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Re: Edman

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rockondlouie wrote: 02 Nov 2025 10:17 am
dugoutrex wrote: 02 Nov 2025 10:09 am love Tommy but I'm glad Pages came in to save the game!
Bingo

I doubt Tommy makes that catch.
Kike wouldn't have bounced off Tommy - if Tommy even gets close to that ball
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JuanAgosto wrote: 02 Nov 2025 09:49 am
12xu wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:49 am Edman is a gamer. He is a lot like Brendan Donovan, who the Cardinals will likely trade away this winter. I hope Bloom can get a better return than Mo got for Edman.
Is he? In 2024, he wasn't playing full games in his rehab assignment for a reported injury. As soon as he's traded to LA, he's healthy enough to finish the season strong. That seemed very fishy to me.
He was traded to LA on July 29, 2024. He did not play a game with the Dodgers until August 19.
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rockondlouie wrote: 02 Nov 2025 10:17 am
dugoutrex wrote: 02 Nov 2025 10:09 am love Tommy but I'm glad Pages came in to save the game!
Bingo

I doubt Tommy makes that catch.
So do I. He has an ankle injury which may require surgery during the winter. This fact led Roberts to replace him with Pages in that 9th inning. One of the best moves Roberts made during the series.
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Re: Edman

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RichieRichSTL wrote: 02 Nov 2025 02:03 am Say what you will but he has the champion mindset. Mo utterly wasted the asset we got in return for him. They weren't going to compete in 2025, so why risk getting nothing for Fedde? They could sign a scrub to eat innings,but Fedde still had value.
You could throw any bench player we have on that stacked team....and they are where they have been....competing for a championship. It has nothing to do with his mindset. it has to do he's surrounded by Ohtani, Freeman, Betts, Yamamoto, Glasnow, Sasaki, Hernandez, Snell, etc on and on.
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12xu wrote: 02 Nov 2025 07:49 am Edman is a gamer. He is a lot like Brendan Donovan, who the Cardinals will likely trade away this winter. I hope Bloom can get a better return than Mo got for Edman.
Edman hit .248 his last year with the Cardinals at age 28 . Donovan at age 28 hit .287
The past two years with LAD , Edman hit .237 and .225

Of course the value of Donovan will net Bloom a much better return . Not a good comparison to compare a Bloom return for Donovan to a Mo return for Edman .
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Adam2 wrote: 05 Nov 2025 17:20 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 02 Nov 2025 02:03 am Say what you will but he has the champion mindset. Mo utterly wasted the asset we got in return for him. They weren't going to compete in 2025, so why risk getting nothing for Fedde? They could sign a scrub to eat innings,but Fedde still had value.
You could throw any bench player we have on that stacked team....and they are where they have been....competing for a championship. It has nothing to do with his mindset. it has to do he's surrounded by Ohtani, Freeman, Betts, Yamamoto, Glasnow, Sasaki, Hernandez, Snell, etc on and on.
Yes and no. Obviously you have to have the talent, but
1) Hughly talented teams can and do choke because of team dynamics.
2) Talented teams get and need contributions from unsung heroes
3) Players like Edman are gamers. Everyone knows they arent the most talented, but they squeeze the most out of their talent and they help contribute to a positive/championship atmosphere with their hustle and attitude. In other words, they help set a tone. He does is also very flexible.

Does anyone think they craved and paid him as he was going to power them to a title. No, it was because they felt he compliments their team and vision well. Whitey didnt have the best players, but he had the players who were gamers and fit his vision well.

Untrue about any bench players. The wrong player can be a drag on a team, even a good team.

With a Rojas', Kleins and Edmans, pitching in, this team loses to the Blue Jays

I do understand by themselves they aren't enough and on a team without enough elite talent they arent the difference. But there is a reason the Dodgers sought him for few years.
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RichieRichSTL wrote: 02 Nov 2025 02:03 am Say what you will but he has the champion mindset. Mo utterly wasted the asset we got in return for him. They weren't going to compete in 2025, so why risk getting nothing for Fedde? They could sign a scrub to eat innings,but Fedde still had value.
Losing Edman is not a loss. He is not a difference maker.
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Edman, similar to Donovan even Noot, is a luxury piece best suited for October bc of their intangibles. These are the few guys Mo has developed who TLR would actually find a role for.
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Believe only Jay and Descalso have WS rings that are members of STL Cardinals organization today. That is, players who played in WS.

TE has two WS rings, so for whatever reason he has experienced success since leaving STL.
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RichieRichSTL wrote: 05 Nov 2025 18:01 pm
Adam2 wrote: 05 Nov 2025 17:20 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 02 Nov 2025 02:03 am Say what you will but he has the champion mindset. Mo utterly wasted the asset we got in return for him. They weren't going to compete in 2025, so why risk getting nothing for Fedde? They could sign a scrub to eat innings,but Fedde still had value.
You could throw any bench player we have on that stacked team....and they are where they have been....competing for a championship. It has nothing to do with his mindset. it has to do he's surrounded by Ohtani, Freeman, Betts, Yamamoto, Glasnow, Sasaki, Hernandez, Snell, etc on and on.
Yes and no. Obviously you have to have the talent, but
1) Hughly talented teams can and do choke because of team dynamics.
2) Talented teams get and need contributions from unsung heroes
3) Players like Edman are gamers. Everyone knows they arent the most talented, but they squeeze the most out of their talent and they help contribute to a positive/championship atmosphere with their hustle and attitude. In other words, they help set a tone. He does is also very flexible.

