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2ninr
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Re: From D. Goold Chat- Eldridge SF Giants

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Melville wrote: 16 Dec 2025 08:55 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 16 Dec 2025 08:33 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Dec 2025 01:00 amThe Giants aren't looking 3 years down the road. They are looking to do damage the next 2 years. I don't think that dog hunts.
Yea, it's a dumb argument that you could make for virtually any trade. "If they thought this player was any good, they wouldn't have traded him." In this case, like the Giants have done anything impressive the last few years. But if the Giants, or most any other team, are looking to win now, and there is a player that they value, there is a good chance that they will do what they have to do. This is one of the most basic things ever. We see it year after year.

Now, I'm not saying that in this specific instance that the Giants value Donovan that highly, or what they really think of Eldridge. I have no idea. But saying that they wouldn't trade Eldridge unless they had serious risk concerns is dumb. And what has Buster Posey done that is so successful? Won one more game than they did the year before he got promoted? 81-81?? Wow!!
Specious post - lacking either knowledge or honesty.
This isn't an "argument that you could make for any trade".
In fact, it is exactly the opposite.
Very rare for any team to give up its #1 rated prospect with 6 years of control in a 1:1 swap for 2 years of a player who has never hit 15 HR, never scored 70 runs, and only once in 4 years has driven in more than 50.
Donovan is a really good multi-position player, but not a star.
Obviously, the Giants would never entertain such a notion if they did not see significant risk in Eldridge.
Not a criticism of either player in any way - just an unbiased, fully accurate analysis of the facts.
Which, of course, is all I do.
I would add that we are about to learn something interesting about Bloom, in this, his first off-season at the helm.
One of Super Slo Mo's two greatest weaknesses was the fear and timidity which caused him to be nearly completely risk averse and routinely aim for mediocrity.
We shall see if Bloom is willing to place higher risk/higher reward bets.
No one expects to get Eldridge in a 1 for 1 swap for Donovan.
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Re: From D. Goold Chat- Eldridge SF Giants

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I know I’m repeating myself but:
I like Burleson(bat) and he has become a passable defender. Obviously he could come on even more at the plate.
But....if asked to chose I would rather have Donovan over Burleson.
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Re: From D. Goold Chat- Eldridge SF Giants

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Melville wrote: 16 Dec 2025 08:16 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 16 Dec 2025 01:00 am
Melville wrote: 15 Dec 2025 22:41 pm
cardstatman wrote: 15 Dec 2025 18:43 pm Bryce Eldridge 1B/DH
Drafted by the San Francisco Giants in the 1st round (16th) of the 2023 MLB June Amateur Draft
6'7" 240lb
Speed 45/30
Field 30/40

Trying to learn to play 1B in 2024-2025. Hoping to reduce fielding miscues and failed catches... making progress.

The hitting bar is high for him to be an average MLB player. It is very high for him to be an all star.

Kind of like Contreras or Burleson or Herrera (if he can't play as a catcher)

If he's an elite bat, sign me up. Let's trade Contreras and Burleson. Otherwise, pass.
He is under control for 6 more seasons.
If SF proves to be willing to trade him for 2 years of Donovan, what does that tell you about the risks they see in Eldridge's game?


The Giants aren't looking 3 years down the road. They are looking to do damage the next 2 years. I don't think that dog hunts.
Posey has proven himself to be highly analytical and strategic.
Extremely calculating.
He would not we willing to give up 6 years of Eldridge if he didn't have risk concerns.
There are virtually no prospects that don't have risk concerns. The issue is prospect vs established player that numerous teams believe would dovetail nicely into their roster adding both defensive and offensive prowess. Someone who gets on base and likely produces at a good clip with risp while adding value at 2d or 3B. I doubt Posey presents any more analytical or strategic prowess than Bloom does. If Posey wants Donovan then he will pay painfully. If he isn't willing, someone else will.

Pretty sure that teams interested in Donovan are not just thinking 2 years if Donnie plays as expected. Extensions are easiest and most accommodating if the player is already on the team.
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