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Re: Where do you play him, what i would do, what they wont do

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Does this mean sunny is still on the pp? Asking for a friend
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DawgDad wrote: 29 Oct 2025 14:46 pm They've lost five in a row, mainly to middling teams. The top center and top scorer are out. The remainder of their best players are getting beat by the opponents. Shelter DD from WHAT, his new teammates maybe?

He's 20 with virtually no NHL experience, he's not going to be a difference maker for another season or two. Might want to give him some real experience starting now. I mean, the worst he can do is get schooled on the dot, cough up pucks at the blue line, leave a player open in the crease. At that, he'd fit right in.

See what he's got. See if he can keep up with Boeser and Pettersson. No one else can. But yeah, put him on a line with Buch or Schenn, don't be stupid about it.
I pretty much agree here, and mentioned in another thread that the vets need to figure it out before we bring any more prospects into the mess.

That said, he's been recalled, so I hope he's a top-9 center. If his 5on5 minutes are 4th line caliber, he better have special teams time. Perhaps he can help on the PP. I've dreamt of Snugg/Dvorsky on opposite sides. Been saying forever that they need to be setting up Snuggs. Maybe Dvo can find him, or just snipe some himself. Perhaps he will be a legit threat to draw in defenders and leave openings.

I don't think they're calling him up for a few games while Thomas is day-to-day. When Thomas returns, I'd go:

Holloway-Thomas-Kyrou
Schenn-Dvorsky-Snuggerud
Buch-Suter-Bjugstad/Texier
Joseph-Sunny-Toro/Walker

...or something
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Re: Where do you play him, what i would do, what they wont do

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He needs to dump that ugly #54
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I'd like to see him at 3rd line RW but don't really have any good setups with Jake and Thomas out.

Nothing Ive seen yet says franchise center, Maybe very good 60 point top 6 center.
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zamadoo wrote: 29 Oct 2025 16:22 pm
DawgDad wrote: 29 Oct 2025 14:46 pm They've lost five in a row, mainly to middling teams. The top center and top scorer are out. The remainder of their best players are getting beat by the opponents. Shelter DD from WHAT, his new teammates maybe?

He's 20 with virtually no NHL experience, he's not going to be a difference maker for another season or two. Might want to give him some real experience starting now. I mean, the worst he can do is get schooled on the dot, cough up pucks at the blue line, leave a player open in the crease. At that, he'd fit right in.

See what he's got. See if he can keep up with Boeser and Pettersson. No one else can. But yeah, put him on a line with Buch or Schenn, don't be stupid about it.
I pretty much agree here, and mentioned in another thread that the vets need to figure it out before we bring any more prospects into the mess.

That said, he's been recalled, so I hope he's a top-9 center. If his 5on5 minutes are 4th line caliber, he better have special teams time. Perhaps he can help on the PP. I've dreamt of Snugg/Dvorsky on opposite sides. Been saying forever that they need to be setting up Snuggs. Maybe Dvo can find him, or just snipe some himself. Perhaps he will be a legit threat to draw in defenders and leave openings.

I don't think they're calling him up for a few games while Thomas is day-to-day. When Thomas returns, I'd go:

Holloway-Thomas-Kyrou
Schenn-Dvorsky-Snuggerud
Buch-Suter-Bjugstad/Texier
Joseph-Sunny-Toro/Walker

...or something

Maybe not immediately we will see but that's certainly their plan soon for their center position. Monty said he's playing center
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Maybe (hopefully) he can develop into a Rod Brind'Amour lite.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 17:13 pm
zamadoo wrote: 29 Oct 2025 16:22 pm
DawgDad wrote: 29 Oct 2025 14:46 pm They've lost five in a row, mainly to middling teams. The top center and top scorer are out. The remainder of their best players are getting beat by the opponents. Shelter DD from WHAT, his new teammates maybe?

He's 20 with virtually no NHL experience, he's not going to be a difference maker for another season or two. Might want to give him some real experience starting now. I mean, the worst he can do is get schooled on the dot, cough up pucks at the blue line, leave a player open in the crease. At that, he'd fit right in.

