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Re: Broberg

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theograce wrote: 08 Nov 2025 21:56 pm
smilinjoefission wrote: 08 Nov 2025 21:54 pm Whatever he's offered RFA it'll be under the $9.3xxx threshold so it'll be a 1st, 2nd, 3rd...if someone goes over it'll be 2 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and at $9.3m for 7or8 years, that's ALOT of $$$ invested. I like Broberg, I don't like him $9.3m for 7 or more years, not yet. He needs a legit all-star calibre season, and so far its not happening.
If he makes near Hutson I’ll laugh and cry
I can't see that happening, but I can, which is kinda sad because he's a good Dman, not $9mill good. Again, if the Blues didn't just (bleep) away $6.1m per over the next 3 seasons on Fowler this wouldn't be as big a problem.
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Re: Broberg

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I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
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Re: Broberg

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dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 08:38 am I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.

When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)

Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
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Re: Broberg

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Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 08:38 am I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.

When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)

Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
Broberg is a decent player. I certainly wouldn't call him a stud but that's an opinion.

But the real question is whether you are OK with him being the highest paid player on the team? I think that would be a tough sell in the room and he certainly is not even close to the most valuable player on the team. I get that the cap has increased a lot and it is relative to that, but these things do matter in the room, like it or not.
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Re: Broberg

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MiamiLaw wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:05 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 08:38 am I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.

When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)

Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
Broberg is a decent player. I certainly wouldn't call him a stud but that's an opinion.

But the real question is whether you are OK with him being the highest paid player on the team? I think that would be a tough sell in the room and he certainly is not even close to the most valuable player on the team. I get that the cap has increased a lot and it is relative to that, but these things do matter in the room, like it or not.
This is a pretty ignorant hockey forum as it relates to assessment
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Re: Broberg

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Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 08:38 am I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.

When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)

Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
I don't and won't deal with him directly...and thought I'd share my view with the board since Bro has been just one of his many Blues to throw shade on as he did here.
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Re: Broberg

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theograce wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:19 pm
MiamiLaw wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:05 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 08:38 am I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.

When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)

Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
Broberg is a decent player. I certainly wouldn't call him a stud but that's an opinion.

But the real question is whether you are OK with him being the highest paid player on the team? I think that would be a tough sell in the room and he certainly is not even close to the most valuable player on the team. I get that the cap has increased a lot and it is relative to that, but these things do matter in the room, like it or not.
This is a pretty ignorant hockey forum as it relates to assessment
Especially when you are doing the assessing.
:mrgreen:
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Re: Broberg

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dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:20 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 08:38 am I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.

When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)

Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
I don't and won't deal with him directly...and thought I'd share my view with the board since Bro has been just one of his many Blues to throw shade on as he did here.
Throw shade lol. Give him more than Hutson … and don’t look back!!!
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Re: Broberg

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The athletic projected 6.7 for Broberg but with a market value of 9.7 around the start of the season. The gist of the article is that Broberg is a top pair match up defenseman that moves the puck and defends well but pedestrian point totals will probably hold him back in contract negotiations.

I personally think he’s going to get way more than 6.7. Anything 8 million or under is probably good value for the Blues but going over that would be a gamble. Not to say that 9 million will be a bad contract, but that it could be.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/670699 ... ojections/
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Re: Broberg

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Broberg is worth every bit of $8 million, Blues better be ready to write the check. Hes at 56.5% dzone starts, most by a dman hes :29 sec behind CP for most EV TOI hes been very very good defensively at 24 yrs old unfortunately the Blues offensive attack is weak and hes not been able to contribute as many points as he should be but this could help the negotiations
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Re: Broberg

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Harry S Deals wrote: 10 Nov 2025 13:20 pm Broberg is worth every bit of $8 million, Blues better be ready to write the check. Hes at 56.5% dzone starts, most by a dman hes :29 sec behind CP for most EV TOI hes been very very good defensively at 24 yrs old unfortunately the Blues offensive attack is weak and hes not been able to contribute as many points as he should be but this could help the negotiations
Can you win with him. Is he a leader n the best ce that guys rally behind? This core isn’t even close to the big boys
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Re: Broberg

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MiamiLaw wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:05 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 08:38 am I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.

When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)

Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
Broberg is a decent player. I certainly wouldn't call him a stud but that's an opinion.

But the real question is whether you are OK with him being the highest paid player on the team? I think that would be a tough sell in the room and he certainly is not even close to the most valuable player on the team. I get that the cap has increased a lot and it is relative to that, but these things do matter in the room, like it or not.
Like it or not, the cap has risen 20% since Thomas and Kyrou have signed their deals. I get not wanting anyone to eclipse what Thomas is making (8.125) but it is pure folly to ignore the upward cap and how it affects contracts. There are numerous contracts that have been signed for "stupid" money in the last 3-5 months, many of them defenseman. Are we to believe that everyone of those contracts caused an uproar in the locker room?
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Re: Broberg

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Broberg gets paid--but he has to put up the numbers to get that kind of money.
If he's a 30-point guy--he's not going to get paid like a 6o point guy.
He is not getting 9 million based on his current numbers. IMO===He will get paid--To what extent is based on his #'s this year.
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Re: Broberg

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Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 14:08 pm
MiamiLaw wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:05 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 08:38 am I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.

