Is Bloom holding out for a slugger-type in a Donovan deal?

[Cusecards]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

LMAO
Exactly!
Careful not to confuse them with facts!

[Cusecards]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

[Goldfan]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

So Donny won’t be traded now??
What I’m saying is that the Cards payroll has been going down and will continue to go down as these vet contracts fall off.
But this isn’t a salary dump to genius’s like you…..you see the math…..what do you want to call it???
Donny isn’t going to return the next Skenes, he’s returning a younger Donny who makes no money.
So what does that do for the future talent base…..its not improved…..BDW will have his low payroll….and the future team will not be improved.
I challenged EC…..what has the team returned so far that jump starts this “rebuild”? Perhaps this lefty from Boston has a future…..is it a lock??

[Cusecards]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

So Donny won’t be traded now??
What I’m saying is that the Cards payroll has been going down and will continue to go down as these vet contracts fall off.
But this isn’t a salary dump to genius’s like you…..you see the math…..what do you want to call it???
Donny isn’t going to return the next Skenes, he’s returning a younger Donny who makes no money.
So what does that do for the future talent base…..its not improved…..BDW will have his low payroll….and the future team will not be improved.
I challenged EC…..what has the team returned so far that jump starts this “rebuild”? Perhaps this lefty from Boston has a future…..is it a lock??

You really don’t know when to stop babbling do you??
Congrats....you’ve managed to combine being a whiner with being an imbecile.
The poster who referred to you as a “Pubescent Girl” hit the nail on the head perfectly!

[Ozziesfan41]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

Yes he does. He complained about Mo for years wanting him gone he goes he gives bloom just two months after taking over and now he’s whining and crying about him two months into the job and he’s already whining and crying about him lol

[Goldfan]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

So Donny won’t be traded now??
What I’m saying is that the Cards payroll has been going down and will continue to go down as these vet contracts fall off.
But this isn’t a salary dump to genius’s like you…..you see the math…..what do you want to call it???
Donny isn’t going to return the next Skenes, he’s returning a younger Donny who makes no money.
So what does that do for the future talent base…..its not improved…..BDW will have his low payroll….and the future team will not be improved.
I challenged EC…..what has the team returned so far that jump starts this “rebuild”? Perhaps this lefty from Boston has a future…..is it a lock??

I guess we’ll ignore the 18mil form MIles too…..
Guess we forgot about that in the little equation up top
18 Miles+20 Gray but we add 12mil because we don’t have any SP…….38mil gone from starting staff but we added 12mil and Fitts(820,00)
38MIlLION offloaded from starting rotation and 13mil ADDED….I say dumping salary….Cuse says I’m stupid
Cuse you got a calculator???

[Cusecards]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

Yes he does. He complained about Mo for years wanting him gone he goes he gives bloom just two months after taking over and now he’s whining and crying about him two months into the job and he’s already whining and crying about him lol

Whining Imbecile!

[Goldfan]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

Yes he does. He complained about Mo for years wanting him gone he goes he gives bloom just two months after taking over and now he’s whining and crying about him two months into the job and he’s already whining and crying about him lol

Oz if you and Cuse want to stress to this board that 38mil offloaded from SP via Gray and Miles….while being replace by 13mil in May and Fitts isn’t a HUGE salary reduction =====Salary DUMP have at it…..Call me an idiot all you want. YOU 2 ARE IN THE HOLE BY 25MIL.
But why should FACTS matter here…..when Whiner and Dummy are the debate vocab

[Goldfan]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

Yes he does. He complained about Mo for years wanting him gone he goes he gives bloom just two months after taking over and now he’s whining and crying about him two months into the job and he’s already whining and crying about him lol

Whining Imbecile!

If you want to debate like a man I laid out the facts
Starting staff offloaded 38mil and acquired 13mil….hopefully you understand math
But continue the name calling…..

