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Re: Skinner/LM

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Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 10 Nov 2025 10:34 am
Army's Mom wrote: 10 Nov 2025 09:52 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Nov 2025 09:02 am Ryan Smith:

"Blues fans, you'll like the way Skinner plays the game. Great skater, plays with supreme confidence and fire, and will tattoo unsuspecting forwards when opportunity presents itself. Like Tyler Tucker, he's not afraid to throw down if the situation calls for it."
I read that as further proof that Tucker is valued for, and only for, his willingness to fight...
When I watch Tucker, I don't get it. I like him as a 7th guy. But not everyday. And kessel bothers me. If the puck is on their stick i instantly think that this is getting turned over and there's zero chance for a breakout.
Either Blues staff overestimated Tucker bigly.....or they dont want to lock in anyone else because they know Lindstein is coming soon? Idk.

Suter Mailloux would have made a lot more sense
I agree on Suter/Mailloux. I’m not sure if they wanted to bring him back or not, and he hasn’t caught on with anyone else. He hasn’t retired, though, which is interesting. He’ll be 41 soon, so maybe he is keeping in shape and will sign on with someone later in the season, though guessing it won’t be the Blues at this point. He might make a solid depth guy for a legit playoff team. But pairing him with Mailloux would have made a lot of sense.

On Tucker, he looked really good in the playoffs (admittedly only 3 games) before he got hurt. Maybe the Blues thought he was ready to take his game to another level. Maybe he just needs more time to come back from what turned out to be a pretty serious injury, or maybe this is just who he is (most likely).

I’m hoping that Skinner can step up and be a solid 3rd pairing guy. I always assumed that he was nothing more than a throw in on that trade, and he probably was, so it would be a nice surprise if he can play at the NHL level.
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Re: Skinner/LM

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Frank Underwood wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:01 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 10 Nov 2025 10:34 am
Army's Mom wrote: 10 Nov 2025 09:52 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Nov 2025 09:02 am Ryan Smith:

"Blues fans, you'll like the way Skinner plays the game. Great skater, plays with supreme confidence and fire, and will tattoo unsuspecting forwards when opportunity presents itself. Like Tyler Tucker, he's not afraid to throw down if the situation calls for it."
I read that as further proof that Tucker is valued for, and only for, his willingness to fight...
When I watch Tucker, I don't get it. I like him as a 7th guy. But not everyday. And kessel bothers me. If the puck is on their stick i instantly think that this is getting turned over and there's zero chance for a breakout.
Either Blues staff overestimated Tucker bigly.....or they dont want to lock in anyone else because they know Lindstein is coming soon? Idk.

Suter Mailloux would have made a lot more sense
I agree on Suter/Mailloux. I’m not sure if they wanted to bring him back or not, and he hasn’t caught on with anyone else. He hasn’t retired, though, which is interesting. He’ll be 41 soon, so maybe he is keeping in shape and will sign on with someone later in the season, though guessing it won’t be the Blues at this point. He might make a solid depth guy for a legit playoff team. But pairing him with Mailloux would have made a lot of sense.

On Tucker, he looked really good in the playoffs (admittedly only 3 games) before he got hurt. Maybe the Blues thought he was ready to take his game to another level. Maybe he just needs more time to come back from what turned out to be a pretty serious injury, or maybe this is just who he is (most likely).

I’m hoping that Skinner can step up and be a solid 3rd pairing guy. I always assumed that he was nothing more than a throw in on that trade, and he probably was, so it would be a nice surprise if he can play at the NHL level.
Word is that he wasn't happy about being benched in the playoffs. Not sure how deep that went but the bridge may be burned there. Suter isn't known as being the nicest guy...
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Re: Skinner/LM

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Whoever said Skinner is a good skater, i strongly disagree, that’s always been one of the knocks against him that his skating wasn’t good. He still deserves a shot and I’m looking forward to seeing what he can do and hopefully play physical.
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Re: Skinner/LM

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MiamiLaw wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:10 pm
Frank Underwood wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:01 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 10 Nov 2025 10:34 am
Army's Mom wrote: 10 Nov 2025 09:52 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Nov 2025 09:02 am Ryan Smith:

"Blues fans, you'll like the way Skinner plays the game. Great skater, plays with supreme confidence and fire, and will tattoo unsuspecting forwards when opportunity presents itself. Like Tyler Tucker, he's not afraid to throw down if the situation calls for it."
I read that as further proof that Tucker is valued for, and only for, his willingness to fight...
When I watch Tucker, I don't get it. I like him as a 7th guy. But not everyday. And kessel bothers me. If the puck is on their stick i instantly think that this is getting turned over and there's zero chance for a breakout.
Either Blues staff overestimated Tucker bigly.....or they dont want to lock in anyone else because they know Lindstein is coming soon? Idk.

