Interesting tidbit about the current NHL scoring leaders

[JoshInFenton]

Lol, this is SO Blues. One of these things is not like the others...

2009: John Tavares, New York Islanders

2008: Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning

2007: Patrick Kane, Chicago Blackhawks

2006: Erik Johnson, St. Louis Blues

2005: Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins

2004: Alexander Ovechkin, Washington Capitals

2003: Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins

2002: Rick Nash, Columbus Blue Jackets

2001: Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta Thrashers

Sometimes its simply more about what year you draft 1st overall then how many times you do.

Or about who you let drive the golf carts.

[TheJackBurton]

Lol, this is SO Blues. One of these things is not like the others...

2009: John Tavares, New York Islanders

2008: Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning

2007: Patrick Kane, Chicago Blackhawks

2006: Erik Johnson, St. Louis Blues

2005: Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins

2004: Alexander Ovechkin, Washington Capitals

2003: Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins

2002: Rick Nash, Columbus Blue Jackets

2001: Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta Thrashers

Sometimes its simply more about what year you draft 1st overall then how many times you do.

Or about who you let drive the golf carts.

Definitely won't be Manny Legace anytime in the future

[-Blueski-]

Lol, this is SO Blues. One of these things is not like the others...

2009: John Tavares, New York Islanders

2008: Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning

2007: Patrick Kane, Chicago Blackhawks

2006: Erik Johnson, St. Louis Blues

2005: Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins

2004: Alexander Ovechkin, Washington Capitals

2003: Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins

2002: Rick Nash, Columbus Blue Jackets

2001: Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta Thrashers

Sometimes its simply more about what year you draft 1st overall then how many times you do.

It would still look better with any of the next four picks after Johnson... Staal, Toews, Backstrom, Kessel

2006 Blues Draft:
Rd 1 -- Erik Johnson (1023 NHL games)
Rd 1 -- Patrik Berglund (717 NHL games)
Rd 2 -- Tomas Kana (6 NHL games)
Rd 3 -- Jonas Junland (2 NHL games)
Rd 4 -- Ryan Turek ( 0 NHL games)
Rd 4 -- Reta Berra (76 NHL games)
Rd 5 -- Andy Sackrison ( 0 NHL games)
Rd 6 -- Matthew McCollem ( 0 NHL games)
Rd 7 -- Alexander Hellstrom ( 0 NHL games)

[Old_Goat]

I've always loved the Johnson pic more than the Johnson pick.

Outstanding post!!!!!

I literally laughed out loud!...

[Old_Goat]

Lol, this is SO Blues. One of these things is not like the others...

2009: John Tavares, New York Islanders

2008: Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning

2007: Patrick Kane, Chicago Blackhawks

2006: Erik Johnson, St. Louis Blues

2005: Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins

2004: Alexander Ovechkin, Washington Capitals

2003: Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins

2002: Rick Nash, Columbus Blue Jackets

2001: Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta Thrashers

Sometimes its simply more about what year you draft 1st overall then how many times you do.

It would still look better with any of the next four picks after Johnson... Staal, Toews, Backstrom, Kessel

2006 Blues Draft:
Rd 1 -- Erik Johnson (1023 NHL games)
Rd 1 -- Patrik Berglund (717 NHL games)
Rd 2 -- Tomas Kana (6 NHL games)
Rd 3 -- Jonas Junland (2 NHL games)
Rd 4 -- Ryan Turek ( 0 NHL games)
Rd 4 -- Reta Berra (76 NHL games)
Rd 5 -- Andy Sackrison ( 0 NHL games)
Rd 6 -- Matthew McCollem ( 0 NHL games)
Rd 7 -- Alexander Hellstrom ( 0 NHL games)

You are exactly right. I've said it for the past 19 years...we had a 4-in-5 chance of NOT screwing it up. And at least 2 chances at the time (turned out to be 3) of getting the cornerstone Centerman that we have not had since Turgeon... With Staal still producing at a decent level.

[TheJackBurton]

Lol, this is SO Blues. One of these things is not like the others...

2009: John Tavares, New York Islanders

2008: Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning

2007: Patrick Kane, Chicago Blackhawks

2006: Erik Johnson, St. Louis Blues

2005: Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins

2004: Alexander Ovechkin, Washington Capitals

2003: Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins

2002: Rick Nash, Columbus Blue Jackets

2001: Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta Thrashers

Sometimes its simply more about what year you draft 1st overall then how many times you do.

It would still look better with any of the next four picks after Johnson... Staal, Toews, Backstrom, Kessel

2006 Blues Draft:
Rd 1 -- Erik Johnson (1023 NHL games)
Rd 1 -- Patrik Berglund (717 NHL games)
Rd 2 -- Tomas Kana (6 NHL games)
Rd 3 -- Jonas Junland (2 NHL games)
Rd 4 -- Ryan Turek ( 0 NHL games)
Rd 4 -- Reta Berra (76 NHL games)
Rd 5 -- Andy Sackrison ( 0 NHL games)
Rd 6 -- Matthew McCollem ( 0 NHL games)
Rd 7 -- Alexander Hellstrom ( 0 NHL games)

Yes I agree with that, however you'd be hard pressed to find more than a scant few scouts at the time who didn't like the pick. He was very easily the consensus #1 pick at the time of the draft on most professionals boards. He was coming off a great World Championship, was a fantastic skater, great outlet pass, and a great shot. The one area he was absolutely lacking was hockey IQ.

He didn't have a spectacular rookie season, but it was enough to make you think that he was going to live up to the hype.

Then the golf outing happened. That cost him 18 months of development and that ended any chance of him getting to that next level.

could you imagine a top 2 of Petro and Johnson if Johnson had gotten to the level he was predicted to go to?

