Blues

[Ozziesfan41]

The narrative here on Cards Talk the past few years has been how well run the Blues are and that at least the Blues "try to win".

Well, how's that going for everyone?

I don't think any team in St. Louis gets more of a free pass for constantly underachieving and being bad than the Blues.

So are you happy the blues suck as much as the cardinals? That’s weird

Nope. Just pointing out how odd it is that one team is praised for how well it is run, while the other is criticized to no end, and the results are basically exactly the same.

I don’t like hockey so can’t speak anything about the blues but I don’t think it’s odd to give a free pass to an organization that you view as trying to win the cardinals certainly had some down years under Walt but I never once felt like he was just hoping to win instead of trying to win. When Kent bottenfield won 18 games he flipped him for Edmonds if it was mo he would signed bottenfield to a 4 year extension instead of trading him. For a few years the cardinals had a deep and very good rotation and no middle of the order if mo had just went out to get some big bats to go with it those teams could have made some noise in the post season instead he hoped Adam’s and grichuk would be the middle of the order bats. The cardinals would have good teams going into the trading deadline a few pieces away from having World Series potential and mo would just trade for a reliever and ignore the other holes. Mo actually tried and went all in to fill all of the holes in the team once during his entire time and that was the 2011 deadline and it worked out pretty well. So yea I can give a team a free pass if I think they are trying to win but don’t as a opposed to mo who always hoped to win instead of trying to win

[juan good eye]

Well the blues overachieved last year(weren’t supposed to make the Playoffs), took the best regular season team to the brink of elimination in the first round and the GM publicly stated he wasn’t happy with that.

He fired a coach for no other reason than to bring in a better one

While within the rules, he did Edmonton an absolute dirty by snatching away 2 building blocks for the roster and gave absolutely zero f***s about it. (One of them playing elite level hockey before getting injured thus missing the entire playoff series, see my first point)

They have missed out on three playoff appearances in the last 10 years(1 Stanley Cup, which everyone else in the league but the lightning has either 1 or 0)

They aren’t getting a free pass. They most certainly get chit on. They most certainly do not underachieve though and yes it is easier to give them some leeway on the hate when they not only publicly state but also show the fanbase they are doing absolutely everything they can to win.


Nice try though, Mo.

1 championship in 50+ years. Not good enough for me.

Following a partial “reset” attempted by Army, the awkwardly constructed roster can only hope to compete for 1st first round playoff exits for the foreseeable future. Mediocrity.

Like how Moran the Cards, tens of millions have been wasted on FA acquisitions + extensions with no true superstars coming up through the system.

Also, talking about the last 10 years is a bit of Crannyish. What happened 5-10 years ago is irrelevant to the current team as constructed. The Cup team ran its course, was prematurely effed by the GM, and nothing of legendary substance has materialized since. The day that changes will be a great day.

Yeah they took the Jets seven last year. A great playoff goaltender can steal a series and a head case can choke one away. Let’s not do the hope and prayer thing.

In one point you say the last 5-10 years is irrelevant

In another you feel it’s necessary to bring up their lack of Cups in the last 50 years…….


Also love it when people use that argument when trying to defend the Cardinals and bash the Blues. The ole “1 championship in their entire history!!!” As scouty also did earlier

I love that argument because if we go by that logic then we should all consider the As one of the Crown Jewels of Baseball. See how silly that is now?

Also love that argument because whenever I mention that, those that use that logic suddenly appear to need to take a long term hiatus from the thread

Holy hell you’re ignorant.

[Banner29]

Well the blues overachieved last year(weren’t supposed to make the Playoffs), took the best regular season team to the brink of elimination in the first round and the GM publicly stated he wasn’t happy with that.

He fired a coach for no other reason than to bring in a better one

While within the rules, he did Edmonton an absolute dirty by snatching away 2 building blocks for the roster and gave absolutely zero f***s about it. (One of them playing elite level hockey before getting injured thus missing the entire playoff series, see my first point)

They have missed out on three playoff appearances in the last 10 years(1 Stanley Cup, which everyone else in the league but the lightning has either 1 or 0)

They aren’t getting a free pass. They most certainly get chit on. They most certainly do not underachieve though and yes it is easier to give them some leeway on the hate when they not only publicly state but also show the fanbase they are doing absolutely everything they can to win.


Nice try though, Mo.

1 championship in 50+ years. Not good enough for me.

Following a partial “reset” attempted by Army, the awkwardly constructed roster can only hope to compete for 1st first round playoff exits for the foreseeable future. Mediocrity.

Like how Moran the Cards, tens of millions have been wasted on FA acquisitions + extensions with no true superstars coming up through the system.

Also, talking about the last 10 years is a bit of Crannyish. What happened 5-10 years ago is irrelevant to the current team as constructed. The Cup team ran its course, was prematurely effed by the GM, and nothing of legendary substance has materialized since. The day that changes will be a great day.

Yeah they took the Jets seven last year. A great playoff goaltender can steal a series and a head case can choke one away. Let’s not do the hope and prayer thing.