[Cusecards]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

So Donny won’t be traded now??
What I’m saying is that the Cards payroll has been going down and will continue to go down as these vet contracts fall off.
But this isn’t a salary dump to genius’s like you…..you see the math…..what do you want to call it???
Donny isn’t going to return the next Skenes, he’s returning a younger Donny who makes no money.
So what does that do for the future talent base…..its not improved…..BDW will have his low payroll….and the future team will not be improved.
I challenged EC…..what has the team returned so far that jump starts this “rebuild”? Perhaps this lefty from Boston has a future…..is it a lock??

I guess we’ll ignore the 18mil form MIles too…..
Guess we forgot about that in the little equation up top
18 Miles+20 Gray but we add 12mil because we don’t have any SP…….38mil gone from starting staff but we added 12mil and Fitts(820,00)
38MIlLION offloaded from starting rotation and 13mil ADDED….I say dumping salary….Cuse says I’m stupid
Cuse you got a calculator???

Yeah I got a calculator you whining imbecile!
Are you saying we should have KEPT Gray and Mikolas??????
And paid them over $50M combined?????
I take it back....you have managed to get dumber.

[Goldfan]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

So Donny won’t be traded now??
What I’m saying is that the Cards payroll has been going down and will continue to go down as these vet contracts fall off.
But this isn’t a salary dump to genius’s like you…..you see the math…..what do you want to call it???
Donny isn’t going to return the next Skenes, he’s returning a younger Donny who makes no money.
So what does that do for the future talent base…..its not improved…..BDW will have his low payroll….and the future team will not be improved.
I challenged EC…..what has the team returned so far that jump starts this “rebuild”? Perhaps this lefty from Boston has a future…..is it a lock??

I guess we’ll ignore the 18mil form MIles too…..
Guess we forgot about that in the little equation up top
18 Miles+20 Gray but we add 12mil because we don’t have any SP…….38mil gone from starting staff but we added 12mil and Fitts(820,00)
38MIlLION offloaded from starting rotation and 13mil ADDED….I say dumping salary….Cuse says I’m stupid
Cuse you got a calculator???

Yeah I got a calculator you whining imbecile!
Are you saying we should have KEPT Gray and Mikolas??????
And paid them over $50M combined?????
I take it back....you have managed to get dumber.

No not at all…..my point was BDW is dumping salary. So please tell me he isnt…..could he have replace starting pitchers consuming that 38mil, YES
He spent 13mil
He dumped 25mil
So how that works???

[Ozziesfan41]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

So Donny won’t be traded now??
What I’m saying is that the Cards payroll has been going down and will continue to go down as these vet contracts fall off.
But this isn’t a salary dump to genius’s like you…..you see the math…..what do you want to call it???
Donny isn’t going to return the next Skenes, he’s returning a younger Donny who makes no money.
So what does that do for the future talent base…..its not improved…..BDW will have his low payroll….and the future team will not be improved.
I challenged EC…..what has the team returned so far that jump starts this “rebuild”? Perhaps this lefty from Boston has a future…..is it a lock??

I guess we’ll ignore the 18mil form MIles too…..
Guess we forgot about that in the little equation up top
18 Miles+20 Gray but we add 12mil because we don’t have any SP…….38mil gone from starting staff but we added 12mil and Fitts(820,00)
38MIlLION offloaded from starting rotation and 13mil ADDED….I say dumping salary….Cuse says I’m stupid
Cuse you got a calculator???

Yeah I got a calculator you whining imbecile!
Are you saying we should have KEPT Gray and Mikolas??????
And paid them over $50M combined?????
I take it back....you have managed to get dumber.

He also whined ever since the cardinals signed gray that he wasn’t an ace and then pounded himself on the back saying he was right now he whines that they traded gray

[Cusecards]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

So Donny won’t be traded now??
What I’m saying is that the Cards payroll has been going down and will continue to go down as these vet contracts fall off.
But this isn’t a salary dump to genius’s like you…..you see the math…..what do you want to call it???
Donny isn’t going to return the next Skenes, he’s returning a younger Donny who makes no money.
So what does that do for the future talent base…..its not improved…..BDW will have his low payroll….and the future team will not be improved.
I challenged EC…..what has the team returned so far that jump starts this “rebuild”? Perhaps this lefty from Boston has a future…..is it a lock??

