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DawgDad
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Re: GDT: Blues at Preds 7:00 FanDuel

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blackinkbiz wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:24 pm
JR1 wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:03 pm
DawgDad wrote: 11 Dec 2025 20:53 pm
JR1 wrote: 11 Dec 2025 20:46 pm
DawgDad wrote: 11 Dec 2025 20:43 pm Did you see Dvorsky cough up that puck? He's regressing noticeably.
He’s another one of our highly regarded picks who hasn’t developed like expected.. honestly Snuggy has been the best but he really hasn’t done much either. I think the scouting team is a poor judge of talent.
I can't make that jump to the sweeping generalization about judging talent.

To me Dvorsky's problems at ES stem from an incomplete adjustment from bigger ice surfaces. He works best with time and space, that's a European game. His other problem is MUCH more concerning; he lacks tenacity on and off the puck. That, frankly, is inexcusable.

I want DD to be successful, I wanted him to move the needle even an eensy bit. He's on a downward trajectory.
That’s my opinion on the talent pool. I honestly don’t think we have any difference makers in the pipeline but no one can see the future. Back to DD, I think you hit the nail on the head by questioning tenacity or lack of it. He gives up without a fight and is supposedly one of our top prospects.
Aside from the apparently endless line of injuries, this team has 2 problems. One, Binnington, can be fixed. He's pretty much the worst goalie in the NHL this season. Just gonna have to sit him as much as possible until he figures it out.

The bigger problem, and it's not just this season, as it's been going on for a few years (minus the last couple months of last season) is they just can't finish enough to change their opponent's game. I can't even watch this sh*t anymore.

They had like 5 grade-A opportunities in the first 10 minutes when the game was scoreless... zilch. Even if they had scored one, which they've done plenty, they're not scoring additional goals to force their opponent to open up. If there's no threat your opponent can light you up because of your mistakes, then there's no reason to play defensively.

Teams just keep coming at the Blues nonstop and bury them because there's no blowback. I've never seen such a poor scoring team. It's maddening and depressing at this point. I can't even remember the last time they scored 5 goals, and that's something you SHOULD be doing at least once every week to 10 days.

This is pathetic. But if they could somehow find some offensive semblance and start scoring, the talent on this team, of which there is a decent amount, could start to build.

Again, this is why the Mailloux trade is/was disastrous. Bolduc brought a shot threat, finishing ability, and physicality.

Maillsitin brings nothing.
You do realize that if they tear this down Mailloux will be one of the BRIGHT spots!

Problem right now is the bad offense is further hampered by injuries to Kyrou and Snuggerud, many of the vets are just going through the motions, and there aren't any future core leaders playing outside of Dvorsky and Hofer. They are in a bad spot.
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Cant wait to hear the generic bull[shirt] post game no passion interviews.
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Yikes.....that was nothing but fugly right from the start.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:30 pm
1983cougar wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:27 pm It's been a very frustrating season so far because at the beginning of the year I thought that they could be a playoff team but that doesn't appear to be in the cards. They are not talented enough to skate with the upper end teams. Not tough enough to pound on other teams. It's pretty obvious that this isn't going to be a quick fix but hopefully it won't be too bad for too long.
Kyrou, Snuggerud, Bjugstad, Torop and Walker is a lot to miss. They could certainly be more competitive
that's true
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Is this about the tenth “toughest loss of the season”?
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Jeff Goldblum wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:35 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:34 pm
Jeff Goldblum wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:30 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:28 pm Wow. I'm glad that we were playing one of the very weakest teams in the NHL tonight. Otherwise, it would have been a very embarrassing loss. In fact, some may start questioning why Army is leading Team Canada.
Dont you want them to lose?
Nope. I'm just the messenger.

