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dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 08:15 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 00:46 am

There should be NO guaranteed spots in a 12 team playoff. None. Take the best 12 teams.
This should be as obvious as the nose on their faces.

Conferences are not like divisions in pro sports. They compete with each other in every way possible, they do not drive parity just the opposite.

The CFP needs to change this parochial rule and name the 12 best teams in the country.....PERIOD.
There are two paths to take

1) Goal is to win a conference championship. Limit conferences to no more than 14 teams and have the schools play only conference members. Add a playoff if desired. Then for spectacle only, allow conference champions to play in bowl games.

2) Start a playoff system on day 1. Instead of single elimination make it like wrestling with a losers bracket. That would allow one loss teams to win a championship. One day one, all have a chance to win the national title.

All other methods are subjective.
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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:01 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 30 Nov 2025 09:00 am
dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 08:15 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 00:46 am

There should be NO guaranteed spots in a 12 team playoff. None. Take the best 12 teams.
This should be as obvious as the nose on their faces.

Conferences are not like divisions in pro sports. They compete with each other in every way possible, they do not drive parity just the opposite.

The CFP needs to change this parochial rule and name the 12 best teams in the country.....PERIOD.
I like how they pick the 12 - your way would be very bad for college football as a whole.
Why?
because the way it is allows more teams to potentially make the playoffs which in turn keeps more fanbases engaged
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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 00:46 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 18:08 pm Oklahoma beats LSU to stamp their ticket into the CFP. Georgia in. A&M in. Alabama in with a win tonight.

Should Vandy get in? I think they should.

All 4 Mizzou losses this season would be to playoff teams if the above SEC teams all get in.

Meanwhile, B1G and Big 12 schools play 1-2 decent teams all year and easily get in. Stupid.
There should be NO guaranteed spots in a 12 team playoff. None. Take the best 12 teams. The SEC is FAR superior to any of the other conferences top to bottom. Ridiculous that they get penalized for beating up on each other. Not saying there aren't other good, worthy teams. There are. But put Ohio St., Indiana, Oregon, BYU, Norte Dame, etc. in the SEC and see what their final record is.

There are probably 3 or 4 SEC schools that won't get in that should. I would wager the SEC has 7 or 8 of the top 12 BEST teams in the country.
(Bama, Georgia, A&M, Ole Miss, OU, Vandy, Texas, Mizzou)

*Put Mizzou in the B10 and they are likely 10-2 or 11-1. Same for all the listed schools.
Did the Tigers beat a single team with a winning record? (If they did, it' wasn't a power 4 school.)

I get your point, and there's some truth what you're saying, but the Tigers are not a top 12 team. They're probably not even a top 25 team.
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Mizzou wouldn’t be a 10-2/11-1 team in the big 12 let alone the big 10. They barely squeaked by a 5-7 Kansas team… At home!
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On the other hand, aren't all our losses vs CFP teams? & it's not like they were blow out losses.
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dugoutrex wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:46 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:01 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 30 Nov 2025 09:00 am
dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 08:15 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 00:46 am

There should be NO guaranteed spots in a 12 team playoff. None. Take the best 12 teams.
This should be as obvious as the nose on their faces.

Conferences are not like divisions in pro sports. They compete with each other in every way possible, they do not drive parity just the opposite.

The CFP needs to change this parochial rule and name the 12 best teams in the country.....PERIOD.
I like how they pick the 12 - your way would be very bad for college football as a whole.
Why?
because the way it is allows more teams to potentially make the playoffs which in turn keeps more fanbases engaged
So you like having a 12 team playoff that doesn't select the 12 best teams?
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Red Bird Classic wrote: 30 Nov 2025 15:43 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 00:46 am
cardinalsfever44 wrote: 29 Nov 2025 18:08 pm Oklahoma beats LSU to stamp their ticket into the CFP. Georgia in. A&M in. Alabama in with a win tonight.

Should Vandy get in? I think they should.

All 4 Mizzou losses this season would be to playoff teams if the above SEC teams all get in.

Meanwhile, B1G and Big 12 schools play 1-2 decent teams all year and easily get in. Stupid.
There should be NO guaranteed spots in a 12 team playoff. None. Take the best 12 teams. The SEC is FAR superior to any of the other conferences top to bottom. Ridiculous that they get penalized for beating up on each other. Not saying there aren't other good, worthy teams. There are. But put Ohio St., Indiana, Oregon, BYU, Norte Dame, etc. in the SEC and see what their final record is.

