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Where do you play him, what i would do, what they wont do

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Schenn Dvorsky Kyrou
Buch Suter Snuggerud
Holloway Bjugstad Jospeh
Walker Sunny Torop


They drafted him to be a franchise center, hes shown it at every level then play him as the center (assumes no Thomas). Schenn is ineffective at center at this point no question but he can add veteran two play toughness for DDs wing.
Suter is fine as a 2c not ideal but Suter is good in his own end as well and Buch as well know would rather pass then shoot.
Not crazy about NB as a 3c but DD is not a bottom six center. Holloway needs to find his game thru checking, he isnt a top 6 winger right now

Thoughts?
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Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:13 pm Schenn Dvorsky Kyrou
Buch Suter Snuggerud
Holloway Bjugstad Jospeh
Walker Sunny Torop


They drafted him to be a franchise center, hes shown it at every level then play him as the center (assumes no Thomas). Schenn is ineffective at center at this point no question but he can add veteran two play toughness for DDs wing.
Suter is fine as a 2c not ideal but Suter is good in his own end as well and Buch as well know would rather pass then shoot.
Not crazy about NB as a 3c but DD is not a bottom six center. Holloway needs to find his game thru checking, he isnt a top 6 winger right now

Thoughts?
Maybe flip Holloway and Buchnevich.
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Old_Goat wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:15 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:13 pm Schenn Dvorsky Kyrou
Buch Suter Snuggerud
Holloway Bjugstad Jospeh
Walker Sunny Torop


They drafted him to be a franchise center, hes shown it at every level then play him as the center (assumes no Thomas). Schenn is ineffective at center at this point no question but he can add veteran two play toughness for DDs wing.
Suter is fine as a 2c not ideal but Suter is good in his own end as well and Buch as well know would rather pass then shoot.
Not crazy about NB as a 3c but DD is not a bottom six center. Holloway needs to find his game thru checking, he isnt a top 6 winger right now

Thoughts?
Maybe flip Holloway and Buchnevich.
Holloway is so bad right now i would still go Buch but Holloway is welcome to prove me wrong tomorrow night
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This idea is a lack of poise. #1 center, sink or swim now?

Don't make a bad situation worse by making clearly flawed decisions
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No wonder Kyrou wants out lol

#1 C lol
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seattleblue wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:20 pm This idea is a lack of poise. #1 center, sink or swim now?

Don't make a bad situation worse by making clearly flawed decisions
Agreed.

Stick Dvo at 3C, get him some PP time but otherwise sheltered 5 on 5 minutes.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:24 pm
seattleblue wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:20 pm This idea is a lack of poise. #1 center, sink or swim now?

Don't make a bad situation worse by making clearly flawed decisions
Agreed.

Stick Dvo at 3C, get him some PP time but otherwise sheltered 5 on 5 minutes.
I hate the idea of "sheltered" minutes he is instantly the Blues most skilled center with Thomas out. Dvorsky is a legit young prospect give him a chance to show it. Sticking him with two offensive slugs is a waste. If hes overmatched then sure modify the lines a bit
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I actually like the idea of pairing DD and Schenn. Keep Schenn out of the faceoff circle, they can flip on the fly in certain matchups.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:13 pm Schenn Dvorsky Kyrou
Buch Suter Snuggerud
Holloway Bjugstad Jospeh
Walker Sunny Torop

Thoughts?
My thought is, I have never heard of "Jospeh"....who is this player? Is he new?
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DawgDad wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:34 pm I actually like the idea of pairing DD and Schenn. Keep Schenn out of the faceoff circle, they can flip on the fly in certain matchups.
I see no point in playing your future franchise center at 20 yrs old with Joseph and Bjugstad for instance. If he looks overmatched then Monty will place him down the line up.
This team is either going to rebound and find their game in which case they can bring Dvorsky and Mailloux along for the ride OR this team is just a bad roster and then why not play your kids and get them NHL experience and practices to speed up their development. This is slower process with "sheltered" minutes.
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DawgDad wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:34 pm I actually like the idea of pairing DD and Schenn. Keep Schenn out of the faceoff circle, they can flip on the fly in certain matchups.
Schenn is perfectly respectable at the faceoff dot.
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bluetunehead wrote: 29 Oct 2025 13:30 pm
DawgDad wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:34 pm I actually like the idea of pairing DD and Schenn. Keep Schenn out of the faceoff circle, they can flip on the fly in certain matchups.
Schenn is perfectly respectable at the faceoff dot.
I know he's over 50% but he got used last night, totally outclassed. It was a big factor in the loss.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:31 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:24 pm
seattleblue wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:20 pm This idea is a lack of poise. #1 center, sink or swim now?

Don't make a bad situation worse by making clearly flawed decisions
Agreed.

Stick Dvo at 3C, get him some PP time but otherwise sheltered 5 on 5 minutes.
I hate the idea of "sheltered" minutes he is instantly the Blues most skilled center with Thomas out. Dvorsky is a legit young prospect give him a chance to show it. Sticking him with two offensive slugs is a waste. If hes overmatched then sure modify the lines a bit
Since when does sheltering a player mean sticking him with 2 offensive “slugs”? It just means trying to structure the lines to where his line isn’t facing the opposition’s best.