I guess we’ll ignore the 18mil form MIles too…..
Guess we forgot about that in the little equation up top
18 Miles+20 Gray but we add 12mil because we don’t have any SP…….38mil gone from starting staff but we added 12mil and Fitts(820,00)
38MIlLION offloaded from starting rotation and 13mil ADDED….I say dumping salary….Cuse says I’m stupid
Cuse you got a calculator???

Yeah I got a calculator you whining imbecile!
Are you saying we should have KEPT Gray and Mikolas??????
And paid them over $50M combined?????
I take it back....you have managed to get dumber.

No not at all…..my point was BDW is dumping salary. So please tell me he isnt…..could he have replace starting pitchers consuming that 38mil, YES
He spent 13mil
He dumped 25mil
So how that works???

So....FOR THE RECORD....you’re saying they were CORRECT in moving on from Mikolas and Gray?????

[Cusecards]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

So Donny won’t be traded now??
What I’m saying is that the Cards payroll has been going down and will continue to go down as these vet contracts fall off.
But this isn’t a salary dump to genius’s like you…..you see the math…..what do you want to call it???
Donny isn’t going to return the next Skenes, he’s returning a younger Donny who makes no money.
So what does that do for the future talent base…..its not improved…..BDW will have his low payroll….and the future team will not be improved.
I challenged EC…..what has the team returned so far that jump starts this “rebuild”? Perhaps this lefty from Boston has a future…..is it a lock??

I guess we’ll ignore the 18mil form MIles too…..
Guess we forgot about that in the little equation up top
18 Miles+20 Gray but we add 12mil because we don’t have any SP…….38mil gone from starting staff but we added 12mil and Fitts(820,00)
38MIlLION offloaded from starting rotation and 13mil ADDED….I say dumping salary….Cuse says I’m stupid
Cuse you got a calculator???

Yeah I got a calculator you whining imbecile!
Are you saying we should have KEPT Gray and Mikolas??????
And paid them over $50M combined?????
I take it back....you have managed to get dumber.

He also whined ever since the cardinals signed gray that he wasn’t an ace and then pounded himself on the back saying he was right now whines that they traded gray

He’s a colossal piece of work.
Have a good night Oz.
I’m now returning to Planet Earth! LOL

[Goldfan]

Donny will return a younger cheaper version of himself or lesser talent player. If you haven’t noticed the real mission is to drop payroll and HOPE some of these returning players don’t embarrass BDW/Bloom too much

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

So Donny won’t be traded now??
What I’m saying is that the Cards payroll has been going down and will continue to go down as these vet contracts fall off.
But this isn’t a salary dump to genius’s like you…..you see the math…..what do you want to call it???
Donny isn’t going to return the next Skenes, he’s returning a younger Donny who makes no money.
So what does that do for the future talent base…..its not improved…..BDW will have his low payroll….and the future team will not be improved.
I challenged EC…..what has the team returned so far that jump starts this “rebuild”? Perhaps this lefty from Boston has a future…..is it a lock??

I guess we’ll ignore the 18mil form MIles too…..
Guess we forgot about that in the little equation up top
18 Miles+20 Gray but we add 12mil because we don’t have any SP…….38mil gone from starting staff but we added 12mil and Fitts(820,00)
38MIlLION offloaded from starting rotation and 13mil ADDED….I say dumping salary….Cuse says I’m stupid
Cuse you got a calculator???

Yeah I got a calculator you whining imbecile!
Are you saying we should have KEPT Gray and Mikolas??????
And paid them over $50M combined?????
I take it back....you have managed to get dumber.

