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Re: Carbonneau: 21 goals in 21 games video

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seattleblue wrote: 02 Dec 2025 15:34 pm Again he’s not ready for the NHL because in the NHL there is not the same level of opportunism that there is in juniors. The puck bounces everywhere there are Grade A scoring chances in so many junior games. Thats why guys who are elite finishers just romp but it’s like strength training tons of reps with no weight on the bar.

But he can’t be called up til his junior season is over. We should get to see him play for Team Canada in the WJC soon that should be a better test
You said dvorsky wasnt ready and he is 2c
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Natl20 wrote: 02 Dec 2025 16:17 pm Well genius the trade was made when everyone was healthy.
Really...teams are healthy in the offseason?

It's official - you do know a lot about hockey.
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Nublues69 wrote: 02 Dec 2025 14:32 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 02 Dec 2025 10:43 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: 01 Dec 2025 18:20 pm https://x.com/stlbluesmuse/status/19949 ... 00064?s=46

Can he be called up?
FWIW, Bolduc essentially did the same thing at the same age in the same league and now everyone here says he's a JAG.

And no, I asked same question the other day and he can't play in the NHL until his juniors eligibility is over for the season, or something like that.
Yeah um no bolduc did not do the same thing he was all finesse. Carbonneau is more of a power forward. I liked bolduc a lot but carbonneau is better . on a worse team
Oh, I hope you're right! Beyond a few highlights and his limited time with this year's team, I haven't seen Carbs play at all. Nor had I watched Bolduc's pre-NHL play. I was just making a point. Unless a kid is really, and I mean REALLY dominating a league--such as averaging 2 goals or 3 pts per game--it's tough to predict and thus for me, to get excited, about what players do in the minors.

But I'd love to see Carbs come up and average just half his minors GPG. :D
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BalotelliMassive wrote: 02 Dec 2025 15:07 pm Not sure how anybody can label Bolduc as expendable....not with the injuries the Blues have faced.
Pretzel logic to defend Army
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BalotelliMassive wrote: 02 Dec 2025 17:42 pm
Natl20 wrote: 02 Dec 2025 16:17 pm Well genius the trade was made when everyone was healthy.
Really...teams are healthy in the offseason?

It's official - you do know a lot about hockey.
Thanks!

I also know that no one, in the history of ever, could predict who gets injured and when.
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Even if Bolduc was “expendable” (arguable at best), you don’t just trade him for anything. I hated the trade the minute it was announced. What I know now has not changed it one bit
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blackinkbiz wrote: 02 Dec 2025 10:43 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: 01 Dec 2025 18:20 pm https://x.com/stlbluesmuse/status/19949 ... 00064?s=46

Can he be called up?
FWIW, Bolduc essentially did the same thing at the same age in the same league and now everyone here says he's a JAG.

And no, I asked same question the other day and he can't play in the NHL until his juniors eligibility is over for the season, or something like that.
Let it go dude. Bolduc's a Canadien. Time to move on.
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Nublues69 wrote: 02 Dec 2025 17:28 pm
seattleblue wrote: 02 Dec 2025 15:34 pm Again he’s not ready for the NHL because in the NHL there is not the same level of opportunism that there is in juniors. The puck bounces everywhere there are Grade A scoring chances in so many junior games. Thats why guys who are elite finishers just romp but it’s like strength training tons of reps with no weight on the bar.

But he can’t be called up til his junior season is over. We should get to see him play for Team Canada in the WJC soon that should be a better test
You said dvorsky wasnt ready and he is 2c
You must have me confused with someone else because I spent the entire summer telling people raving about Carbonneau (who I picked out in advance of the draft and called myself on Carbonneau Watch, in the draft, in real time) that Dvorsky was our clear cut #1 prospect and was going to be a high end NHL center. Many people should remember this, I was a broken record on boosting Dvorsky. I asked kimzey what the over under on NHL games this year was and I took the over 50. Etc ...

