How different would we feel about this team…

[casher]

Being the best during the regular season has often meant nothing for the blues. Getting hot at the right time like 2019 or even last year when they blew it is their way of doing it. Id rather see them float around wildcard spots and come together then have a dominant regular season team that consistently fails like the 2010s

[Harry S Deals]

I wouldn't equate Berggren to Vrana by the way

[hockey jedi]

I am more concerned about how we look on the ice more than points or playoff position. Something is wrong with our system, and it's been wrong since the start of the season. On offense, we are pretty predictable. We work to get the puck in the slot, but we are terrible finishing in the slot. On defense, we are careless with the puck in our d-zone. Too many no-look passes, square passes across the ice, and soft clear passes have led to many turnovers in our zone.

[theograce]

I am more concerned about how we look on the ice more than points or playoff position.

It’s like some people here don’t watch top teams play.

[stlblue06]

I am more concerned about how we look on the ice more than points or playoff position.

It’s like some people here don’t watch top teams play.

You are concerned about how a team looks that has been missing over 1/3 of their starting forward group for the past 3 weeks??

When their goaltending stabilized (thanks to extremely good team defense) around a week into November through the end of November with a healthy lineup….the Blues went 5-2-5. That’s 5 games over .500 with just 2 OTWs out of 5.

I’ve honestly thought the Blues have looked really good in most games they’ve played in December with a bunch of journeymen and ahl guys. The worst games were 4 very bad goaltending performances. The rest was building a culture of hard work, stingy defense, and goaltending.

Once they get healthy they will start scoring and once they start scoring this team COULD take off.

[theograce]

I am more concerned about how we look on the ice more than points or playoff position.

It’s like some people here don’t watch top teams play.

You are concerned about how a team looks that has been missing over 1/3 of their starting forward group for the past 3 weeks??

When their goaltending stabilized (thanks to extremely good team defense) around a week into November through the end of November with a healthy lineup….the Blues went 5-2-5. That’s 5 games over .500 with just 2 OTWs out of 5.

I’ve honestly thought the Blues have looked really good in most games they’ve played in December with a bunch of journeymen and ahl guys. The worst games were 4 very bad goaltending performances. The rest was building a culture of hard work, stingy defense, and goaltending.

Once they get healthy they will start scoring and once they start scoring this team COULD take off.

Watch good teams

[PPG]

The facts are the facts. When the Blues were healthy they were not very good.
I do watch a lot of hockey and it is so rwfreshing, while at the samr time being vety depressing to watch the difference between the Blues and teams like Colorado, Dallas, Winnipeg, Florida, etc.
The Blues have the fewest goals per game and the most goals against.
Not talking about total goals. Do the simple math.
Their Goals Per Game and their Goals Against per game are Dead Last. When is the last time a team was Dead Last in both categories. No wonder they have By Far the worst goal differential in the league.
And dont use injuries as an excuse. That's for losers.
Florida is missing theit 2 best players and keep winning.
Bottom line- this is such a fragile team mentally, that they simply do Not handle adversity of any kind with any composure.
As a result they have still not recovered from game 7 last Spring.
Until they remove some core pieces, nothing will change.
Who those pieces are, remains to be seen....

[dhsux]

Bottom line- this is such a fragile team mentally, that they simply do Not handle adversity of any kind with any composure.
As a result they have still not recovered from game 7 last Spring.
Until they remove some core pieces, nothing will change.

You were doing fine with facts until you got to these 3 lines of editorial comment.....none of them actually factual but opinion.

[PPG]

Well that's what this is- an opinion board and a forum to exchange thoughts and ideas.
And the Blues ARE a weak team mentally. Why do they constantly struggle with protecting one goal leads, especially late in games??
And on the rare occasion they do hold on, it's only because the other team missed a couple of golden opportunities to tie the game.
You watch the good teams and how they protect a lead late in the game. They don't sit back and let their opponent just walk right in. They actually are disciplined and structured and win puck battles AND don't panic with the puck and take needless icing calls when there is time and space to simply clear the puck out of the zone....
The eye test doesn't lie, along with obvious facts..
This isn't rocket science, is it??

[Old_Goat]

No offense but I hate these arguments.

Good teams survive the ups and downs of luck, momentum, whatever you want to call it. Bad teams get buried by luck.

The blues are a bad team.

Draw out whatever conclusions you want about the circumstances, but the fact of the matter is this team put themselves exactly in situations where luck, bounces, injuries, momentum, refs, insert whatever, was insurmountable.

