Red Sox 5 player deal with Pirates

[sikeston bulldog2]

Poll question:
Who do you think is the better pitcher going forward- Richard Fitts, or Johan Oviedo?

I’d be pretty confident that it’s Oviedo. I think Fitts is likely to have problems keeping the ball in the yard.

If he has trouble on homers, then that would also indicate good control. If he can diminish the home runs, he might be a reasonable starter.

[An Old Friend]

Poll question:
Who do you think is the better pitcher going forward- Richard Fitts, or Johan Oviedo?

I’d be pretty confident that it’s Oviedo. I think Fitts is likely to have problems keeping the ball in the yard.

If he has trouble on homers, then that would also indicate good control. If he can diminish the home runs, he might be a reasonable starter.

OR, he might give up a lot of homeruns.

He needs to miss more bats and become less vulnerable in the zone. So he needs meaningful and incremental improvements to his overall stuff.

If a guy has HR issues in the minors, I think it’s rather atypical that they don’t follow him to the majors.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Poll question:
Who do you think is the better pitcher going forward- Richard Fitts, or Johan Oviedo?

I’d be pretty confident that it’s Oviedo. I think Fitts is likely to have problems keeping the ball in the yard.

If he has trouble on homers, then that would also indicate good control. If he can diminish the home runs, he might be a reasonable starter.

OR, he might give up a lot of homeruns.

He needs to miss more bats and become less vulnerable in the zone. So he needs meaningful and incremental improvements to his overall stuff.

If a guy has HR issues in the minors, I think it’s rather atypical that they don’t follow him to the majors.

I hear ya. More likely. If he can miss more bats, is his control good enough at this level to help him become a starter.

[An Old Friend]

Poll question:
Who do you think is the better pitcher going forward- Richard Fitts, or Johan Oviedo?

I’d be pretty confident that it’s Oviedo. I think Fitts is likely to have problems keeping the ball in the yard.

If he has trouble on homers, then that would also indicate good control. If he can diminish the home runs, he might be a reasonable starter.

OR, he might give up a lot of homeruns.

He needs to miss more bats and become less vulnerable in the zone. So he needs meaningful and incremental improvements to his overall stuff.

If a guy has HR issues in the minors, I think it’s rather atypical that they don’t follow him to the majors.

I hear ya. More likely. If he can miss more bats, is his control good enough at this level to help him become a starter.

I mean… he’s certainly a starter on this team but maybe not by the time they’re actually contending.

Fitts is going to give them innings and probably be decent, but I think it’s a low ceiling. Clarke is the ceiling guy in that deal. I view Fitts as a bridge arm.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Poll question:
Who do you think is the better pitcher going forward- Richard Fitts, or Johan Oviedo?

I’d be pretty confident that it’s Oviedo. I think Fitts is likely to have problems keeping the ball in the yard.

If he has trouble on homers, then that would also indicate good control. If he can diminish the home runs, he might be a reasonable starter.

OR, he might give up a lot of homeruns.

He needs to miss more bats and become less vulnerable in the zone. So he needs meaningful and incremental improvements to his overall stuff.

If a guy has HR issues in the minors, I think it’s rather atypical that they don’t follow him to the majors.

I hear ya. More likely. If he can miss more bats, is his control good enough at this level to help him become a starter.

I mean… he’s certainly a starter on this team but maybe not by the time they’re actually contending.

Fitts is going to give them innings and probably be decent, but I think it’s a low ceiling. Clarke is the ceiling guy in that deal. I view Fitts as a bridge arm.

Good write. Thanx.

[scoutyjones2]

Good trade for the Bucs.

Funny thing is, now matter how many "good trades" the pirates make, it never gets them over the top.

Winning battles but losing the war.

That’s because they don’t have the money to keep players or sign players

Baloney. The owner is rich...

[mattmitchl44]

If you are the Red Sox and looking at 2026, you probably prefer to have Oviedo. If you are the Cardinals and looking further down the line, you probably prefer to have Fitts.

[rockondlouie]

Boston gets Johan Oviedo
Also Tyler Samanuegi & Adonis Guzman

Pirates get Garcia #85 mlb prospect ( former #3 Boston prospect)and Jesus Travieso

Oviedo/4.61 career FiP

Huge overpay by the dumb Sox

[scoutyjones2]

Boston gets Johan Oviedo
Also Tyler Samanuegi & Adonis Guzman

Pirates get Garcia #85 mlb prospect ( former #3 Boston prospect)and Jesus Travieso

Oviedo/4.61 career FiP

Huge overpay by the dumb Sox

Head scratcher for sure...must be those Bloom acolytes