot]

Quick! Let's trade our best lefty reliever! Got to cut that salary. We can always find a warm body to give up runs and guarantee the team loses.

They wont be competitive this year or next (possible lockout) most likely, why keep him? Package him with Nado and get at least something of value.

Because he's your best lefty reliever. They could be competitive if they bump the payroll back up and add some quality pitching. Nado was awful last year but he has no real trade value. Give him a chance at resurgence, he deserves that. If he does well and you're out of contention then you could always deal him at the trading deadline. No one can say that they couldn't compete for a playoff spot, but dealing your best players kind of makes the point moot.

He "deserves" it? Why does he deserve it? The only thing he's owed is money.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

[Carp4Cy]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/12/ ... omero.html

I'll take one of these, please:

Juaron Watts‑Brown (RHP, Double‑A/Triple‑A track)
Acquired from Toronto for Domínguez; power slider/whiff profile; age 23.

Projects as a rotation‑capable arm with swing‑and‑miss stuff; aligns with Cards’ need for controllable pitching depth.
Acquisition note: Came as a single‑prospect return in a high‑leverage RP deal; Orioles valued him as a top‑10 org prospect post‑trade. [si.com],



Boston Bateman (LHP, Padres deal)
Part of the Padres package for Laureano/O’Hearn; top‑10 org prospect.

Lefty starter profile with upside; complements a system light on high‑ceiling left‑handed starting prospects.
Acquisition note: Headliner among multiple prospects O’s received at the deadline. Also has a dope name

Orioles finished in last place. Shouldn’t they be rebuilding? How does JoJo help them get to the playoffs out of the AL East?

Have you not seen all of the other moves they made?

It still won’t get them past the Yankees or Blue Jays. Or probably even the Red Sox. Meanwhile, if the Cardinals would make those kinds of investments, it would get us a lot further most years in the NL Central.

Perhaps not. But they made the WC in 2024 and had the best record in baseball in 2023. Far cry from the Card's performance those years.

They had a major step back in 2025 yes, but their young core is still intact but not getting younger (and soon to be more expensive). Their window is now. Maybe it's already halfway shut, but they have to go for it now. Hitting reset after one blip season would be silly.

Last offseason, their fatal flaw was patchworking their rotation. So far, they've done better but probably still another move arm away from contending in that division.

Toronto was a millimeter away from a WS win this year, and they came in last in 2024.

Baltimore's 2025 seems akin to our 2023. We lost Pujols and Yadi, replaced them with Willson and yet every returning player got simultaneously worse. We had a team that was 90% of the way there - if we had a better manager, and BDW just made one or two more correct trades to finish the job, maybe that team goes a LOT further in 22. I blame Oli most of all for losing game 1, and then it was over in a short series.

But then in 2023, Mo refuses to fire Oli, he comes out and throws TO under the bus on April 6, kills morale, and the season never recovers.

The O's fired their manager. We refused to fire Oli after either the 2022 playoffs OR the 2023 debacle and instead gave him an extension. Missed opportunities all around in the Cards organization, and it starts at the top of on field operations.

[CCard]

Quick! Let's trade our best lefty reliever! Got to cut that salary. We can always find a warm body to give up runs and guarantee the team loses.

They wont be competitive this year or next (possible lockout) most likely, why keep him? Package him with Nado and get at least something of value.

Because he's your best lefty reliever. They could be competitive if they bump the payroll back up and add some quality pitching. Nado was awful last year but he has no real trade value. Give him a chance at resurgence, he deserves that. If he does well and you're out of contention then you could always deal him at the trading deadline. No one can say that they couldn't compete for a playoff spot, but dealing your best players kind of makes the point moot.

He "deserves" it? Why does he deserve it? The only thing he's owed is money.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

That's a hall of fame player you're talking about, not some nitwit. Who's going to replace him that's as good as he is defensively? If anyone on this team deserves to have another shot, it's him.

[AnExParrot]

Quick! Let's trade our best lefty reliever! Got to cut that salary. We can always find a warm body to give up runs and guarantee the team loses.

They wont be competitive this year or next (possible lockout) most likely, why keep him? Package him with Nado and get at least something of value.

Because he's your best lefty reliever. They could be competitive if they bump the payroll back up and add some quality pitching. Nado was awful last year but he has no real trade value. Give him a chance at resurgence, he deserves that. If he does well and you're out of contention then you could always deal him at the trading deadline. No one can say that they couldn't compete for a playoff spot, but dealing your best players kind of makes the point moot.

He "deserves" it? Why does he deserve it? The only thing he's owed is money.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

That's a hall of fame player you're talking about, not some nitwit. Who's going to replace him that's as good as he is defensively? If anyone on this team deserves to have another shot, it's him.

Again, deserve's got nothing to do with it. He isn't living up to his contract and hasn't for 2 full seasons, and you want to give him another? And you're here every day saying you want the team to win?

He put up Ozzie Smith's career OPS, .666, in '25 and as good as his defense is, it ain't good enough to put up Ozzie numbers with the bat and stay on the field.

If he's HoF already he should just retire today and get there sooner.

[CCard]

Quick! Let's trade our best lefty reliever! Got to cut that salary. We can always find a warm body to give up runs and guarantee the team loses.

They wont be competitive this year or next (possible lockout) most likely, why keep him? Package him with Nado and get at least something of value.

Because he's your best lefty reliever. They could be competitive if they bump the payroll back up and add some quality pitching. Nado was awful last year but he has no real trade value. Give him a chance at resurgence, he deserves that. If he does well and you're out of contention then you could always deal him at the trading deadline. No one can say that they couldn't compete for a playoff spot, but dealing your best players kind of makes the point moot.