When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)

Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
Broberg is a decent player. I certainly wouldn't call him a stud but that's an opinion.

But the real question is whether you are OK with him being the highest paid player on the team? I think that would be a tough sell in the room and he certainly is not even close to the most valuable player on the team. I get that the cap has increased a lot and it is relative to that, but these things do matter in the room, like it or not.
Like it or not, the cap has risen 20% since Thomas and Kyrou have signed their deals. I get not wanting anyone to eclipse what Thomas is making (8.125) but it is pure folly to ignore the upward cap and how it affects contracts. There are numerous contracts that have been signed for "stupid" money in the last 3-5 months, many of them defenseman. Are we to believe that everyone of those contracts caused an uproar in the locker room?
Depends on the players, but guys that view themselves as the best players on the team absolutely care about being paid accordingly and I don't blame them. If you know you are the most valuable guy at your job, would you like it if some guy that is maybe 5th or 6th on the totem poll was making more? Of course not. These guys are human. This is their job and sometimes it is hard for us to remember that. Some care more than others and react more strongly than others, same as in the "real" world, but it's only natural that it would be on their mind.
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Re: Broberg

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MiamiLaw wrote: 10 Nov 2025 14:12 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 14:08 pm
MiamiLaw wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:05 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 08:38 am I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.

When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)

Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
Broberg is a decent player. I certainly wouldn't call him a stud but that's an opinion.

But the real question is whether you are OK with him being the highest paid player on the team? I think that would be a tough sell in the room and he certainly is not even close to the most valuable player on the team. I get that the cap has increased a lot and it is relative to that, but these things do matter in the room, like it or not.
Like it or not, the cap has risen 20% since Thomas and Kyrou have signed their deals. I get not wanting anyone to eclipse what Thomas is making (8.125) but it is pure folly to ignore the upward cap and how it affects contracts. There are numerous contracts that have been signed for "stupid" money in the last 3-5 months, many of them defenseman. Are we to believe that everyone of those contracts caused an uproar in the locker room?
Depends on the players, but guys that view themselves as the best players on the team absolutely care about being paid accordingly and I don't blame them. If you know you are the most valuable guy at your job, would you like it if some guy that is maybe 5th or 6th on the totem poll was making more? Of course not. These guys are human. This is their job and sometimes it is hard for us to remember that. Some care more than others and react more strongly than others, same as in the "real" world, but it's only natural that it would be on their mind.
When guys like Thomas and Kyrou sign long term contracts they are either aware other players might come along and get paid more or they would be incredibly naive and financially illiterate. Also, there are motivating factors aside from pure salary, McDavid for instance, or perhaps a player with a family who has set roots, attractions to a particular city, area, or team, or even aversion to long plane flights.
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Re: Broberg

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DawgDad wrote: 10 Nov 2025 15:11 pm
MiamiLaw wrote: 10 Nov 2025 14:12 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 14:08 pm
MiamiLaw wrote: 10 Nov 2025 12:05 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 10 Nov 2025 11:40 am
dhsux wrote: 10 Nov 2025 08:38 am I have no concerns where Broberg is headed and I like it.
I'm saying this with all honesty....You are to smart to even bother posting in this thread.

When you are posting for a troll that posts 30+ times a day who is obviously screaming for attention...do you really think any astute hockey knowledge will actually be taken seriously from the clown (or princess as he is also known)

Broberg is a stud. 9+ million is the going rate for guys of his caliber, age, upside.
The market says he's worth it....what trolls post and say about it on an anonymous forum doesn't.
Broberg is a decent player. I certainly wouldn't call him a stud but that's an opinion.

But the real question is whether you are OK with him being the highest paid player on the team? I think that would be a tough sell in the room and he certainly is not even close to the most valuable player on the team. I get that the cap has increased a lot and it is relative to that, but these things do matter in the room, like it or not.
Like it or not, the cap has risen 20% since Thomas and Kyrou have signed their deals. I get not wanting anyone to eclipse what Thomas is making (8.125) but it is pure folly to ignore the upward cap and how it affects contracts. There are numerous contracts that have been signed for "stupid" money in the last 3-5 months, many of them defenseman. Are we to believe that everyone of those contracts caused an uproar in the locker room?
Depends on the players, but guys that view themselves as the best players on the team absolutely care about being paid accordingly and I don't blame them. If you know you are the most valuable guy at your job, would you like it if some guy that is maybe 5th or 6th on the totem poll was making more? Of course not. These guys are human. This is their job and sometimes it is hard for us to remember that. Some care more than others and react more strongly than others, same as in the "real" world, but it's only natural that it would be on their mind.
When guys like Thomas and Kyrou sign long term contracts they are either aware other players might come along and get paid more or they would be incredibly naive and financially illiterate. Also, there are motivating factors aside from pure salary, McDavid for instance, or perhaps a player with a family who has set roots, attractions to a particular city, area, or team, or even aversion to long plane flights.
Logically they should know that of course but we see time and time again teams avoid paying support players more than their top guys. What team in the league has a 2nd pair dman getting paid more than their 1C? It just doesn't happen.
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