Suter Mailloux would have made a lot more sense
I agree on Suter/Mailloux. I’m not sure if they wanted to bring him back or not, and he hasn’t caught on with anyone else. He hasn’t retired, though, which is interesting. He’ll be 41 soon, so maybe he is keeping in shape and will sign on with someone later in the season, though guessing it won’t be the Blues at this point. He might make a solid depth guy for a legit playoff team. But pairing him with Mailloux would have made a lot of sense.

On Tucker, he looked really good in the playoffs (admittedly only 3 games) before he got hurt. Maybe the Blues thought he was ready to take his game to another level. Maybe he just needs more time to come back from what turned out to be a pretty serious injury, or maybe this is just who he is (most likely).

I’m hoping that Skinner can step up and be a solid 3rd pairing guy. I always assumed that he was nothing more than a throw in on that trade, and he probably was, so it would be a nice surprise if he can play at the NHL level.
Word is that he wasn't happy about being benched in the playoffs. Not sure how deep that went but the bridge may be burned there. Suter isn't known as being the nicest guy...
Maybe Suter figured, why wear out and risk potential injury and travel/grind away from family during a long season? And also risk being on any team that may not have a really good chance to win a Cup. That's likely the most significant thing he has not done in his career. This way he can work out on his own and near the end of the season, he can assess who can and may be interested in his services to increase the chances for both him and whatever team to achieve the goal. He has better control to enhance the chances. He certainly has plenty of experience on what training regimen it takes to stay in playing shape, such that not many game reps will get him up to speed.
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Re: Skinner/LM

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Ryan Suter wants to be an everyday player, not rotating in & out of the lineup splitting time with Tucker & Mailloux.

He don't want to play for us, you all need to forget about him.
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Re: Skinner/LM

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Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:33 pm Ryan Suter wants to be an everyday player, not rotating in & out of the lineup splitting time with Tucker & Mailloux.

He don't want to play for us, you all need to forget about him.
I would have gave him(or someone similar) that 5th spot and had the prospects sharing the 6th spot.
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skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:43 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:33 pm Ryan Suter wants to be an everyday player, not rotating in & out of the lineup splitting time with Tucker & Mailloux.

He don't want to play for us, you all need to forget about him.
I would have gave him(or someone similar) that 5th spot and had the prospects sharing the 6th spot.
The Blues wouldn't guarantee him he wouldn't be a healthy scratch from time to time, so he said "see ya".
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Re: Skinner/LM

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Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:46 pm
skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:43 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:33 pm Ryan Suter wants to be an everyday player, not rotating in & out of the lineup splitting time with Tucker & Mailloux.

He don't want to play for us, you all need to forget about him.
I would have gave him(or someone similar) that 5th spot and had the prospects sharing the 6th spot.
The Blues wouldn't guarantee him he wouldn't be a healthy scratch from time to time, so he said "see ya".
No player is ever guaranteed that nor should they be so I doubt it.
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Re: Skinner/LM

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skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:56 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:46 pm
skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:43 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:33 pm Ryan Suter wants to be an everyday player, not rotating in & out of the lineup splitting time with Tucker & Mailloux.

He don't want to play for us, you all need to forget about him.
I would have gave him(or someone similar) that 5th spot and had the prospects sharing the 6th spot.
The Blues wouldn't guarantee him he wouldn't be a healthy scratch from time to time, so he said "see ya".
No player is ever guaranteed that nor should they be so I doubt it.
That's what Alex Ferrario said last week on the radio.
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Re: Skinner/LM

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Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:58 pm
skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:56 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:46 pm
skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:43 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:33 pm Ryan Suter wants to be an everyday player, not rotating in & out of the lineup splitting time with Tucker & Mailloux.

He don't want to play for us, you all need to forget about him.
I would have gave him(or someone similar) that 5th spot and had the prospects sharing the 6th spot.
The Blues wouldn't guarantee him he wouldn't be a healthy scratch from time to time, so he said "see ya".
No player is ever guaranteed that nor should they be so I doubt it.
That's what Alex Ferrario said last week on the radio.
Well players that fill that role are not that hard to come by but like I said I seriously doubt that is the case.
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Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:46 pm
skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:43 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:33 pm Ryan Suter wants to be an everyday player, not rotating in & out of the lineup splitting time with Tucker & Mailloux.

He don't want to play for us, you all need to forget about him.
I would have gave him(or someone similar) that 5th spot and had the prospects sharing the 6th spot.
The Blues wouldn't guarantee him he wouldn't be a healthy scratch from time to time, so he said "see ya".
Is he even playing in the league?
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Re: Skinner/LM

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skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 19:11 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:58 pm
skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:56 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:46 pm
skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:43 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:33 pm Ryan Suter wants to be an everyday player, not rotating in & out of the lineup splitting time with Tucker & Mailloux.