Also, if you watch him in Springfield, you’d see he’s still very far from a finished product. He’s just so-so at 5 on 5 at the AHL level. Where he excels is as a hammer on the PP.

Looking at what he’s shown to date and what Monty said today, I expect him to see relatively sheltered 5 on 5 time but then let him unleash the hammer on the PP to see if he can help there.

He’s almost certainly going to be a top player for us in time but as of today, he’s still a flawed young player…but one with a lot of talent and an absolute hammer of a one-timer.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 29 Oct 2025 14:09 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:31 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:24 pm
seattleblue wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:20 pm This idea is a lack of poise. #1 center, sink or swim now?

Don't make a bad situation worse by making clearly flawed decisions
Agreed.

Stick Dvo at 3C, get him some PP time but otherwise sheltered 5 on 5 minutes.
I hate the idea of "sheltered" minutes he is instantly the Blues most skilled center with Thomas out. Dvorsky is a legit young prospect give him a chance to show it. Sticking him with two offensive slugs is a waste. If hes overmatched then sure modify the lines a bit
Since when does sheltering a player mean sticking him with 2 offensive “slugs”? It just means trying to structure the lines to where his line isn’t facing the opposition’s best.

Also, if you watch him in Springfield, you’d see he’s still very far from a finished product. He’s just so-so at 5 on 5 at the AHL level. Where he excels is as a hammer on the PP.

Looking at what he’s shown to date and what Monty said today, I expect him to see relatively sheltered 5 on 5 time but then let him unleash the hammer on the PP to see if he can help there.

He’s almost certainly going to be a top player for us in time but as of today, he’s still a flawed young player…but one with a lot of talent and an absolute hammer of a one-timer.
They've lost five in a row, mainly to middling teams. The top center and top scorer are out. The remainder of their best players are getting beat by the opponents. Shelter DD from WHAT, his new teammates maybe?

He's 20 with virtually no NHL experience, he's not going to be a difference maker for another season or two. Might want to give him some real experience starting now. I mean, the worst he can do is get schooled on the dot, cough up pucks at the blue line, leave a player open in the crease. At that, he'd fit right in.

See what he's got. See if he can keep up with Boeser and Pettersson. No one else can. But yeah, put him on a line with Buch or Schenn, don't be stupid about it.
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DawgDad wrote: 29 Oct 2025 14:46 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 29 Oct 2025 14:09 pm
Harry S Deals wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:31 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:24 pm
seattleblue wrote: 29 Oct 2025 12:20 pm This idea is a lack of poise. #1 center, sink or swim now?

Don't make a bad situation worse by making clearly flawed decisions
Agreed.

Stick Dvo at 3C, get him some PP time but otherwise sheltered 5 on 5 minutes.
I hate the idea of "sheltered" minutes he is instantly the Blues most skilled center with Thomas out. Dvorsky is a legit young prospect give him a chance to show it. Sticking him with two offensive slugs is a waste. If hes overmatched then sure modify the lines a bit
Since when does sheltering a player mean sticking him with 2 offensive “slugs”? It just means trying to structure the lines to where his line isn’t facing the opposition’s best.

Also, if you watch him in Springfield, you’d see he’s still very far from a finished product. He’s just so-so at 5 on 5 at the AHL level. Where he excels is as a hammer on the PP.

Looking at what he’s shown to date and what Monty said today, I expect him to see relatively sheltered 5 on 5 time but then let him unleash the hammer on the PP to see if he can help there.

He’s almost certainly going to be a top player for us in time but as of today, he’s still a flawed young player…but one with a lot of talent and an absolute hammer of a one-timer.
They've lost five in a row, mainly to middling teams. The top center and top scorer are out. The remainder of their best players are getting beat by the opponents. Shelter DD from WHAT, his new teammates maybe?

He's 20 with virtually no NHL experience, he's not going to be a difference maker for another season or two. Might want to give him some real experience starting now. I mean, the worst he can do is get schooled on the dot, cough up pucks at the blue line, leave a player open in the crease. At that, he'd fit right in.

See what he's got. See if he can keep up with Boeser and Pettersson. No one else can. But yeah, put him on a line with Buch or Schenn, don't be stupid about it.
I fully agree i have seen 6-10 Springfield games online the last two seasons ive questioned his foot speed but once hes in either zone, hes ready. The Blues are getting smoked down the middle and in the D zone over and over. Schenn isnt an answer, Suter is ok i dont have a problem with him at all but I advocate throwing DD in to see what he can do. Let him go head to head with Pettersson and see where DD is. Odds are that he will impress more than he will disappoint which is exactly what the franchise needs to see.
But Im sure Monty and co. will be uber conservative, shelter minutes, skip shifts, no PK.
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Schenn Dvorsky Kyrou
Buch Suter Snuggerud
Hollway Bjustadt Joseph
Torop Sun Walk

Seems like it will be this. (or very similar)
Monty quotes in Lou Korac's article today.
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