See what he's got. See if he can keep up with Boeser and Pettersson. No one else can. But yeah, put him on a line with Buch or Schenn, don't be stupid about it.
I pretty much agree here, and mentioned in another thread that the vets need to figure it out before we bring any more prospects into the mess.

That said, he's been recalled, so I hope he's a top-9 center. If his 5on5 minutes are 4th line caliber, he better have special teams time. Perhaps he can help on the PP. I've dreamt of Snugg/Dvorsky on opposite sides. Been saying forever that they need to be setting up Snuggs. Maybe Dvo can find him, or just snipe some himself. Perhaps he will be a legit threat to draw in defenders and leave openings.

I don't think they're calling him up for a few games while Thomas is day-to-day. When Thomas returns, I'd go:

Holloway-Thomas-Kyrou
Schenn-Dvorsky-Snuggerud
Buch-Suter-Bjugstad/Texier
Joseph-Sunny-Toro/Walker

...or something

Maybe not immediately we will see but that's certainly their plan soon for their center position. Monty said he's playing center
I wholeheartedly agree with playing him at center. He's a center!

I do not view Dvorsky as a "franchise" center. He's a #10 draft pick from a draft top-heavy with centers, some with the "franchise" label. I hold expectations he will be a good reliable top-6 center when he gains the requisite experience. Right now, though, he's a center prospect with center instincts and experience in the developmental levels, and world-class high first-round talent. I see him as an ROR style center, not a Thomas, won't win races but he could ultimately be hard to play against. He leans more to leading transition vs leading rushes. He can stick handle in traffic, tape some tight passes, and he can shoot the puck. Let's see what kind of man he is at this point.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:13 pm Schenn Dvorsky Kyrou
Buch Suter Snuggerud
Holloway Bjugstad Jospeh
Walker Sunny Torop


They drafted him to be a franchise center, hes shown it at every level then play him as the center (assumes no Thomas). Schenn is ineffective at center at this point no question but he can add veteran two play toughness for DDs wing.
Suter is fine as a 2c not ideal but Suter is good in his own end as well and Buch as well know would rather pass then shoot.
Not crazy about NB as a 3c but DD is not a bottom six center. Holloway needs to find his game thru checking, he isnt a top 6 winger right now

Thoughts?
If this is truly the lines that Monty plans to roll out, then he is morphing into Drew Bannister. Trying so hard to prevent goals, that they don't score goals. They need to put some offense together with the guys that can play offense and let the slugs try to slow down the other team's top lines. To me, the glaring hole in this lineup remains to be Faksa and the way the 4th line could roll against anyone. They need to give Dvo some offensive weapons, but ones that have some ability to help a little bit defensively.

Holloway - Schenn - Kyrou (let these guys run and gun)
Suter - Dvorsky - Snuggerud (give him a shooter in Snuggs to setup, and a high IQ player like Suter)
Buch - Bjug - Joseph (worst line out there but they should be able to matchup, but will never score)
Walker - Sunny - Torp (try to recreate WTF but with Sunny)
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DawgDad wrote: 29 Oct 2025 17:33 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 17:13 pm
zamadoo wrote: 29 Oct 2025 16:22 pm
DawgDad wrote: 29 Oct 2025 14:46 pm They've lost five in a row, mainly to middling teams. The top center and top scorer are out. The remainder of their best players are getting beat by the opponents. Shelter DD from WHAT, his new teammates maybe?

He's 20 with virtually no NHL experience, he's not going to be a difference maker for another season or two. Might want to give him some real experience starting now. I mean, the worst he can do is get schooled on the dot, cough up pucks at the blue line, leave a player open in the crease. At that, he'd fit right in.

See what he's got. See if he can keep up with Boeser and Pettersson. No one else can. But yeah, put him on a line with Buch or Schenn, don't be stupid about it.
I pretty much agree here, and mentioned in another thread that the vets need to figure it out before we bring any more prospects into the mess.

That said, he's been recalled, so I hope he's a top-9 center. If his 5on5 minutes are 4th line caliber, he better have special teams time. Perhaps he can help on the PP. I've dreamt of Snugg/Dvorsky on opposite sides. Been saying forever that they need to be setting up Snuggs. Maybe Dvo can find him, or just snipe some himself. Perhaps he will be a legit threat to draw in defenders and leave openings.