What I want is for BluesTalkers to see the ROOT CAUSE of all these problems....
Douglas Armstrong and Blues Management.
BluesTalkers want you to S[top] T[hose] F[raudulent] U[tterances]. Weren't you supposed to leave after they won 2 playoff games.
Sorry for your pain and annoyance. I know what that is all about. Doug Armstrong's management annoys me greatly. So now we are even.
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82birds wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:36 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:30 pm
1983cougar wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:27 pm It's been a very frustrating season so far because at the beginning of the year I thought that they could be a playoff team but that doesn't appear to be in the cards. They are not talented enough to skate with the upper end teams. Not tough enough to pound on other teams. It's pretty obvious that this isn't going to be a quick fix but hopefully it won't be too bad for too long.
Kyrou, Snuggerud, Bjugstad, Torop and Walker is a lot to miss. They could certainly be more competitive
that's true
I mean they weren't exactly running away with it while fully healthy but what team is going to look good missing 5 forwards?
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82birds wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:36 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:30 pm
1983cougar wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:27 pm It's been a very frustrating season so far because at the beginning of the year I thought that they could be a playoff team but that doesn't appear to be in the cards. They are not talented enough to skate with the upper end teams. Not tough enough to pound on other teams. It's pretty obvious that this isn't going to be a quick fix but hopefully it won't be too bad for too long.
Kyrou, Snuggerud, Bjugstad, Torop and Walker is a lot to miss. They could certainly be more competitive
that's true
To me it's the bottom six that's been gutted. You can still put out a couple of good scoring lines. Heck, when the top players were non-existent the 4th line was on nights the best line. That's gone.
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Tony Palazzolo wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:47 pm
82birds wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:36 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:30 pm
1983cougar wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:27 pm It's been a very frustrating season so far because at the beginning of the year I thought that they could be a playoff team but that doesn't appear to be in the cards. They are not talented enough to skate with the upper end teams. Not tough enough to pound on other teams. It's pretty obvious that this isn't going to be a quick fix but hopefully it won't be too bad for too long.
Kyrou, Snuggerud, Bjugstad, Torop and Walker is a lot to miss. They could certainly be more competitive
that's true
To me it's the bottom six that's been gutted. You can still put out a couple of good scoring lines. Heck, when the top players were non-existent the 4th line was on nights the best line. That's gone.
I agree that we're missing some good players but even when they were mostly healthy the best players weren't performing at the level the Blues needed. The fourth line was the best line far too often.
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82birds wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:36 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:30 pm
1983cougar wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:27 pm It's been a very frustrating season so far because at the beginning of the year I thought that they could be a playoff team but that doesn't appear to be in the cards. They are not talented enough to skate with the upper end teams. Not tough enough to pound on other teams. It's pretty obvious that this isn't going to be a quick fix but hopefully it won't be too bad for too long.
Kyrou, Snuggerud, Bjugstad, Torop and Walker is a lot to miss. They could certainly be more competitive
that's true
Yup
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1983cougar wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:57 pm
Tony Palazzolo wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:47 pm
82birds wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:36 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:30 pm
1983cougar wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:27 pm It's been a very frustrating season so far because at the beginning of the year I thought that they could be a playoff team but that doesn't appear to be in the cards. They are not talented enough to skate with the upper end teams. Not tough enough to pound on other teams. It's pretty obvious that this isn't going to be a quick fix but hopefully it won't be too bad for too long.
Kyrou, Snuggerud, Bjugstad, Torop and Walker is a lot to miss. They could certainly be more competitive
that's true
To me it's the bottom six that's been gutted. You can still put out a couple of good scoring lines. Heck, when the top players were non-existent the 4th line was on nights the best line. That's gone.
I agree that we're missing some good players but even when they were mostly healthy the best players weren't performing at the level the Blues needed. The fourth line was the best line far too often.
That's kinda of my point. How many of out top players have had rough starts. Holloway, Thomas, Buch, Fowler, Kyrou and I'm sure I'm missing a couple. Some of those are waking up. Holloway has really been effective. Thomas is getting there. Buch is quietly putting up points. Of course Kyrou has been better but hurt. The injures have killed the 4th line and weakened the 3rd.
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This is not a Cup contending team. I just hope they don't screw up their draft position like they did last year.

We need studs/elite players on offense and defense. Occasionally you get lucky picking one up after the top 4-6 in R1 but don't count on it.

We are in transition/re-whatever waiting to see if any of those many first round picks pan out. Until then, it's gonna be a mediocre team unless the goalies go lights out. And if those prospects don't pan out................
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Harry S Deals wrote: 11 Dec 2025 21:15 pm So we are writing DD off already at 20 lol he's been playing with a revolving bunch of scrubs no chemistry no scoring wingers. I'll circle back on this next year or so
Careful - you’re being reasonable. No room for that around here!🤓
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It's been a perfect storm of injuries, slumping offense, poor goaltending, and probably half a dozen other factors that are symptoms of those three things that have put us where we are. Outside of a couple players, no one has looked good and the team currently has no chemistry or identity. I still think there is a group of talented players here at the core, and some pieces that are a season away or so from becoming valuable additions. I wouldn't blow the whole thing up just yet, but if things don't look markedly better in a month, I would look at trading guys like Binnington or Parayko if they were able to bring a decent return. I don't know if I'd be comfortable signing Broberg or Holloway to long term contracts at this point. Maybe one or the other, but not both. If they wind up with a lottery pick and can free up some money to make a run at a couple free agents in the offseason they could be a completely different team next season. Right now, as much as I love these guys, it's very hard to watch.
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Geez if they get rid of everybody and get a bunch of draft picks it’ll be 10 years before they contend again. Sure some need to go but not everyone.
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Probably an unpopular opinion here but I will give it anyway. I am not an Army basher as I think he is one of the better GMs in the game. But one thing that troubled me when Army announced the coaching change, was the 5 year contract for Monty. Why so long? Especially when it seemed like he had just lost the locker room in Boston. I am not saying that Monty is the reason we are playing like dog turds, but it seemed a little long to me considering every thing. I understand coaches will eventually wear thin on a team, but him losing the Bruins locker room, seemed pretty quick in my opinion. Boston had just set the all-time points record 18 months before. I understand there are many other factors involved and he is here to stay, especially with a 5 year contract. I guess it can be good in one respect, that it shows the so called "coach killers" on this team, that the coach isn't going anywhere. But at the same time, the coach knows he isn't going anywhere either! Before all the injuries, I just couldn't understand some of the constant juggling of the lines, the stubbornnes to change up the power play, to bench some of the vets, but other vets get a pass earlier in the season, our pre-season roster and compete level, etc... Again, I am not saying this is on the coach at all, but what the heck changed from last year to this year? I don't see the same hunger and passion, from basically the same team of players. Quite frankly, I don't see the same hunger and passion in Monty either. There is more to it than just the Bolduc trade. Was last year just the result of the "coach bump" after letting Bannister go? Flame away....
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