In one point you say the last 5-10 years is irrelevant

In another you feel it’s necessary to bring up their lack of Cups in the last 50 years…….


Also love it when people use that argument when trying to defend the Cardinals and bash the Blues. The ole “1 championship in their entire history!!!” As scouty also did earlier

I love that argument because if we go by that logic then we should all consider the As one of the Crown Jewels of Baseball. See how silly that is now?

Also love that argument because whenever I mention that, those that use that logic suddenly appear to need to take a long term hiatus from the thread

Holy hell you’re ignorant.

I’ll do a better job addressing your stupidity.

My bad.

[juan good eye]

Well the blues overachieved last year(weren’t supposed to make the Playoffs), took the best regular season team to the brink of elimination in the first round and the GM publicly stated he wasn’t happy with that.

He fired a coach for no other reason than to bring in a better one

While within the rules, he did Edmonton an absolute dirty by snatching away 2 building blocks for the roster and gave absolutely zero f***s about it. (One of them playing elite level hockey before getting injured thus missing the entire playoff series, see my first point)

They have missed out on three playoff appearances in the last 10 years(1 Stanley Cup, which everyone else in the league but the lightning has either 1 or 0)

They aren’t getting a free pass. They most certainly get chit on. They most certainly do not underachieve though and yes it is easier to give them some leeway on the hate when they not only publicly state but also show the fanbase they are doing absolutely everything they can to win.


Nice try though, Mo.

1 championship in 50+ years. Not good enough for me.

Following a partial “reset” attempted by Army, the awkwardly constructed roster can only hope to compete for 1st first round playoff exits for the foreseeable future. Mediocrity.

Like how Moran the Cards, tens of millions have been wasted on FA acquisitions + extensions with no true superstars coming up through the system.

Also, talking about the last 10 years is a bit of Crannyish. What happened 5-10 years ago is irrelevant to the current team as constructed. The Cup team ran its course, was prematurely effed by the GM, and nothing of legendary substance has materialized since. The day that changes will be a great day.

Yeah they took the Jets seven last year. A great playoff goaltender can steal a series and a head case can choke one away. Let’s not do the hope and prayer thing.

In one point you say the last 5-10 years is irrelevant

In another you feel it’s necessary to bring up their lack of Cups in the last 50 years…….


Also love it when people use that argument when trying to defend the Cardinals and bash the Blues. The ole “1 championship in their entire history!!!” As scouty also did earlier

I love that argument because if we go by that logic then we should all consider the As one of the Crown Jewels of Baseball. See how silly that is now?

Also love that argument because whenever I mention that, those that use that logic suddenly appear to need to take a long term hiatus from the thread

Holy hell you’re ignorant.

I’ll do a better job addressing your stupidity.

My bad.

Spend your energy on being less of a dumb[ash], dumb[ash].

[Banner29]

Well the blues overachieved last year(weren’t supposed to make the Playoffs), took the best regular season team to the brink of elimination in the first round and the GM publicly stated he wasn’t happy with that.

He fired a coach for no other reason than to bring in a better one

While within the rules, he did Edmonton an absolute dirty by snatching away 2 building blocks for the roster and gave absolutely zero f***s about it. (One of them playing elite level hockey before getting injured thus missing the entire playoff series, see my first point)

They have missed out on three playoff appearances in the last 10 years(1 Stanley Cup, which everyone else in the league but the lightning has either 1 or 0)

They aren’t getting a free pass. They most certainly get chit on. They most certainly do not underachieve though and yes it is easier to give them some leeway on the hate when they not only publicly state but also show the fanbase they are doing absolutely everything they can to win.


Nice try though, Mo.

1 championship in 50+ years. Not good enough for me.

Following a partial “reset” attempted by Army, the awkwardly constructed roster can only hope to compete for 1st first round playoff exits for the foreseeable future. Mediocrity.

Like how Moran the Cards, tens of millions have been wasted on FA acquisitions + extensions with no true superstars coming up through the system.

Also, talking about the last 10 years is a bit of Crannyish. What happened 5-10 years ago is irrelevant to the current team as constructed. The Cup team ran its course, was prematurely effed by the GM, and nothing of legendary substance has materialized since. The day that changes will be a great day.

Yeah they took the Jets seven last year. A great playoff goaltender can steal a series and a head case can choke one away. Let’s not do the hope and prayer thing.

In one point you say the last 5-10 years is irrelevant

In another you feel it’s necessary to bring up their lack of Cups in the last 50 years…….


Also love it when people use that argument when trying to defend the Cardinals and bash the Blues. The ole “1 championship in their entire history!!!” As scouty also did earlier

I love that argument because if we go by that logic then we should all consider the As one of the Crown Jewels of Baseball. See how silly that is now?

Also love that argument because whenever I mention that, those that use that logic suddenly appear to need to take a long term hiatus from the thread

Holy hell you’re ignorant.

I’ll do a better job addressing your stupidity.

My bad.

Spend your energy on being less of a dumb[ash], dumb[ash].

I laugh because I just know it took you hours to think of a response only to come up with that