Either you know stuff or you don’t….I’ll stand by my record.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:24 amRelax fella.... Try not to act like you know stuff. There is no evidence yet.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:04 amYou mean Mathews, McGreevy, Thomson, Hence, Rom, Roby haven’t been adequate “hope for the future” the last couple years?? Now we have a different crop of mostly middling or oft injured bodies to dream of Cy Youngs…..hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:59 amThey are all suspects until they advance. But you have to have something to work with to reach the finish line. Having enough farm arms has been our issue for years.... I don't believe that is true any more.zoiks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:50 amYou're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:
Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita
Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!![]()
Boston stockpile of elite pitching prospects
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Re: Boston stockpile of elite pitching prospects
LOL....I've got a bridge for sale.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:
Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita
Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!
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You described Chris Carpenter to a T with the underlined above when we signed him. Who knows what might turn out. But, you gotta have a good arm to take a chance on in the first place.... I tried to look up your record....Got nothing.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:33 amEither you know stuff or you don’t….I’ll stand by my record.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:24 amRelax fella.... Try not to act like you know stuff. There is no evidence yet.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:04 amYou mean Mathews, McGreevy, Thomson, Hence, Rom, Roby haven’t been adequate “hope for the future” the last couple years?? Now we have a different crop of mostly middling or oft injured bodies to dream of Cy Youngs…..hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:59 amThey are all suspects until they advance. But you have to have something to work with to reach the finish line. Having enough farm arms has been our issue for years.... I don't believe that is true any more.zoiks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:50 amYou're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:
Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita
Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!![]()
Re: Boston stockpile of elite pitching prospects
Predicting failure in baseball is easy and those who do it will have a good record.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 12:48 pmYou described Chris Carpenter to a T with the underlined above when we signed him. Who knows what might turn out. But, you gotta have a good arm to take a chance on in the first place.... I tried to look up your record....Got nothing.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:33 amEither you know stuff or you don’t….I’ll stand by my record.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:24 amRelax fella.... Try not to act like you know stuff. There is no evidence yet.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:04 amYou mean Mathews, McGreevy, Thomson, Hence, Rom, Roby haven’t been adequate “hope for the future” the last couple years?? Now we have a different crop of mostly middling or oft injured bodies to dream of Cy Youngs…..hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:59 amThey are all suspects until they advance. But you have to have something to work with to reach the finish line. Having enough farm arms has been our issue for years.... I don't believe that is true any more.zoiks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:50 amYou're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:
Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita
Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!![]()
Predicting failure of prospects is even easier.
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Re: Boston stockpile of elite pitching prospects
BINGO huge!hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 12:48 pmYou described Chris Carpenter to a T with the underlined above when we signed him. Who knows what might turn out. But, you gotta have a good arm to take a chance on in the first place.... I tried to look up your record....Got nothing.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:33 amEither you know stuff or you don’t….I’ll stand by my record.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:24 amRelax fella.... Try not to act like you know stuff. There is no evidence yet.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:04 amYou mean Mathews, McGreevy, Thomson, Hence, Rom, Roby haven’t been adequate “hope for the future” the last couple years?? Now we have a different crop of mostly middling or oft injured bodies to dream of Cy Youngs…..hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:59 amThey are all suspects until they advance. But you have to have something to work with to reach the finish line. Having enough farm arms has been our issue for years.... I don't believe that is true any more.zoiks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:50 amYou're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:
Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita
Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!![]()
Carpenter had a significant shoulder injury (torn labrum) that sidelined him for the entire 2003 season, but St. Louis took a chance on him, rehabbed him, and was rewarded when he became their ace and won the Cy Young in 2005. --espn
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I wasn’t posting here then. And Carp was a successful ML pitcher. Not the same.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 12:48 pmYou described Chris Carpenter to a T with the underlined above when we signed him. Who knows what might turn out. But, you gotta have a good arm to take a chance on in the first place.... I tried to look up your record....Got nothing.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:33 amEither you know stuff or you don’t….I’ll stand by my record.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:24 amRelax fella.... Try not to act like you know stuff. There is no evidence yet.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:04 amYou mean Mathews, McGreevy, Thomson, Hence, Rom, Roby haven’t been adequate “hope for the future” the last couple years?? Now we have a different crop of mostly middling or oft injured bodies to dream of Cy Youngs…..hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:59 amThey are all suspects until they advance. But you have to have something to work with to reach the finish line. Having enough farm arms has been our issue for years.... I don't believe that is true any more.zoiks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:50 amYou're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:
Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita
Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!![]()
Re: Boston stockpile of elite pitching prospects
None of the pitchers the Cardinals have acquired have anything resembling the stuff Carpenter had before the Cardinals signed him. He was a 15th overall draft pick and already had several seasons of MLB experience. The Cardinals got Carpenter because back then ownership was willing to spend money, so they paid Carpenter for a year while he rehabbed his shoulder. Ownership is no longer willing to spend, so they’re now selling a “rebuild” to the mouth breathing fans. The current state of the starting rotation and lineup has to be the worst for the Cardinals to start a season in decades, if not ever.