edit: when people said who do you think would make the team out of camp I'd say Dvorsky, and my answer for "dark horse" was Kaskimaki, I called him Darkhorsimaki. Armstrong really likes him - he's a Swiss Army knife player. I saw him make some nice plays in Springfield but also some glaring mistakes. He's kind of a tweener, but they are going to give him a shot to steal a spot with Walker out.
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seattleblue wrote: 02 Dec 2025 19:40 pm
Nublues69 wrote: 02 Dec 2025 17:28 pm
seattleblue wrote: 02 Dec 2025 15:34 pm Again he’s not ready for the NHL because in the NHL there is not the same level of opportunism that there is in juniors. The puck bounces everywhere there are Grade A scoring chances in so many junior games. Thats why guys who are elite finishers just romp but it’s like strength training tons of reps with no weight on the bar.

But he can’t be called up til his junior season is over. We should get to see him play for Team Canada in the WJC soon that should be a better test
You said dvorsky wasnt ready and he is 2c
You must have me confused with someone else because I spent the entire summer telling people raving about Carbonneau (who I picked out in advance of the draft and called myself on Carbonneau Watch, in the draft, in real time) that Dvorsky was our clear cut #1 prospect and was going to be a high end NHL center. Many people should remember this, I was a broken record on boosting Dvorsky. I asked kimzey what the over under on NHL games this year was and I took the over 50. Etc ...
True statement, NuBlues69. He is telling it like it was.
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SC Bluenote wrote: 02 Dec 2025 18:58 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 02 Dec 2025 10:43 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: 01 Dec 2025 18:20 pm https://x.com/stlbluesmuse/status/19949 ... 00064?s=46

Can he be called up?
FWIW, Bolduc essentially did the same thing at the same age in the same league and now everyone here says he's a JAG.

And no, I asked same question the other day and he can't play in the NHL until his juniors eligibility is over for the season, or something like that.
Let it go dude. Bolduc's a Canadien. Time to move on.

This is why it's called the insane asylum. You try to make a logical point around here and most replies jump straight to an emotional overreaction that totally misses the point.

I couldn't care less that Bolduc's a Canadien. My point is around the same age and league they both posted a goal per game and many think Bolduc is now JAG.

So while I definitely hope Carbs comes up here and kills it like an All-Star, there's a lot of players who post a goal per game down there.

Long story short, I've been burnt by so many Cards prospects that completely flopped my doubt is now so ubiquitous it affects my NHL judgement. lol
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BalotelliMassive wrote: 02 Dec 2025 15:07 pm Not sure how anybody can label Bolduc as expendable....not with the injuries the Blues have faced.
Because the Blues will be extending Snuggerud (whos better), Holloway and Neighbours will be ready for another contract soon likely large increase. Also the Blues have Stenberg, Kaskimaki, Carbonneau among others coming online soon. The Blues made the determination that they prefer these other options vs Bolduc and the Blues have very little RHD depth so the trade absolutely makes sense. Army made a comment to the effect that they see Bolduc basically as a 3rd line player
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blackinkbiz wrote: 02 Dec 2025 21:11 pm
SC Bluenote wrote: 02 Dec 2025 18:58 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 02 Dec 2025 10:43 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: 01 Dec 2025 18:20 pm https://x.com/stlbluesmuse/status/19949 ... 00064?s=46

Can he be called up?
FWIW, Bolduc essentially did the same thing at the same age in the same league and now everyone here says he's a JAG.

And no, I asked same question the other day and he can't play in the NHL until his juniors eligibility is over for the season, or something like that.
Let it go dude. Bolduc's a Canadien. Time to move on.

This is why it's called the insane asylum. You try to make a logical point around here and most replies jump straight to an emotional overreaction that totally misses the point.

I couldn't care less that Bolduc's a Canadien. My point is around the same age and league they both posted a goal per game and many think Bolduc is now JAG.

So while I definitely hope Carbs comes up here and kills it like an All-Star, there's a lot of players who post a goal per game down there.