Do remember the consensus #1 at the beginning of the year was...drumroll please... Phil Kessel and he ended up going 5th overall to Boston. Then just 3 years later they traded him to Toronto due to him being a RFA and they couldn't agree on a contract. They trade Kessel for 3 picks that ended up essentially helping Boston get over the hump to their Stanley Cup win. They got Torontos first round and second rounder in 2010 and their first rounder in 2011. The first rounder in 2010 was the huge mistake as it ended up being the #2 overall and Boston took Seguin with it and he was very a very important part of that Stanley cup run and the 2011 first rounder was #9 overall and they took Dougie Hamilton.

Could you imagine trading for a Phil Kessel type of forward today and giving up 2 first rounders and a 2nd rounder and both first rounders end up being top 10 picks? There's simply no way we'll see a trade like that again. At least one of those picks would be top 10 protected.

Phil Kessel is living proof that unless you are Celebrini, a Bedard, or one of those types the worst thing you can be at the beginning of the season is the expected #1 overall. All they are going to do is spend the year picking you apart and looking for qualities in other players to find reasons to draft them ahead of you.

Lastly, and this got a lot more long winded than I expected, other than Berglund and ultimately Johnson did have a long career and won a Stanley Cup, that is a god awful draft. We barely hit on anything other than the two first rounders. I am so glad our drafting has improved by leaps and bounds where we are getting some quality in the later rounds and hitting at a pretty good clip in the first 2.

[MiamiLaw]

Jack - I want to say that my post was not there to blame the Blues as EJ was absolutely the consensus #1 pick at the time. Ultimately, I guess Toews was probably the best pick but not really a great #1 no matter who you chose that year even with hindsight.

My post was more to point out how it is just so fitting that the Blues got the 1 OA on the EJ year. Basically every other #1 pick that decade is a lock HOFer, and the majority are absolute legends.

[theograce]

Jack - I want to say that my post was not there to blame the Blues as EJ was absolutely the consensus #1 pick at the time. Ultimately, I guess Toews was probably the best pick but not really a great #1 no matter who you chose that year even with hindsight.

My post was more to point out how it is just so fitting that the Blues got the 1 OA on the EJ year. Basically every other #1 pick that decade is a lock HOFer, and the majority are absolute legends.

How was Toews not a great #1? He’s a lock hofer

[MiamiLaw]

Jack - I want to say that my post was not there to blame the Blues as EJ was absolutely the consensus #1 pick at the time. Ultimately, I guess Toews was probably the best pick but not really a great #1 no matter who you chose that year even with hindsight.

My post was more to point out how it is just so fitting that the Blues got the 1 OA on the EJ year. Basically every other #1 pick that decade is a lock HOFer, and the majority are absolute legends.

How was Toews not a great #1? He’s a lock hofer

Compared to the almost all others on that list, he’s a tier below at least. A great top 5 pick, but for a No 1 he’s still a lower caliber

[theograce]

Jack - I want to say that my post was not there to blame the Blues as EJ was absolutely the consensus #1 pick at the time. Ultimately, I guess Toews was probably the best pick but not really a great #1 no matter who you chose that year even with hindsight.

My post was more to point out how it is just so fitting that the Blues got the 1 OA on the EJ year. Basically every other #1 pick that decade is a lock HOFer, and the majority are absolute legends.

How was Toews not a great #1? He’s a lock hofer

Compared to the almost all others on that list, he’s a tier below at least. A great top 5 pick, but for a No 1 he’s still a lower caliber

On points maybe? One of the most clutch players I’ve ever watched and one of the best guys in the dots of all time. Plus he elevated and his compete is legendary

[TAFKAP]

Lol, this is SO Blues. One of these things is not like the others...

2009: John Tavares, New York Islanders

2008: Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning

2007: Patrick Kane, Chicago Blackhawks

2006: Erik Johnson, St. Louis Blues

2005: Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins

2004: Alexander Ovechkin, Washington Capitals

2003: Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins

2002: Rick Nash, Columbus Blue Jackets

2001: Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta Thrashers

That is the most disappointing/disturbing graphic I've seen on this board. And that's saying a lot.

The list that I found more depressing was from 2018. In that year. of the Top 4 Winningest Coaches in NHL history, no team in their history had hired more than 2 of them.

Except the Blues, which had hired all 4, with ZERO Stanley Cups.

Bowman
Arbour
Quenneville
Hitchcock

2019 fixed a lot of things with this franchise.

[Hazelwood72]

Lol, this is SO Blues. One of these things is not like the others...

2009: John Tavares, New York Islanders

2008: Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning

2007: Patrick Kane, Chicago Blackhawks

2006: Erik Johnson, St. Louis Blues

2005: Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins

2004: Alexander Ovechkin, Washington Capitals

2003: Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins

2002: Rick Nash, Columbus Blue Jackets

2001: Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta Thrashers

That is the most disappointing/disturbing graphic I've seen on this board. And that's saying a lot.

The list that I found more depressing was from 2018. In that year. of the Top 4 Winningest Coaches in NHL history, no team in their history had hired more than 2 of them.

Except the Blues, which had hired all 4, with ZERO Stanley Cups.

Bowman
Arbour
Quenneville
Hitchcock

2019 fixed a lot of things with this franchise.

Blues fan since 1968 here. TAFKAP, I remember this list too. Bowman & Arbour left because of Sid Salomon III who got the big head and thought he knew more about hockey than the pros. Quenneville was a casualty of the period of revolving door ownership.

As we old timers know, the Blues first 35-40 years were a chaotic revolving door of near bankruptcy, near leaving, and underfunded ownership.

All part of the “charm” of the Blues. If you love underdogs, we are it!

That’s what made our Cup win in 2019 so joyous and unexpected. The dog finally got its day!!