Dodgers' Luxury Tax

[opti mist]

$169 million.

More than the Cardinals' entire parole. $153 million.

Opti

[WeeVikes]

$169 million.

More than the Cardinals' entire parole. $153 million.

Opti

Man, the Cardinals have been some bad, bad boys!

[opti mist]

Payroll.

[Mort Gage]

$169 million.

More than the Cardinals' entire parole. $153 million.

Opti

Man, the Cardinals have been some bad, bad boys!

[Rosie's Rule]

How many team’s payrolls exceeded the Dodgers luxury tax?

[opti mist]

Well, the luxury tax exceeded the payroll of 12 teams.

Opti

[Poojols]

Yes, baseball is broken. The only people who refuse that fact are either fans of those few large markets or complete idiots.

[juan good eye]

There are currently 14 teams with payrolls > $200M.

The Cards will need to be in that group once BDW starts spending again with hopes of *seriously* competing. Major changes to the next CBA notwithstanding.

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[Jatalk]

$169 million.

More than the Cardinals' entire parole. $153 million.

Opti

They pay the tax because of all the star power on the team. The interesting question is how much revenue would they lose without the star power. Sure it’s a huge market but I think the revenue loss would be significant.

[bretto12]

The difference is not star power, it is population base. The Dodgers make more in local TV money than the Card's do from all sources. The team had a bad year and the "Cardinal Fans" stopped going to the games. The best fans in baseball deserted their team. At least 20 of the MLB teams can not spend like the Dodgers. What the players need to realize is that if they allow a payroll cap and floor, they will still get their money. It just won't be in NY or LA.
They may get their 25 million a year in KC or Minnesota, but they will still get it and the competition created by balanced salaries will lead to more teams competing and that means more TV money and packed stadiums which will generate even more money for salaries.

[Jatalk]

The difference is not star power, it is population base. The Dodgers make more in local TV money than the Card's do from all sources. The team had a bad year and the "Cardinal Fans" stopped going to the games. The best fans in baseball deserted their team. At least 20 of the MLB teams can not spend like the Dodgers. What the players need to realize is that if they allow a payroll cap and floor, they will still get their money. It just won't be in NY or LA.
They may get their 25 million a year in KC or Minnesota, but they will still get it and the competition created by balanced salaries will lead to more teams competing and that means more TV money and packed stadiums which will generate even more money for salaries.

You’re right about Tv. But think beyond that. What is the most popular baseball cap in Japan? Dodgers or Cardinals?

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

$169 million.

More than the Cardinals' entire parole. $153 million.

Opti

They pay the tax because of all the star power on the team. The interesting question is how much revenue would they lose without the star power. Sure it’s a huge market but I think the revenue loss would be significant.

They got a steal on Ohtani.

[Ike Hammett]

Yes, baseball is broken. The only people who refuse that fact are either fans of those few large markets or complete idiots.

No, it's the opposite! Dodgers fans showed up 4 million strong, root like crazy ( in a fun and happy way) people love their players and management, love baseball and pay big bucks to see it.

The system isn't really that broken, you "best fans in baseball" are. Yeah, Cards could definitely use a TV deal like that.

[makesnosense]

The difference is not star power, it is population base. The Dodgers make more in local TV money than the Card's do from all sources. The team had a bad year and the "Cardinal Fans" stopped going to the games. The best fans in baseball deserted their team. At least 20 of the MLB teams can not spend like the Dodgers. What the players need to realize is that if they allow a payroll cap and floor, they will still get their money. It just won't be in NY or LA.
They may get their 25 million a year in KC or Minnesota, but they will still get it and the competition created by balanced salaries will lead to more teams competing and that means more TV money and packed stadiums which will generate even more money for salaries.

The difference is most certainly star power. The Dodgers and other big market teams offer so much more than salary and a chance to win. I'm not trying to start an argument or defend the current salary gap. But Minnesota and KC will have to offer more salary than La or NY because of less of an opportunity for outside income.

[Jatalk]

$169 million.

More than the Cardinals' entire parole. $153 million.

Opti

They pay the tax because of all the star power on the team. The interesting question is how much revenue would they lose without the star power. Sure it’s a huge market but I think the revenue loss would be significant.

They got a steal on Ohtani.

They got a smart player thinking about financial future and agreed to defer. Then they have a smart front office to structure the deal within the rules.

I’m not a Dodger fan and I’m 100% behind a salary cap and floor. But Dodger management has run circles around the rest of the league.

[cardstatman]

Yes, baseball is broken. The only people who refuse that fact are either fans of those few large markets or complete idiots.

No, it's the opposite! Dodgers fans showed up 4 million strong, root like crazy ( in a fun and happy way) people love their players and management, love baseball and pay big bucks to see it.

The system isn't really that broken, you "best fans in baseball" are. Yeah, Cards could definitely use a TV deal like that.

Dodgers drew 4 million in an area of maybe 14M to 18M people with a peaking team.

Cardinals drew 2.5 million in an area of maybe 3M people with a cratering team. Okay, be honest, it was 2.5M tickets but 1.5M people .

This huge difference shows up most strongly in Monday to Thursday games... which is around half of the games.
Working people aren't often going drive over an hour to attend a weeknight game.
They would watch on TV, but MLB is rarely on TV outside of St Louis unless you pay for a package.