He "deserves" it? Why does he deserve it? The only thing he's owed is money.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

That's a hall of fame player you're talking about, not some nitwit. Who's going to replace him that's as good as he is defensively? If anyone on this team deserves to have another shot, it's him.

Again, deserve's got nothing to do with it. He isn't living up to his contract and hasn't for 2 full seasons, and you want to give him another? And you're here every day saying you want the team to win?

He put up Ozzie Smith's career OPS, .666, in '25 and as good as his defense is, it ain't good enough to put up Ozzie numbers with the bat and stay on the field.

If he's HoF already he should just retire today and get there sooner.

Again, if you have a better alternative then let it be known. Is there a better defensive 3rd baseman on the roster? Put up or shut up.

[AnExParrot]

Quick! Let's trade our best lefty reliever! Got to cut that salary. We can always find a warm body to give up runs and guarantee the team loses.

They wont be competitive this year or next (possible lockout) most likely, why keep him? Package him with Nado and get at least something of value.

Because he's your best lefty reliever. They could be competitive if they bump the payroll back up and add some quality pitching. Nado was awful last year but he has no real trade value. Give him a chance at resurgence, he deserves that. If he does well and you're out of contention then you could always deal him at the trading deadline. No one can say that they couldn't compete for a playoff spot, but dealing your best players kind of makes the point moot.

He "deserves" it? Why does he deserve it? The only thing he's owed is money.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

That's a hall of fame player you're talking about, not some nitwit. Who's going to replace him that's as good as he is defensively? If anyone on this team deserves to have another shot, it's him.

Again, deserve's got nothing to do with it. He isn't living up to his contract and hasn't for 2 full seasons, and you want to give him another? And you're here every day saying you want the team to win?

He put up Ozzie Smith's career OPS, .666, in '25 and as good as his defense is, it ain't good enough to put up Ozzie numbers with the bat and stay on the field.

If he's HoF already he should just retire today and get there sooner.

Again, if you have a better alternative then let it be known. Is there a better defensive 3rd baseman on the roster? Put up or shut up.

It simply doesn't matter if there is or not - the team was bad with him, they can be bad without him and his price tag.

[CCard]

Quick! Let's trade our best lefty reliever! Got to cut that salary. We can always find a warm body to give up runs and guarantee the team loses.

They wont be competitive this year or next (possible lockout) most likely, why keep him? Package him with Nado and get at least something of value.

Because he's your best lefty reliever. They could be competitive if they bump the payroll back up and add some quality pitching. Nado was awful last year but he has no real trade value. Give him a chance at resurgence, he deserves that. If he does well and you're out of contention then you could always deal him at the trading deadline. No one can say that they couldn't compete for a playoff spot, but dealing your best players kind of makes the point moot.

He "deserves" it? Why does he deserve it? The only thing he's owed is money.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

That's a hall of fame player you're talking about, not some nitwit. Who's going to replace him that's as good as he is defensively? If anyone on this team deserves to have another shot, it's him.

Again, deserve's got nothing to do with it. He isn't living up to his contract and hasn't for 2 full seasons, and you want to give him another? And you're here every day saying you want the team to win?

He put up Ozzie Smith's career OPS, .666, in '25 and as good as his defense is, it ain't good enough to put up Ozzie numbers with the bat and stay on the field.

If he's HoF already he should just retire today and get there sooner.

Again, if you have a better alternative then let it be known. Is there a better defensive 3rd baseman on the roster? Put up or shut up.

It simply doesn't matter if there is or not - the team was bad with him, they can be bad without him and his price tag.

So you're saying that DeWitt's pockets are more important than putting the best player at a position in an effort to win? Are you hearing yourself?

[AnExParrot]

Quick! Let's trade our best lefty reliever! Got to cut that salary. We can always find a warm body to give up runs and guarantee the team loses.

They wont be competitive this year or next (possible lockout) most likely, why keep him? Package him with Nado and get at least something of value.

Because he's your best lefty reliever. They could be competitive if they bump the payroll back up and add some quality pitching. Nado was awful last year but he has no real trade value. Give him a chance at resurgence, he deserves that. If he does well and you're out of contention then you could always deal him at the trading deadline. No one can say that they couldn't compete for a playoff spot, but dealing your best players kind of makes the point moot.

He "deserves" it? Why does he deserve it? The only thing he's owed is money.

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

That's a hall of fame player you're talking about, not some nitwit. Who's going to replace him that's as good as he is defensively? If anyone on this team deserves to have another shot, it's him.

Again, deserve's got nothing to do with it. He isn't living up to his contract and hasn't for 2 full seasons, and you want to give him another? And you're here every day saying you want the team to win?

He put up Ozzie Smith's career OPS, .666, in '25 and as good as his defense is, it ain't good enough to put up Ozzie numbers with the bat and stay on the field.

If he's HoF already he should just retire today and get there sooner.

Again, if you have a better alternative then let it be known. Is there a better defensive 3rd baseman on the roster? Put up or shut up.

It simply doesn't matter if there is or not - the team was bad with him, they can be bad without him and his price tag.

So you're saying that DeWitt's pockets are more important than putting the best player at a position in an effort to win? Are you hearing yourself?

No, the only person concerned with DeWitt's pockets is you, and that's because you think you're entitled to input on how he spends his money. I'm concerned with payroll only in that wasting it on player's like an age compromised Arenado hurts the team in more ways than on-field (lack of)production.