Does anyone think they craved and paid him as he was going to power them to a title. No, it was because they felt he compliments their team and vision well. Whitey didnt have the best players, but he had the players who were gamers and fit his vision well.

Untrue about any bench players. The wrong player can be a drag on a team, even a good team.

With a Rojas', Kleins and Edmans, pitching in, this team loses to the Blue Jays

I do understand by themselves they aren't enough and on a team without enough elite talent they arent the difference. But there is a reason the Dodgers sought him for few years.
Why are we even talking about Edman's mindset? That is completely irrelevant to the Dodgers. They are the most expensive team of all stars that has ever been assembled. Uncharted territory. Which is why the rules need to change.

I could play for the Dodgers in Edman's spot and they would have still made the World Series.
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CardsBest wrote: 05 Nov 2025 18:23 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 02 Nov 2025 02:03 am Say what you will but he has the champion mindset. Mo utterly wasted the asset we got in return for him. They weren't going to compete in 2025, so why risk getting nothing for Fedde? They could sign a scrub to eat innings,but Fedde still had value.
Losing Edman is not a loss. He is not a difference maker.
+1 not a loss at all for this team and never was
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He is a cog. He is not an indispensable cog.
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RamFan08NY wrote: 02 Nov 2025 06:54 am Edman is a great compliment piece on a stacked team.
spot on and exactly right,perfect utility guy for a great team with a huge payroll but not worth the mopney for a team like the cards
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rockondlouie wrote: 02 Nov 2025 08:53 am
RamFan08NY wrote: 02 Nov 2025 06:54 am Edman is a great compliment piece on a stacked team.
^^^THIS^^^

And this is his slash as a Dodger:
.229 .280 .392 .672

"MEH"
Or basically what Gorman did this year.

.205 .296 .370 .666

Let's extend for him $15 million per year!!!!!
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Re: Edman

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Poojols wrote: 05 Nov 2025 19:26 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 05 Nov 2025 18:01 pm
Adam2 wrote: 05 Nov 2025 17:20 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 02 Nov 2025 02:03 am Say what you will but he has the champion mindset. Mo utterly wasted the asset we got in return for him. They weren't going to compete in 2025, so why risk getting nothing for Fedde? They could sign a scrub to eat innings,but Fedde still had value.
You could throw any bench player we have on that stacked team....and they are where they have been....competing for a championship. It has nothing to do with his mindset. it has to do he's surrounded by Ohtani, Freeman, Betts, Yamamoto, Glasnow, Sasaki, Hernandez, Snell, etc on and on.
Yes and no. Obviously you have to have the talent, but
1) Hughly talented teams can and do choke because of team dynamics.
2) Talented teams get and need contributions from unsung heroes
3) Players like Edman are gamers. Everyone knows they arent the most talented, but they squeeze the most out of their talent and they help contribute to a positive/championship atmosphere with their hustle and attitude. In other words, they help set a tone. He does is also very flexible.

Does anyone think they craved and paid him as he was going to power them to a title. No, it was because they felt he compliments their team and vision well. Whitey didnt have the best players, but he had the players who were gamers and fit his vision well.

Untrue about any bench players. The wrong player can be a drag on a team, even a good team.

With a Rojas', Kleins and Edmans, pitching in, this team loses to the Blue Jays

I do understand by themselves they aren't enough and on a team without enough elite talent they arent the difference. But there is a reason the Dodgers sought him for few years.
Why are we even talking about Edman's mindset? That is completely irrelevant to the Dodgers. They are the most expensive team of all stars that has ever been assembled. Uncharted territory. Which is why the rules need to change.

I could play for the Dodgers in Edman's spot and they would have still made the World Series.
:lol: :lol: :lol: sure thing, pal! Playing in Edman's spot, you would likely have struck out nearly every AB, and made numerous errors on routine plays. Your contributions to the team would have kept them out of the playoffs.
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Re: Edman

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lordoffatness wrote: 06 Nov 2025 07:52 am
rockondlouie wrote: 02 Nov 2025 08:53 am
RamFan08NY wrote: 02 Nov 2025 06:54 am Edman is a great compliment piece on a stacked team.
^^^THIS^^^

And this is his slash as a Dodger:
.229 .280 .392 .672

"MEH"
Or basically what Gorman did this year.

.205 .296 .370 .666

Let's extend for him $15 million per year!!!!!
Stupid contract the Dodgers gave Edman but money is meaningless to them.
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