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Posted in another thread but also pertains to this.
What really stood out to me is Cards lack of prospect depth compared to Boston.
They said Yhoiker Fajardo was Red Sox 29th ranked prospect and he is now the Cards 9th ranked prospect.
What really stood out to me is Cards lack of prospect depth compared to Boston.
They said Yhoiker Fajardo was Red Sox 29th ranked prospect and he is now the Cards 9th ranked prospect.
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That is some happy horse chit. He isn't even the Cards 9th pitching prospect.
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Shhhhh.....don’t tell him but:hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:24 amRelax fella.... Try not to act like you know stuff. There is no evidence yet.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 11:04 amYou mean Mathews, McGreevy, Thomson, Hence, Rom, Roby haven’t been adequate “hope for the future” the last couple years?? Now we have a different crop of mostly middling or oft injured bodies to dream of Cy Youngs…..hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:59 amThey are all suspects until they advance. But you have to have something to work with to reach the finish line. Having enough farm arms has been our issue for years.... I don't believe that is true any more.zoiks wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 10:50 amYou're mistaking several pitching prospects/suspects for "elite pitching prospects".Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 09:23 am How many elite pitching prospects did Boston have to be able to, SO FAR, trade or lose:
Clarke
Fitts
May
Dobbins
Farardo
Aita
Certainly they didn’t give away all their Best pitching prospects…..so that means they have more???
Absolutely astounding to have that much talent in one org!!![]()
McGreevy is already in the rotation.
Mathews could very well be soon?
Thompson, Hence, Roby, and Rom have all been held back due mostly to injuries.
Again......shhhhh......don’t want to interrupt his posts with facts!
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I never said Cards 9th pitching prospect. He is their 9th rated prospect per MLB.com.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 17:19 pmThat is some happy horse chit. He isn't even the Cards 9th pitching prospect.
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Batting 1.000 this offseason…..Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 21:24 pmKatie Woo
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Priceless
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Not sure how to help you understand. Fangraph says we are the best farm system in MLB. Isn't your hypothesis that this minor league pitcher "so low on the Red Sox farm" and so high on ours preposterous?CardsBest wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 18:55 pmI never said Cards 9th pitching prospect. He is their 9th rated prospect per MLB.com.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑22 Dec 2025 17:19 pmThat is some happy horse chit. He isn't even the Cards 9th pitching prospect.
To clarify who and what was actually said, here is a quote from TCN:
P.S. If he isn't the 9th best pitching prospect in the Cardinal farm, how can he be the 9th rated prospect?Fajardo, age 19, ended his 2025 season with the Red Sox Single-A affiliate in Salem. He made four starts, posting a record of 0-1 with a 0.44 ERA. He was the Red Sox’ no. 9 prospect for 2026 according to Baseball America.