I don't think they're calling him up for a few games while Thomas is day-to-day. When Thomas returns, I'd go:

Holloway-Thomas-Kyrou
Schenn-Dvorsky-Snuggerud
Buch-Suter-Bjugstad/Texier
Joseph-Sunny-Toro/Walker

...or something

Maybe not immediately we will see but that's certainly their plan soon for their center position. Monty said he's playing center
I wholeheartedly agree with playing him at center. He's a center!

I do not view Dvorsky as a "franchise" center. He's a #10 draft pick from a draft top-heavy with centers, some with the "franchise" label. I hold expectations he will be a good reliable top-6 center when he gains the requisite experience. Right now, though, he's a center prospect with center instincts and experience in the developmental levels, and world-class high first-round talent. I see him as an ROR style center, not a Thomas, won't win races but he could ultimately be hard to play against. He leans more to leading transition vs leading rushes. He can stick handle in traffic, tape some tight passes, and he can shoot the puck. Let's see what kind of man he is at this point.
I could certainly be wrong but i feel like Dvorsky's ceiling is higher than Thomas. Dvorsky is as good of a passer as Thomas but DD has a very high end shot which Thomas doesn't possess. Thomas was PPG in the OHL 66 pts in 66 GP his best season, DD tore up the OHL 88 pts in 52 GP. DD also did very well as a 19 year old in the AHL yea DD is a bit of an enigmatic player he's a big kid that doesnt skate as well as Thomas but lets see where DD is at 24 or 25 years old.
With a regular shift can DD score more than 10 goals this season for the Blues, this is what Thomas did a 20, its gonna to be fascinating to see how Dvorsky pans out
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Holloway DD Kryou
Buch Suter Snugg
Joseph, Schenn, Torpo
Walk, Sunny, Bjustad
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Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 29 Oct 2025 17:19 pm Maybe (hopefully) he can develop into a Rod Brind'Amour lite.
So, Murray Baron?

Sorry. Still upset
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Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:19 pm
Old_Goat wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:15 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:13 pm Schenn Dvorsky Kyrou
Buch Suter Snuggerud
Holloway Bjugstad Jospeh
Walker Sunny Torop


They drafted him to be a franchise center, hes shown it at every level then play him as the center (assumes no Thomas). Schenn is ineffective at center at this point no question but he can add veteran two play toughness for DDs wing.
Suter is fine as a 2c not ideal but Suter is good in his own end as well and Buch as well know would rather pass then shoot.
Not crazy about NB as a 3c but DD is not a bottom six center. Holloway needs to find his game thru checking, he isnt a top 6 winger right now

Thoughts?
Maybe flip Holloway and Buchnevich.
Holloway is so bad right now i would still go Buch but Holloway is welcome to prove me wrong tomorrow night
While Holloway's offense isn't that great right now, his defense has been good from what little I've focused on that part of his game.
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Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 29 Oct 2025 16:46 pm He needs to dump that ugly #54
I agree...why not 15?! That's what he wears in Springfield...unless he is holding out for 9 (=5+4)?
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Old_Goat wrote: 30 Oct 2025 11:40 am
Mr.Snuggleupagus wrote: 29 Oct 2025 16:46 pm He needs to dump that ugly #54
I agree...why not 15?! That's what he wears in Springfield...unless he is holding out for 9 (=5+4)?
That's the number he should have, I've seen him wear #15 other times too.

Don't know why he wants to keep that dumb camp number.
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Zizzle1297 wrote: 30 Oct 2025 08:00 am Holloway DD Kryou
Buch Suter Snugg
Joseph, Schenn, Torpo
Walk, Sunny, Bjustad
I agree with the first line eventually. But i dont think its a smart idea until Holloway gets his game figured out. Its not going to do DD any good have holloway spaz out all over the ice. He needs linemates that will create space for him.
Also when i say “need” i dont mean it as a necessity, but more as a what would be best for his mental game. Thats not even factoring in minutes that will already be sheltered.
This is not the way army wanted to make this move.
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So what happens when Thomas comes back, Schenn has to go to LW right? Stop this madness and then who sits? Torop? When Neighbours comes back it will really be interesting
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