+/- Interesting...

[Mr.Snuggleupagus]

Plus /Minus is a sympton, not a cause.

The symptom of having a poor +/- is caused from playing losing hockey.
The symptom of having a losing record is caused from having a poor +/-.

[Old_Goat]

Plus /Minus is a sympton, not a cause.

The symptom of having a poor +/- is caused from playing losing hockey.
The symptom of having a losing record is caused from having a poor +/-.

Right. Thank you. His identifying correctly what is a symptom was a good point. And your identifying the cause (problem) of playing as losers is good as well. Finally, the RESULT is losing hockey.

[son_of_foolsgold]

Kessel +2
Joseph +1
Tucker 0
Suter 0

Everybody else -X

I think it is interesting that Kessel and Tucker look good by this flawed metric.

It's only flawed because of ice time...Kessel and Tucker don't get nearly as much as the other d

[Mr.Snuggleupagus]

Kessel +2
Joseph +1
Tucker 0
Suter 0

Everybody else -X

I think it is interesting that Kessel and Tucker look good by this flawed metric.

It's only flawed because of ice time...Kessel and Tucker don't get nearly as much as the other d

The big boys, getting paid the big bucks (and former 1st rounders) receive the most ice time. As it should be.

As of now, Tucker & Kessel have been adequate for their pay scale.

[HighStick]

Plus /Minus is a sympton, not a cause.

This team has a lot of tell tale symptoms right now.

Very good point.

No it's not.

Plus hockey = winning hockey
Minus hockey = losing hockey

Simple as that.

The only guys on the team that are playing "winning" hockey are Kessel and Joseph.

[seattleblue]

Kessel had a nice game last night. He gets a lot of criticism on here, and most of it is deserved, but he was solid last night. The goal was a bonus.

Not a Kessel fan but even I think he’s been ok lately. I would still like to see what Skinner can do. He played with a lot of energy in the preseason.

Kessel has been ok lately. I am highly open to Kessel returning to his debut form which was actually good a couple years ago.

I have really liked Skinner from what I have seen this year, looking forward to his debut. He isn't going to be Parayko but I guarantee that he will make one good play and thereby surpass Mailloux. There was a whole different "real NHL" feel when Lindstein-Skinner was the pairing

[Harry York 37]

Kessel had a nice game last night. He gets a lot of criticism on here, and most of it is deserved, but he was solid last night. The goal was a bonus.

Not a Kessel fan but even I think he’s been ok lately. I would still like to see what Skinner can do. He played with a lot of energy in the preseason.

Kessel has been ok lately. I am highly open to Kessel returning to his debut form which was actually good a couple years ago.

I have really liked Skinner from what I have seen this year, looking forward to his debut. He isn't going to be Parayko but I guarantee that he will make one good play and thereby surpass Mailloux. There was a whole different "real NHL" feel when Lindstein-Skinner was the pairing

Great points.
I like the calmness of Skinner- even as he is in a heated altercation. He reminds me of Moose Dupont in that way.

If he blossoms and Kessel regains his previous form, Mailloux can take his time learning what he needs to learn in a place where learning on the job is more permissible,