We aren’t doing a hypothetical of some games where they could have easily won if they got that save or didn’t hit that post, ext. We are doing a hypothetical on a still very new way to award the very important extra point that has been available when there is a tie after 3 periods of play.

We of course know that there used to be a tie with 1 point each up until around 2000 (I think). First there was 4 on 4, then they added the SO after there wasn’t enough goals. Then they added this 3 on 3 shatshow in the 2015-16 season. We are not even 10 years into this thing and it’s very clear it is not close to “real hockey”, especially with pass back/retreat and 2 line passes being allowed.

It’s very much ok to think of how we would feel if didn’t have a historically bad 0-8 start this season

Well I don't want to hijack this thread too much, but I'll take this opportunity to comment on How different would we feel about the GAMES...
It's not that I want to live in the past, but you are totally correct about the 3-on-3 pond hockey followed by the shootout. It seems like the league was desperate to add a thrill with more scoring (maybe just tighten more-so the dimensions on goalie equipment...you can do that while still protecting the goalies' body.) And then the league realized after Oshie captivated at Sochi...hey we could really have something here with shootouts.
So, a team - actually both teams - play great for 60 minutes and it ends in a tie. Oh well, they both get rewarded, or possibly disappointed. But it's a go for it for a full 60 minutes if you are desperate. Now it's, let's just go for the one point.
I get the if there is no overtime, you could play fantastic and close to the end the other team gets a goal to win and you get nothing...so what, that's sports? If you want to add another commercial and 5 minutes, okay everybody keeps going hard at both ends and if it ends tied, then the fans win. If you're the better team, then you're likely to succeed more often. The point is it's a full game of REAL hockey. That's the way the playoffs are.
It is fruitless during the regular season to worry about scores ending in a tie. If they played real hockey as teams and it's even at the end, then they both get the same reward. And you obviously cannot have multiple long periods of overtime in a regular season for all kinds of reasons.
In summary, I cannot stand the 3-on-3 overtime nor the shootouts. Our outlook about the current state of the Blues might not change, but the standings might reflect something else, something more realistic?

[MikoTython]

I am more concerned about how we look on the ice more than points or playoff position.

It’s like some people here don’t watch top teams play.

You are concerned about how a team looks that has been missing over 1/3 of their starting forward group for the past 3 weeks??

When their goaltending stabilized (thanks to extremely good team defense) around a week into November through the end of November with a healthy lineup….the Blues went 5-2-5. That’s 5 games over .500 with just 2 OTWs out of 5.

I’ve honestly thought the Blues have looked really good in most games they’ve played in December with a bunch of journeymen and ahl guys. The worst games were 4 very bad goaltending performances. The rest was building a culture of hard work, stingy defense, and goaltending.

Once they get healthy they will start scoring and once they start scoring this team COULD take off.

I've been off-the-charts busy all Fall and not able to do much following. This take, in view of the others, is why this forum is interesting - so many ways to interpret what is before most of our eyes. I'm on vaycay now, so will be tuning in - sounds like, at any rate, the G/T has firmed up, which always has a huge impact. LGB !

[blackinkbiz]

I am more concerned about how we look on the ice more than points or playoff position.

It’s like some people here don’t watch top teams play.

You are concerned about how a team looks that has been missing over 1/3 of their starting forward group for the past 3 weeks??

When their goaltending stabilized (thanks to extremely good team defense) around a week into November through the end of November with a healthy lineup….the Blues went 5-2-5. That’s 5 games over .500 with just 2 OTWs out of 5.

I’ve honestly thought the Blues have looked really good in most games they’ve played in December with a bunch of journeymen and ahl guys. The worst games were 4 very bad goaltending performances. The rest was building a culture of hard work, stingy defense, and goaltending.

Once they get healthy they will start scoring and once they start scoring this team COULD take off.

Watch good teams

Most people have lives and/or jobs. Most people have kids and/or families. Most don't live off their parents and/or government assistance, therefore don't have time to watch NHL all day and stare at their spreadsheet of logins, IP addresses, personalities, and obsess over what kind of digs they want to take at Army today.

[theograce]

I am more concerned about how we look on the ice more than points or playoff position.

It’s like some people here don’t watch top teams play.

You are concerned about how a team looks that has been missing over 1/3 of their starting forward group for the past 3 weeks??

When their goaltending stabilized (thanks to extremely good team defense) around a week into November through the end of November with a healthy lineup….the Blues went 5-2-5. That’s 5 games over .500 with just 2 OTWs out of 5.

