So far the Cards have done nothing but dump salary

[Web7]

Yawn

[Cardinals1964]

Except Weby is almost always right …. I told you 10 years ago Mo was ruining this franchise and of course, I was attacked for saying that ….. this is a salary dump…… They are not getting anything to build around… Maybe the lefty in the first trade… But he is far from a sure thing… Wake up people this is not going to be fixed for a very long time unless they start spending money

“Bloom is trading for players I’ve never heard of and don’t know anything about! That means the trades are bad!”

We (drat) sure are not getting top prospects

How many times have the Cardinals top prospects worked out? When was the last time their 1st round pick became a true start? Ted Simmons?

[BleedingBleu]

Trying to compete ever year is exactly what got the Cardinals into the lukewarm years we endured. If you don't have unlimited funds (which still doesn't work for many teams), sometimes you gotta go through a rebuild period.
The Sonny Gray trade was a good bet. If May plays well, we might be able to flip him at the deadline for a top prospect.

I would say philosophically going from a stance of attracting Hall of Fame bound managers to in-house options, with zero qualifying credentials because the nerds in the boxes arrogant thought they knew better, was more likely the problem.

Again, we used to go after guys like Whitey, Joe Torre, & Tony LaRussa. Then, we strayed away from Terry Francona for HS Coaches, guys who never played professionally, and whatever you want to consider Oli Marmol.

Francona, who had multiple World Series titles under his belt and today is only 66, would go onto manage the Indians through one of Cleveland’s best periods of baseball. In his first year w/the Reds, he steered them into the playoffs after their worst stretch as a franchise, where they missed the playoffs 10/11 years

[BleedingBleu]

Unloaded some bad contracts……

and you are opposed to this because???

We just don’t have the trash cans to pull off the results

[BleedingBleu]

Except Weby is almost always right …. I told you 10 years ago Mo was ruining this franchise and of course, I was attacked for saying that ….. this is a salary dump…… They are not getting anything to build around… Maybe the lefty in the first trade… But he is far from a sure thing… Wake up people this is not going to be fixed for a very long time unless they start spending money

10 years ago, they won 100 Games. Then they’d add Paul Goldschmidt who had a spectacular career including a MVP, Nolan Arenado for a sack of potatoes, and even bring back Albert Pujols for one of the most epic send-offs in baseball history.

Are you trying to suggest that you predicted COVID, too? The season before COVID struck saw them in the NLCS, losing to the eventual World Series Champion.

[Web7]

Except Weby is almost always right …. I told you 10 years ago Mo was ruining this franchise and of course, I was attacked for saying that ….. this is a salary dump…… They are not getting anything to build around… Maybe the lefty in the first trade… But he is far from a sure thing… Wake up people this is not going to be fixed for a very long time unless they start spending money

10 years ago, they won 100 Games. Then they’d add Paul Goldschmidt who had a spectacular career including a MVP, Nolan Arenado for a sack of potatoes, and even bring back Albert Pujols for one of the most epic send-offs in baseball history.

Are you trying to suggest that you predicted COVID, too? The season before COVID struck saw them in the NLCS, losing to the eventual World Series Champion.

Thanks for showing us your hobby of cherry picking…..

[BleedingBleu]

Except Weby is almost always right …. I told you 10 years ago Mo was ruining this franchise and of course, I was attacked for saying that ….. this is a salary dump…… They are not getting anything to build around… Maybe the lefty in the first trade… But he is far from a sure thing… Wake up people this is not going to be fixed for a very long time unless they start spending money

10 years ago, they won 100 Games. Then they’d add Paul Goldschmidt who had a spectacular career including a MVP, Nolan Arenado for a sack of potatoes, and even bring back Albert Pujols for one of the most epic send-offs in baseball history.

Are you trying to suggest that you predicted COVID, too? The season before COVID struck saw them in the NLCS, losing to the eventual World Series Champion.

Thanks for showing us your hobby of cherry picking…..

I wasn’t the one trying to claim the franchise was being ruined ahead of a 100-win campaign. Maybe you should have cherry-picked your data better?

[Braund241]

They are no longer a major league organization. They are the Pirates in St. Louis.

[Web7]

Except Weby is almost always right …. I told you 10 years ago Mo was ruining this franchise and of course, I was attacked for saying that ….. this is a salary dump…… They are not getting anything to build around… Maybe the lefty in the first trade… But he is far from a sure thing… Wake up people this is not going to be fixed for a very long time unless they start spending money

10 years ago, they won 100 Games. Then they’d add Paul Goldschmidt who had a spectacular career including a MVP, Nolan Arenado for a sack of potatoes, and even bring back Albert Pujols for one of the most epic send-offs in baseball history.

Are you trying to suggest that you predicted COVID, too? The season before COVID struck saw them in the NLCS, losing to the eventual World Series Champion.

Thanks for showing us your hobby of cherry picking…..

I wasn’t the one trying to claim the franchise was being ruined ahead of a 100-win campaign. Maybe you should have cherry-picked your data better?

This team has not won a second round playoff game in like nine years…… But yeah, everything is just fine…… Gotta love a loser mentality

[Goldfan]

Except Weby is almost always right …. I told you 10 years ago Mo was ruining this franchise and of course, I was attacked for saying that ….. this is a salary dump…… They are not getting anything to build around… Maybe the lefty in the first trade… But he is far from a sure thing… Wake up people this is not going to be fixed for a very long time unless they start spending money

“Bloom is trading for players I’ve never heard of and don’t know anything about! That means the trades are bad!”

We (drat) sure are not getting top prospects

How many times have the Cardinals top prospects worked out? When was the last time their 1st round pick became a true start? Ted Simmons?

Now you’re getting Down to the nitty gritty….I’ve asked several times here
When was the last time in modern Cards history when this REBUILD process has taken place and succeeded??
The answer is NEVER. All CARDS winning has been through acquiring outside ML talent through trades or FA
But it’s a good tale for the sheep I suppose. The Great BLOOM will accomplish what has NEVER BEEN done BEFORE……watch us for 2,3,4,5,yrs
Really as long as takes…..because it might not work the first attempt…..

[BleedingBleu]

Except Weby is almost always right …. I told you 10 years ago Mo was ruining this franchise and of course, I was attacked for saying that ….. this is a salary dump…… They are not getting anything to build around… Maybe the lefty in the first trade… But he is far from a sure thing… Wake up people this is not going to be fixed for a very long time unless they start spending money

10 years ago, they won 100 Games. Then they’d add Paul Goldschmidt who had a spectacular career including a MVP, Nolan Arenado for a sack of potatoes, and even bring back Albert Pujols for one of the most epic send-offs in baseball history.

Are you trying to suggest that you predicted COVID, too? The season before COVID struck saw them in the NLCS, losing to the eventual World Series Champion.

Thanks for showing us your hobby of cherry picking…..

I wasn’t the one trying to claim the franchise was being ruined ahead of a 100-win campaign. Maybe you should have cherry-picked your data better?

This team has not won a second round playoff game in like nine years…… But yeah, everything is just fine…… Gotta love a loser mentality

I never said they did.

There’s a very big difference when going from regular playoff contender to regular Top 10 Draft Pick recipient.

The team was highly competitive throughout the first part of the decade you claimed they were swirling around the drain. Then you want to imagine COVID didn’t impacted the Cardinals.

I’m not arguing whether Mozeliak’s personnel decisions and business moves were adequate enough to win a World Series. That’s not the argument. You claimed ruinous before the Cardinals even acquired Goldschmidt!