Long story short, I've been burnt by so many Cards prospects that completely flopped my doubt is now so ubiquitous it affects my NHL judgement. lol
To be sure Bolduc was never "goal per game" in the Q btw
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Harry S Deals wrote: 03 Dec 2025 08:44 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 02 Dec 2025 21:11 pm
SC Bluenote wrote: 02 Dec 2025 18:58 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 02 Dec 2025 10:43 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: 01 Dec 2025 18:20 pm https://x.com/stlbluesmuse/status/19949 ... 00064?s=46

Can he be called up?
FWIW, Bolduc essentially did the same thing at the same age in the same league and now everyone here says he's a JAG.

And no, I asked same question the other day and he can't play in the NHL until his juniors eligibility is over for the season, or something like that.
Let it go dude. Bolduc's a Canadien. Time to move on.

This is why it's called the insane asylum. You try to make a logical point around here and most replies jump straight to an emotional overreaction that totally misses the point.

I couldn't care less that Bolduc's a Canadien. My point is around the same age and league they both posted a goal per game and many think Bolduc is now JAG.

So while I definitely hope Carbs comes up here and kills it like an All-Star, there's a lot of players who post a goal per game down there.

Long story short, I've been burnt by so many Cards prospects that completely flopped my doubt is now so ubiquitous it affects my NHL judgement. lol
To be sure Bolduc was never "goal per game" in the Q btw

105 goals in 126 games isn't quite a GPG but it's pretty close. Probably should have picked a different player to use as an example.

For the record, I hope Carbs averages a goal per game in the NHL. I'm just saying it's really difficult to use minors or juniors' numbers as a future indicator of NHL production. It's the guys who average 2-3 pts per game down there that project as the future stars.

Apparently, I'm insistent on projecting my pessimistic curmudgeonism because of all the prior STL prospects who've fizzled out on us. lol
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blackinkbiz wrote: 03 Dec 2025 11:07 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 03 Dec 2025 08:44 am
blackinkbiz wrote: 02 Dec 2025 21:11 pm
SC Bluenote wrote: 02 Dec 2025 18:58 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 02 Dec 2025 10:43 am
Galatians221jb1 wrote: 01 Dec 2025 18:20 pm https://x.com/stlbluesmuse/status/19949 ... 00064?s=46

Can he be called up?
FWIW, Bolduc essentially did the same thing at the same age in the same league and now everyone here says he's a JAG.

And no, I asked same question the other day and he can't play in the NHL until his juniors eligibility is over for the season, or something like that.
Let it go dude. Bolduc's a Canadien. Time to move on.

This is why it's called the insane asylum. You try to make a logical point around here and most replies jump straight to an emotional overreaction that totally misses the point.

I couldn't care less that Bolduc's a Canadien. My point is around the same age and league they both posted a goal per game and many think Bolduc is now JAG.

So while I definitely hope Carbs comes up here and kills it like an All-Star, there's a lot of players who post a goal per game down there.

Long story short, I've been burnt by so many Cards prospects that completely flopped my doubt is now so ubiquitous it affects my NHL judgement. lol
To be sure Bolduc was never "goal per game" in the Q btw

105 goals in 126 games isn't quite a GPG but it's pretty close. Probably should have picked a different player to use as an example.

For the record, I hope Carbs averages a goal per game in the NHL. I'm just saying it's really difficult to use minors or juniors' numbers as a future indicator of NHL production. It's the guys who average 2-3 pts per game down there that project as the future stars.

Apparently, I'm insistent on projecting my pessimistic curmudgeonism because of all the prior STL prospects who've fizzled out on us. lol
I think everyone would agree the OHL stats are one indicator when they get to the AHL we will get a better look. So far i would say Carbonneau is a higher end prospect than Bolduc for a number of reasons, RH, bigger, physical,skates, hands but as any of us would say time will tell
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2 more goals last night.

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John Cocktoastin wrote: 06 Dec 2025 10:38 am 2 more goals last night.

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one was an unassisted shorty and the other on the PP
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