There are probably 3 or 4 SEC schools that won't get in that should. I would wager the SEC has 7 or 8 of the top 12 BEST teams in the country.
(Bama, Georgia, A&M, Ole Miss, OU, Vandy, Texas, Mizzou)

*Put Mizzou in the B10 and they are likely 10-2 or 11-1. Same for all the listed schools.
Did the Tigers beat a single team with a winning record? (If they did, it' wasn't a power 4 school.)

I get your point, and there's some truth what you're saying, but the Tigers are not a top 12 team. They're probably not even a top 25 team.
I think Mizzou beats many of the schools in front of them from weaker conferences. Maybe not top 12, but close.
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Re: CFP Thread

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Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 19:11 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:46 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:01 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 30 Nov 2025 09:00 am
dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 08:15 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 00:46 am

There should be NO guaranteed spots in a 12 team playoff. None. Take the best 12 teams.
This should be as obvious as the nose on their faces.

Conferences are not like divisions in pro sports. They compete with each other in every way possible, they do not drive parity just the opposite.

The CFP needs to change this parochial rule and name the 12 best teams in the country.....PERIOD.
I like how they pick the 12 - your way would be very bad for college football as a whole.
Why?
because the way it is allows more teams to potentially make the playoffs which in turn keeps more fanbases engaged
So you like having a 12 team playoff that doesn't select the 12 best teams?
yes - just like the Final 4 tournament doesn't care about the best 64 or 68 or whatever the number is nowadays
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dugoutrex wrote: 01 Dec 2025 10:12 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 19:11 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:46 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:01 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 30 Nov 2025 09:00 am
dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 08:15 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 00:46 am

There should be NO guaranteed spots in a 12 team playoff. None. Take the best 12 teams.
This should be as obvious as the nose on their faces.

Conferences are not like divisions in pro sports. They compete with each other in every way possible, they do not drive parity just the opposite.

The CFP needs to change this parochial rule and name the 12 best teams in the country.....PERIOD.
I like how they pick the 12 - your way would be very bad for college football as a whole.
Why?
because the way it is allows more teams to potentially make the playoffs which in turn keeps more fanbases engaged
So you like having a 12 team playoff that doesn't select the 12 best teams?
yes - just like the Final 4 tournament doesn't care about the best 64 or 68 or whatever the number is nowadays
When you guarantee spots in a 68 team field, there are plenty of at large opportunities. If you don’t make it in basketball you really have zero chance of winning it all. So if you are left out then you have nothing to complain about, because aren’t going to effect the final result at all because you’re no where near good enough.

Football, with only 12 teams, should only take the top 12 teams regardless of conference. Because the 12th best team should and probably does actually have the capability to win it all if the best 12 are taken. As it is now, there will always be 2 maybe 3 teams that have zero chance to win it all. Expand to 32 teams, turn it into an actual tournament, and then you can do automatic qualifiers if we want to be “inclusive”. Not saying I’d be against that. I love the basketball tournament.
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Armchair QB wrote: 01 Dec 2025 10:36 am
dugoutrex wrote: 01 Dec 2025 10:12 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 19:11 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:46 pm
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 14:01 pm
dugoutrex wrote: 30 Nov 2025 09:00 am
dhsux wrote: 30 Nov 2025 08:15 am
Cardinals4Life wrote: 30 Nov 2025 00:46 am

There should be NO guaranteed spots in a 12 team playoff. None. Take the best 12 teams.
This should be as obvious as the nose on their faces.

Conferences are not like divisions in pro sports. They compete with each other in every way possible, they do not drive parity just the opposite.

The CFP needs to change this parochial rule and name the 12 best teams in the country.....PERIOD.
I like how they pick the 12 - your way would be very bad for college football as a whole.
Why?
because the way it is allows more teams to potentially make the playoffs which in turn keeps more fanbases engaged
So you like having a 12 team playoff that doesn't select the 12 best teams?
yes - just like the Final 4 tournament doesn't care about the best 64 or 68 or whatever the number is nowadays
When you guarantee spots in a 68 team field, there are plenty of at large opportunities. If you don’t make it in basketball you really have zero chance of winning it all. So if you are left out then you have nothing to complain about, because aren’t going to effect the final result at all because you’re no where near good enough.

Football, with only 12 teams, should only take the top 12 teams regardless of conference. Because the 12th best team should and probably does actually have the capability to win it all if the best 12 are taken. As it is now, there will always be 2 maybe 3 teams that have zero chance to win it all. Expand to 32 teams, turn it into an actual tournament, and then you can do automatic qualifiers if we want to be “inclusive”. Not saying I’d be against that. I love the basketball tournament.
and I love the football tournament
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Watching these games tonight. So stupid Tulane is going to be in the playoffs. I don’t blame Vandy for being upset, they’d beat Tulane by 2 or 3 TD’s.

We probably would too. I’m 99% sure we’d win.
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