You must have missed the post where he derides the organization for wanting to make money. Having witnessed what happens when owners LOSE money . . . Well, either he does not really care about the Blues or someone else is paying his bills.LewisL wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 13:19 pmOk loser. Pay your good money for tickets to root on losing for high draft picks.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:58 pmWe certainly seem to be doing plenty of losing doing it Army's way...and your way.LewisL wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:55 pmOh I understand all right. I just don't believe in tanking, which basically requires losing. I don't tolerate losers like you. Our 2019 Cup didn't require a tanking.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:20 pmYou STILL do not understand...perhaps your IQ is too low to grasp what I am saying.LewisL wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:04 pmYet you're still beating the dead horse, you're still complaining when we're now in the losing process. Enjoy the process of wasting years to get your precious high draft picks. Look at MLB, ask the Baltimore Orioles how that worked out after getting getting blue chips. You guys who embrace tanking and losing are just that, losers.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:57 amYou misunderstand completely....
None of us WANT tanking, but sometimes it is the best/necessary option to build a team with a solid future foundation. Army has tried to sell us
on continuing to compete while "retooling"...in the end that just prolongs the agony.
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Can we vote "both"?DawgDad wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 14:21 pmYou must have missed the post where he derides the organization for wanting to make money. Having witnessed what happens when owners LOSE money . . . Well, either he does not really care about the Blues or someone else is paying his bills.LewisL wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 13:19 pmOk loser. Pay your good money for tickets to root on losing for high draft picks.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:58 pmWe certainly seem to be doing plenty of losing doing it Army's way...and your way.LewisL wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:55 pmOh I understand all right. I just don't believe in tanking, which basically requires losing. I don't tolerate losers like you. Our 2019 Cup didn't require a tanking.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:20 pmYou STILL do not understand...perhaps your IQ is too low to grasp what I am saying.LewisL wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:04 pmYet you're still beating the dead horse, you're still complaining when we're now in the losing process. Enjoy the process of wasting years to get your precious high draft picks. Look at MLB, ask the Baltimore Orioles how that worked out after getting getting blue chips. You guys who embrace tanking and losing are just that, losers.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:57 amYou misunderstand completely....
None of us WANT tanking, but sometimes it is the best/necessary option to build a team with a solid future foundation. Army has tried to sell us
on continuing to compete while "retooling"...in the end that just prolongs the agony.
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I've never said that the Blues should tank on purpose. Not once. That is not possible. I've said that the Blues should rely on prospects, sink or swim. When they do that VERSUS hiring Fowler, Faska, and Suter, they will likely lose at a higher rate.Bubble4427 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 13:02 pmQuit moving the goalposts...a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:18 pmI'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.somni wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:11 pmWell, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:14 amI wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.somni wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:07 amFive years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 07:24 amMeanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 06:58 am Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.
Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!
The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.
The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.
Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.
Jesus
We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.
I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.
I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.
Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.
Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.
Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.
I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.
You want the Blues to tank. End of story.
Most team hire seasoned vets to FINISH OFF A TEAM for a Cup run. In contrast, the Blues hire vets to win a few more games every year, to stay competitive, to create the appearance of being a legitimate contending team.
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Re: The Teams that did it the right way now passing the Blues
Fowler, who played great last year in helping to destroy the Blues draft position, has incidentally reverted to horrible play right now...a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 14:43 pmI've never said that the Blues should tank on purpose. Not once. That is not possible. I've said that the Blues should rely on prospects, sink or swim. When they do that VERSUS hiring Fowler, Faska, and Suter, they will likely lose at a higher rate.Bubble4427 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 13:02 pmQuit moving the goalposts...a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:18 pmI'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.somni wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:11 pmWell, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:14 amI wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.somni wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:07 amFive years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 07:24 amMeanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 06:58 am Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.
Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!
The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.
The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.
Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.
Jesus
We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.
I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.
I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.
Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.
Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.
Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.
I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.
You want the Blues to tank. End of story.
Most team hire seasoned vets to FINISH OFF A TEAM for a Cup run. In contrast, the Blues hire vets to win a few more games every year, to stay competitive, to create the appearance of being a legitimate contending team.
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Re: The Teams that did it the right way now passing the Blues
If you truly feel that way then quit ragging on Mailoux. The Blues are playing him (as you insist) and allowing him to make the mistakes that all young defenseman make.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 14:43 pmI've never said that the Blues should tank on purpose. Not once. That is not possible. I've said that the Blues should rely on prospects, sink or swim. When they do that VERSUS hiring Fowler, Faska, and Suter, they will likely lose at a higher rate.Bubble4427 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 13:02 pmQuit moving the goalposts...a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:18 pmI'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.somni wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:11 pmWell, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:14 amI wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.somni wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:07 amFive years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 07:24 amMeanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 06:58 am Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.
Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!
The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.
The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.
Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.
Jesus
We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.
I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.
I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.
Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.
Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.
Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.
I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.
You want the Blues to tank. End of story.
Most team hire seasoned vets to FINISH OFF A TEAM for a Cup run. In contrast, the Blues hire vets to win a few more games every year, to stay competitive, to create the appearance of being a legitimate contending team.
When it comes to your outlandish Army complaints….You come off as quite the hypocrite.
If you are trying to troll, you’re not doing a very good job of it.