No not at all…..my point was BDW is dumping salary. So please tell me he isnt…..could he have replace starting pitchers consuming that 38mil, YES
He spent 13mil
He dumped 25mil
So how that works???

So....FOR THE RECORD....you’re saying they were CORRECT in moving on from Mikolas and Gray?????

dumb[ash] were talking $$$ and Salary dumping NOT Gray and Miles. If you’re not dumping you don’t have a 25mil dump in your starting rotation.

[Ozziesfan41]

Why dump salary on an outstanding, fairly young player like Donovan? Unless the return is extravagant. I like the thought of having really fine hitters like Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and, hopefully, Wetherholt in the lineup, together, for a few seasons.

Goldfan is wrong.

They’re not trying to dump salary. They are trying to acquire prospects.

What flavor is that “Cool-aid “ your drinking!

Okay, so all we have to go by so far is Gray, a trade where they ate 20mil in order to get a better return: two pitchers.

We also have the May signing: a deal which COST them 12 million.

So, Hoosier, where is the salary dump?

Also, there are talks about signing ANOTHER starting pitcher to a one year deal, probably at least an 8-12 mil contract.

With knowing ALL of this, they stand to dump NO money on the Gray deal, but rather instead trading a contract with one year remaining and gaining 1) a prospect 2) a young pitcher w control in Fritts, and 3) two vets to hold down the rotation and maybe flip at the deadline.

So where is the salary dump?

Gray was owed 35mil in ‘26 with club option for 30mil and 5mil buyout in ‘27. So that’s 40mil 40-20=20mil saved
So you want to throw in May at 12…..thats 8mil. Donny is 6mi…..14mil saved
14 mil here and there….you’re dumping salary

1) Has Donovan been traded yet??
2) And if he is traded you ALREADY KNOW that the players they receive will make far less than $6M???
3) Are you saying they should have held onto Gray for this season and next at a cost of $65M at his age????

Just when I thought you couldn’t whine any more and get any dumber!!!!

So Donny won’t be traded now??
What I’m saying is that the Cards payroll has been going down and will continue to go down as these vet contracts fall off.
But this isn’t a salary dump to genius’s like you…..you see the math…..what do you want to call it???
Donny isn’t going to return the next Skenes, he’s returning a younger Donny who makes no money.
So what does that do for the future talent base…..its not improved…..BDW will have his low payroll….and the future team will not be improved.
I challenged EC…..what has the team returned so far that jump starts this “rebuild”? Perhaps this lefty from Boston has a future…..is it a lock??

I guess we’ll ignore the 18mil form MIles too…..
Guess we forgot about that in the little equation up top
18 Miles+20 Gray but we add 12mil because we don’t have any SP…….38mil gone from starting staff but we added 12mil and Fitts(820,00)
38MIlLION offloaded from starting rotation and 13mil ADDED….I say dumping salary….Cuse says I’m stupid
Cuse you got a calculator???

Yeah I got a calculator you whining imbecile!
Are you saying we should have KEPT Gray and Mikolas??????
And paid them over $50M combined?????
I take it back....you have managed to get dumber.

No not at all…..my point was BDW is dumping salary. So please tell me he isnt…..could he have replace starting pitchers consuming that 38mil, YES
He spent 13mil
He dumped 25mil
So how that works???

So....FOR THE RECORD....you’re saying they were CORRECT in moving on from Mikolas and Gray?????

dumb[ash] were talking $$$ and Salary dumping NOT Gray and Miles. If you’re not dumping you don’t have a 25mil dump in your starting rotation.

He was traded because it would take the dumbest POBO in the world to keep him. Bloom would be an imbecile to keep him. He hasn’t helped them win he certainly wasn’t going to help them win next season they weren’t going to extend him it would be stupid to keep him especially when he could be traded for prospects who might help them and a dump is when you get rid of them for virtually nothing they got a high upside arm and a major league ready arm that’s not a dump that’s what rebuilding is. A dump is what they are going to do with arenado