I’ve honestly thought the Blues have looked really good in most games they’ve played in December with a bunch of journeymen and ahl guys. The worst games were 4 very bad goaltending performances. The rest was building a culture of hard work, stingy defense, and goaltending.

Once they get healthy they will start scoring and once they start scoring this team COULD take off.

Watch good teams

Most people have lives and/or jobs. Most people have kids and/or families. Most don't live off their parents and/or government assistance, therefore don't have time to watch NHL all day and stare at their spreadsheet of logins, IP addresses, personalities, and obsess over what kind of digs they want to take at Army today.

You seem upset. Ho Ho Ho bro

[blackinkbiz]

I am more concerned about how we look on the ice more than points or playoff position.

It’s like some people here don’t watch top teams play.

You are concerned about how a team looks that has been missing over 1/3 of their starting forward group for the past 3 weeks??

When their goaltending stabilized (thanks to extremely good team defense) around a week into November through the end of November with a healthy lineup….the Blues went 5-2-5. That’s 5 games over .500 with just 2 OTWs out of 5.

I’ve honestly thought the Blues have looked really good in most games they’ve played in December with a bunch of journeymen and ahl guys. The worst games were 4 very bad goaltending performances. The rest was building a culture of hard work, stingy defense, and goaltending.

Once they get healthy they will start scoring and once they start scoring this team COULD take off.

Watch good teams

Most people have lives and/or jobs. Most people have kids and/or families. Most don't live off their parents and/or government assistance, therefore don't have time to watch NHL all day and stare at their spreadsheet of logins, IP addresses, personalities, and obsess over what kind of digs they want to take at Army today.

You seem upset. Ho Ho Ho bro

To be honest, I enjoy your theatrics. Brings a little spice to a place that's quite often--especially these days--a bit curmudgeony. Troll-on...

And to get back on topic, had they won a few of those OT 3-on-3's, all I'd think is their luck is average and not god-awful, but regardless, until this team starts shooting the puck more and at least reaches league-average scoring, it's impossible to have a clue what they're capable of.

[theograce]

I am more concerned about how we look on the ice more than points or playoff position.

It’s like some people here don’t watch top teams play.

You are concerned about how a team looks that has been missing over 1/3 of their starting forward group for the past 3 weeks??

When their goaltending stabilized (thanks to extremely good team defense) around a week into November through the end of November with a healthy lineup….the Blues went 5-2-5. That’s 5 games over .500 with just 2 OTWs out of 5.

I’ve honestly thought the Blues have looked really good in most games they’ve played in December with a bunch of journeymen and ahl guys. The worst games were 4 very bad goaltending performances. The rest was building a culture of hard work, stingy defense, and goaltending.

Once they get healthy they will start scoring and once they start scoring this team COULD take off.

Watch good teams

Most people have lives and/or jobs. Most people have kids and/or families. Most don't live off their parents and/or government assistance, therefore don't have time to watch NHL all day and stare at their spreadsheet of logins, IP addresses, personalities, and obsess over what kind of digs they want to take at Army today.

You seem upset. Ho Ho Ho bro

To be honest, I enjoy your theatrics. Brings a little spice to a place that's quite often--especially these days--a bit curmudgeony. Troll-on...

Trolling is observing the differences between good teams and the Blues?

You sound very sensitive.

[Bacchk29]

I am more concerned about how we look on the ice more than points or playoff position.

It’s like some people here don’t watch top teams play.

You are concerned about how a team looks that has been missing over 1/3 of their starting forward group for the past 3 weeks??

When their goaltending stabilized (thanks to extremely good team defense) around a week into November through the end of November with a healthy lineup….the Blues went 5-2-5. That’s 5 games over .500 with just 2 OTWs out of 5.

I’ve honestly thought the Blues have looked really good in most games they’ve played in December with a bunch of journeymen and ahl guys. The worst games were 4 very bad goaltending performances. The rest was building a culture of hard work, stingy defense, and goaltending.

Once they get healthy they will start scoring and once they start scoring this team COULD take off.

Watch good teams

Most people have lives and/or jobs. Most people have kids and/or families. Most don't live off their parents and/or government assistance, therefore don't have time to watch NHL all day and stare at their spreadsheet of logins, IP addresses, personalities, and obsess over what kind of digs they want to take at Army today.

You seem upset. Ho Ho Ho bro

To be honest, I enjoy your theatrics. Brings a little spice to a place that's quite often--especially these days--a bit curmudgeony. Troll-on...

Trolling is observing the differences between good teams and the Blues?

You sound very sensitive.

He is like most. It hurts when you criticize Army. He brought us a Cup you know. As long as we have guys on the roster that try hard.