dhsux wrote: ↑10 Nov 2025 08:38 am
I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.
When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)
Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
Broberg is a decent player. I certainly wouldn't call him a stud but that's an opinion.
But the real question is whether you are OK with him being the highest paid player on the team? I think that would be a tough sell in the room and he certainly is not even close to the most valuable player on the team. I get that the cap has increased a lot and it is relative to that, but these things do matter in the room, like it or not.
Like it or not, the cap has risen 20% since Thomas and Kyrou have signed their deals. I get not wanting anyone to eclipse what Thomas is making (8.125) but it is pure folly to ignore the upward cap and how it affects contracts. There are numerous contracts that have been signed for "stupid" money in the last 3-5 months, many of them defenseman. Are we to believe that everyone of those contracts caused an uproar in the locker room?
Depends on the players, but guys that view themselves as the best players on the team absolutely care about being paid accordingly and I don't blame them. If you know you are the most valuable guy at your job, would you like it if some guy that is maybe 5th or 6th on the totem poll was making more? Of course not. These guys are human. This is their job and sometimes it is hard for us to remember that. Some care more than others and react more strongly than others, same as in the "real" world, but it's only natural that it would be on their mind.
When guys like Thomas and Kyrou sign long term contracts they are either aware other players might come along and get paid more or they would be incredibly naive and financially illiterate. Also, there are motivating factors aside from pure salary, McDavid for instance, or perhaps a player with a family who has set roots, attractions to a particular city, area, or team, or even aversion to long plane flights.
Logically they should know that of course but we see time and time again teams avoid paying support players more than their top guys. What team in the league has a 2nd pair dman getting paid more than their 1C? It just doesn't happen.
Who's the 2nd pair guy here?
Not gonna go through the whole league, but here are two of the first four teams I pulled up on puckpedia:
Buffalo: Dahlin and Power each make substantially more then Tage Thompson, and more than Norris.
Min: Faber, Spurgeon, and Brodin all make more than Eriksson Ek and Rossi.
dhsux wrote: ↑10 Nov 2025 08:38 am
I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.
When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)
Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
Broberg is a decent player. I certainly wouldn't call him a stud but that's an opinion.
But the real question is whether you are OK with him being the highest paid player on the team? I think that would be a tough sell in the room and he certainly is not even close to the most valuable player on the team. I get that the cap has increased a lot and it is relative to that, but these things do matter in the room, like it or not.
Like it or not, the cap has risen 20% since Thomas and Kyrou have signed their deals. I get not wanting anyone to eclipse what Thomas is making (8.125) but it is pure folly to ignore the upward cap and how it affects contracts. There are numerous contracts that have been signed for "stupid" money in the last 3-5 months, many of them defenseman. Are we to believe that everyone of those contracts caused an uproar in the locker room?
Depends on the players, but guys that view themselves as the best players on the team absolutely care about being paid accordingly and I don't blame them. If you know you are the most valuable guy at your job, would you like it if some guy that is maybe 5th or 6th on the totem poll was making more? Of course not. These guys are human. This is their job and sometimes it is hard for us to remember that. Some care more than others and react more strongly than others, same as in the "real" world, but it's only natural that it would be on their mind.
When guys like Thomas and Kyrou sign long term contracts they are either aware other players might come along and get paid more or they would be incredibly naive and financially illiterate. Also, there are motivating factors aside from pure salary, McDavid for instance, or perhaps a player with a family who has set roots, attractions to a particular city, area, or team, or even aversion to long plane flights.
Logically they should know that of course but we see time and time again teams avoid paying support players more than their top guys. What team in the league has a 2nd pair dman getting paid more than their 1C? It just doesn't happen.
Who's the 2nd pair guy here?
Not gonna go through the whole league, but here are two of the first four teams I pulled up on puckpedia:
Buffalo: Dahlin and Power each make substantially more then Tage Thompson, and more than Norris.
Min: Faber, Spurgeon, and Brodin all make more than Eriksson Ek and Rossi.
Broberg, right now, looks to be a 2nd pairing defenseman if you are talking about contending. He has not shown himself as anything more for significant stretches of time. On a bad team, anyone could be a first pair but I have yet to see consistency that would put him as a legit top pair.
The Buffalo situation is a true fluke as Tage signed that contract right before he broke out and, in any event, Power and Dahlin are significantly higher regarded than Broberg. They are true first pairing guys.
The Minnesota is a bit closer I guess but really only Faber is comparable age wise and he has shown a lot more than Broberg to date.
dhsux wrote: ↑10 Nov 2025 08:38 am
I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.
When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)
Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
Broberg is a decent player. I certainly wouldn't call him a stud but that's an opinion.
But the real question is whether you are OK with him being the highest paid player on the team? I think that would be a tough sell in the room and he certainly is not even close to the most valuable player on the team. I get that the cap has increased a lot and it is relative to that, but these things do matter in the room, like it or not.
Like it or not, the cap has risen 20% since Thomas and Kyrou have signed their deals. I get not wanting anyone to eclipse what Thomas is making (8.125) but it is pure folly to ignore the upward cap and how it affects contracts. There are numerous contracts that have been signed for "stupid" money in the last 3-5 months, many of them defenseman. Are we to believe that everyone of those contracts caused an uproar in the locker room?
Depends on the players, but guys that view themselves as the best players on the team absolutely care about being paid accordingly and I don't blame them. If you know you are the most valuable guy at your job, would you like it if some guy that is maybe 5th or 6th on the totem poll was making more? Of course not. These guys are human. This is their job and sometimes it is hard for us to remember that. Some care more than others and react more strongly than others, same as in the "real" world, but it's only natural that it would be on their mind.
When guys like Thomas and Kyrou sign long term contracts they are either aware other players might come along and get paid more or they would be incredibly naive and financially illiterate. Also, there are motivating factors aside from pure salary, McDavid for instance, or perhaps a player with a family who has set roots, attractions to a particular city, area, or team, or even aversion to long plane flights.
Logically they should know that of course but we see time and time again teams avoid paying support players more than their top guys. What team in the league has a 2nd pair dman getting paid more than their 1C? It just doesn't happen.
Miami I agree with your premise but the circumstance of when the guys we are talking about signed (and will sign) are what's happening here and all as it relates to a rising cap.
I mean Thomas and JK have to pretty much love pay raises around them knowing it helps them when it comes back to their own new contract. They signed an extended deal knowing what that security meant and it's still there.
If I'm the Blues I'd give Bro what I would believe to me to be just above market value, or otherwise put right at what some other team would pay him. This is a player that the Blues can not just fritter away over a few bucks for multiple reasons, both appearance and substance. (not saying you are suggesting they fritter and do that)
So far, I'll put Holloway in that very same category of negotiations.