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Do you tank trolls even bother to basic fact check your assertions before you spam? Just one example-Utah. Doing it the right way- got the team moved (and they still have not made the playoffs ). Are they relying on youth and draft eschewing veterans?? Hmm look at the age of their top 6 dmen D and their contracts. Ian Cole, Valimaki, Sergachaev, Durzi, John Marino-- not really a youth or dradt movement there. They traded kesselring and doan for peterka -- sound familiar ? Such clownage. You are the hockey board equivalent of the poor guy stuck in a myanmar boarding house calling grandma to tell her she needs to send you a walmart card or irs is going to arrest her.
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Re: The Teams that did it the right way now passing the Blues
They are anointing teams that can't make the playoffs at a consistent level and it's not even christmas. the cope on this board is extra hard this year. probably do to a couple of the Bots saying they would leave when xyz happens and when it happened, they decided to stay so they have to go extra ham. Gross behaviorbluetunehead wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 10:30 am The last time any of these teams finished in the Top 3 of their division:
Montreal - 2017
Detroit - 2016
Ottawa - 2017
Utah - 2012
Blues - 2022
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Re: The Teams that did it the right way now passing the Blues
I'm very happy that the Blues are playing Mailloux, albeit sparingly.Bubble4427 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 17:19 pmIf you truly feel that way then quit ragging on Mailoux. The Blues are playing him (as you insist) and allowing him to make the mistakes that all young defenseman make.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 14:43 pmI've never said that the Blues should tank on purpose. Not once. That is not possible. I've said that the Blues should rely on prospects, sink or swim. When they do that VERSUS hiring Fowler, Faska, and Suter, they will likely lose at a higher rate.Bubble4427 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 13:02 pmQuit moving the goalposts...a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:18 pmI'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.somni wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:11 pmWell, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:14 amI wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.somni wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:07 amFive years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 07:24 amMeanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 06:58 am Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.
Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!
The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.
The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.
Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.
Jesus
We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.
I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.
I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.
Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.
Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.
Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.
I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.
You want the Blues to tank. End of story.
Most team hire seasoned vets to FINISH OFF A TEAM for a Cup run. In contrast, the Blues hire vets to win a few more games every year, to stay competitive, to create the appearance of being a legitimate contending team.
When it comes to your outlandish Army complaints….You come off as quite the hypocrite.
If you are trying to troll, you’re not doing a very good job of it.
I"ll be even happier if they bring in Dvorsky, Stenberg and Lindstein.
Re: The Teams that did it the right way now passing the Blues
Exactly. Why are Mailloux and Snuggerud allowed make mistakes here but not the other prospects? Instead we have minor leaguers blocking roster spots.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑29 Oct 2025 06:36 amI'm very happy that the Blues are playing Mailloux, albeit sparingly.Bubble4427 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 17:19 pmIf you truly feel that way then quit ragging on Mailoux. The Blues are playing him (as you insist) and allowing him to make the mistakes that all young defenseman make.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 14:43 pmI've never said that the Blues should tank on purpose. Not once. That is not possible. I've said that the Blues should rely on prospects, sink or swim. When they do that VERSUS hiring Fowler, Faska, and Suter, they will likely lose at a higher rate.Bubble4427 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 13:02 pmQuit moving the goalposts...a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:18 pmI'm not calling for a mafia-style tank where games are thrown on purpose.somni wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 12:11 pmWell, '23 and '24 is not 5 years ago.a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:14 amI wanted them to tank in 2023 and 2024 after jettisoning ROR and the rest. Instead, Army believed that he was smarter than 30 other GMs and could find everything we need later in the draft.somni wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 11:07 amFive years ago, a year after winning the Stanley Cup, you wanted them to tank?a smell of green grass wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 07:24 amMeanwhile, in St Louis, the 1C is out and the offense improves.son_of_foolsgold wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 06:58 am Ottawa, Montreal, Detroit, Utah, etc...all better teams now. Meanwhile the Blues continue to sink.
Army is a FAILURE. He must resign!!
The "staying competitive while re-whatevering" killed the Blues for at least 5 years.
The long-term contracts to Kyrou, Buch and Thomas will block progress even if a star rookie was in the pipeline.
Army should resign. He failed at evaluating our personnel accurately.
Jesus
We got nothing of value out of the 23/24 drafts. Nothing that will provide a competitive edge.
I've said this before and you didn't answer. And I imagine you won't answer now.
I would love for you to go the Blues locker room and tell Jake Neighbours not to try so hard in his first full year, especially down the stretch when it really started to come together for him, because you want a top 5 pick.
Or tell Robert Thomas not to work on his faceoffs and board play to get EVEN better because you heard of this player (who you probably can't even pronounce) is the up and coming draft.
Or walk up to Buchnevich and ask him to not score 27 goal and 36 assists, in a contract year, because YOU want to draft some guy named Parekh.
Maybe you should've told Bannister not to coach so hard even though it's his first go around as a head coach in the NHL.
I'm calling for a sink-or-swim tank, where Dvorsky is out there RIGHT NOW, and Pius Suter was never acquired.
You want the Blues to tank. End of story.
Most team hire seasoned vets to FINISH OFF A TEAM for a Cup run. In contrast, the Blues hire vets to win a few more games every year, to stay competitive, to create the appearance of being a legitimate contending team.
When it comes to your outlandish Army complaints….You come off as quite the hypocrite.
If you are trying to troll, you’re not doing a very good job of it.
I"ll be even happier if they bring in Dvorsky, Stenberg and Lindstein.