He don't want to play for us, you all need to forget about him.
I would have gave him(or someone similar) that 5th spot and had the prospects sharing the 6th spot.
The Blues wouldn't guarantee him he wouldn't be a healthy scratch from time to time, so he said "see ya".
No player is ever guaranteed that nor should they be so I doubt it.
That's what Alex Ferrario said last week on the radio.
Well players that fill that role are not that hard to come by but like I said I seriously doubt that is the case.
You'll have to take that up with Alex Ferrario, Brandon Kylie and Donny Fandango.
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Re: Skinner/LM

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Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 20:09 pm
skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 19:11 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:58 pm
skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:56 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:46 pm
skilles wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:43 pm
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 10 Nov 2025 18:33 pm Ryan Suter wants to be an everyday player, not rotating in & out of the lineup splitting time with Tucker & Mailloux.

He don't want to play for us, you all need to forget about him.
I would have gave him(or someone similar) that 5th spot and had the prospects sharing the 6th spot.
The Blues wouldn't guarantee him he wouldn't be a healthy scratch from time to time, so he said "see ya".
No player is ever guaranteed that nor should they be so I doubt it.
That's what Alex Ferrario said last week on the radio.
Well players that fill that role are not that hard to come by but like I said I seriously doubt that is the case.
You'll have to take that up with Alex Ferrario, Brandon Kylie and Donny Fandango.
I think its more likley the Blues informed him he was going to be a healthy scratch most nights than it is they wouldn't guarantee he would never be a healthy scratch.....are we sure thats not what they actually said?
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Younghopp1991 wrote: 09 Nov 2025 08:22 am
Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Nov 2025 08:03 am Skinner should have made the team out of camp. Actually looking forward to seeing him play.
I thought skinner looked good in camp also. He likes to step up and be aggressive disrupting plays.

Hoping LM can get something to click. He has a load of skill. Everyone learns differently. Maybe he is just one of those types that makes learning very hard on themselves until they get it. I am like that when it comes the learning a new job or process. Im quiet, stand-offish, mind moving 1000mph. But once the process is developed, the rest is art. Wishin LM the best
The difference between a job and doing this is that on a job, you can generally think about doing the right thing for a few seconds. In major league sports, the decisions have to be correct in tenths of a second or you fail. You can be highly skilled and be a tenth of a second slower than everyone around you with respect to decision making and no longer be in the league after a short period of time. In baseball, we are seeing this failure with Jordan Walker and Nolan Gorman not being able to recognize breaking pitches fast enough. Hopefully he figures it out. But it is far from certain.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Nov 2025 08:03 am Skinner should have made the team out of camp. Actually looking forward to seeing him play.
Totally agree...the only reason he didn't. well you know why...
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Re: Skinner/LM

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Frank Underwood wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:01 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 10 Nov 2025 10:34 am
Army's Mom wrote: 10 Nov 2025 09:52 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Nov 2025 09:02 am Ryan Smith:

"Blues fans, you'll like the way Skinner plays the game. Great skater, plays with supreme confidence and fire, and will tattoo unsuspecting forwards when opportunity presents itself. Like Tyler Tucker, he's not afraid to throw down if the situation calls for it."
I read that as further proof that Tucker is valued for, and only for, his willingness to fight...
When I watch Tucker, I don't get it. I like him as a 7th guy. But not everyday. And kessel bothers me. If the puck is on their stick i instantly think that this is getting turned over and there's zero chance for a breakout.
Either Blues staff overestimated Tucker bigly.....or they dont want to lock in anyone else because they know Lindstein is coming soon? Idk.

Suter Mailloux would have made a lot more sense
I agree on Suter/Mailloux. I’m not sure if they wanted to bring him back or not, and he hasn’t caught on with anyone else. He hasn’t retired, though, which is interesting. He’ll be 41 soon, so maybe he is keeping in shape and will sign on with someone later in the season, though guessing it won’t be the Blues at this point. He might make a solid depth guy for a legit playoff team. But pairing him with Mailloux would have made a lot of sense.

On Tucker, he looked really good in the playoffs (admittedly only 3 games) before he got hurt. Maybe the Blues thought he was ready to take his game to another level. Maybe he just needs more time to come back from what turned out to be a pretty serious injury, or maybe this is just who he is (most likely).

I’m hoping that Skinner can step up and be a solid 3rd pairing guy. I always assumed that he was nothing more than a throw in on that trade, and he probably was, so it would be a nice surprise if he can play at the NHL level.
Just a reminder that Skinner, Tucker, Kessel and Rosen have all gone through waivers unclaimed at one point in their career, Skinner and Rosen as recently as last month. That means all teams could have claimed them for nothing. If Mailloux was put on waivers (he's not eligible, just hypothetically), he would be claimed by most if not all teams with the team with the worst record getting him. The reason: long term talent level.

I just hope that one of Skinner, Tucker, Kessel or Rosen can become a reliable 6th/7th dman in the bigger scheme of things for the Blues, with Lindstein and Mailloux becoming mainstays by sometime later in this season.
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