If Arenado is traded Saggese becomes even more relevant

[82birds]

Saggese may then get a legitimate opportunity to start at 3B or 2B. The emergence of Wetherholt to go along with the talented Saggese on the infield has a lot of potential to help the Cardinals' offense in '26.

You’ve already done this thread topic. Numerous times.

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that doesn't stop Shady

[Ozziesfan41]

Saggese may then get a legitimate opportunity to start at 3B or 2B. The emergence of Wetherholt to go along with the talented Saggese on the infield has a lot of potential to help the Cardinals' offense in '26.

You’ve already done this thread topic. Numerous times.

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that doesn't stop Shady

My prediction there will several more

[ecleme22]

Saggese may then get a legitimate opportunity to start at 3B or 2B. The emergence of Wetherholt to go along with the talented Saggese on the infield has a lot of potential to help the Cardinals' offense in '26.

You’ve already done this thread topic. Numerous times.

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that doesn't stop Shady

My prediction there will several more

It will be Saggese all off season…

Cut to Opening day, Saggese starts, goes 0-5…

Shady: “it looks like Saggese isn’t a long term solution.”

[Ozziesfan41]

Saggese may then get a legitimate opportunity to start at 3B or 2B. The emergence of Wetherholt to go along with the talented Saggese on the infield has a lot of potential to help the Cardinals' offense in '26.

You’ve already done this thread topic. Numerous times.

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that doesn't stop Shady

My prediction there will several more

It will be Saggese all off season…

Cut to Opening day, Saggese starts, goes 0-5…

Shady: “it looks like Saggese isn’t a long term solution.”

lol

[Shady]

No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.

JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.

Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?

If he's here, then he's a utility player (replacing B. Donovan if he's dealt).

He also could be a throw in on any bigger deal C. Bloom could make.

Either way, he's NOT a starter at any position.

JMO

They are serious about wanting to tank if they have Gorman playing at third everyday. Bad defense can’t hit low on base low ops just an awful player. He’s worse than a JAG he’s a just another awful player

That's what they're going to use 2026 for, to see if players like N. Gorman are going to pan out or is it time to cut the cord and move on.

Wasn't 2025 supposed to be for that?

[rockondlouie]

No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.

JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.

Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?

If he's here, then he's a utility player (replacing B. Donovan if he's dealt).

He also could be a throw in on any bigger deal C. Bloom could make.

Either way, he's NOT a starter at any position.

JMO

They are serious about wanting to tank if they have Gorman playing at third everyday. Bad defense can’t hit low on base low ops just an awful player. He’s worse than a JAG he’s a just another awful player

That's what they're going to use 2026 for, to see if players like N. Gorman are going to pan out or is it time to cut the cord and move on.

Wasn't 2025 supposed to be for that?

New regime coming in and we know BDWJr isn't going to spend any real money in 2026.

Gorman isn't my choice (Saggesse absolutely isn't, J.A.G. w/no power) but if NADO and Donovan are traded (likely), then Gorman is going to be the first player to be given a shot at 3rd base given his power upside.

[RamFan08NY]

No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.

JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.

Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?


JMO

If Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.

You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?

Gorman had 100 more ABs than Saggese. Both had same number of doubles. Gorman had 12 more HRs. Saggese hit over 50 points higher in BA. Give me the "JAG" who puts the ball in play and can hit doubles.

To put it in perspective. Donovan hit a double in 6% of his ABs. Saggese hit a double in 5% of his ABs. You are under estimating Saggese's potential if played every day.

[Shady]

No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.

JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.

Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?


JMO

If Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.

You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?

Saggese is underrated, at this time by some, because he hasn't delivered much power as yet. It will come.

[Ozziesfan41]

No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.

JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.

Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?

If he's here, then he's a utility player (replacing B. Donovan if he's dealt).

He also could be a throw in on any bigger deal C. Bloom could make.

Either way, he's NOT a starter at any position.

JMO

They are serious about wanting to tank if they have Gorman playing at third everyday. Bad defense can’t hit low on base low ops just an awful player. He’s worse than a JAG he’s a just another awful player

That's what they're going to use 2026 for, to see if players like N. Gorman are going to pan out or is it time to cut the cord and move on.

Wasn't 2025 supposed to be for that?

New regime coming in and we know BDWJr isn't going to spend any real money in 2026.

Gorman isn't my choice (Saggesse absolutely isn't, J.A.G. w/no power) but if NADO and Donovan are traded (likely), then Gorman is going to be the first player to be given a shot at 3rd base given his power upside.

Yea saggase may be JAG but Gorman is just another awful failed player. If they go with him not only are they not caring if they win but intentionally trying to lose and would be a good indicator bloom might be an idiot

[mattmitchl44]

Plan to platoon Gorman and Saggese at 3B.

If one starts off particularly well and the other poorly, let the one playing well start to eat into the playing time of the other.

[NYCardsFan]

No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.

JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.

Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?


JMO

If Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.

You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?

Saggese is underrated, at this time, by some because he hasn't delivered much power. It will come.

Or, maybe it's because he was an average-to-below-average fielder who was 19% worse than league average offensively (even with a relatively fortuitous .359 BABIP).

However, he *IS* yet another in the long line of disposable "fine young prospects" used by you as pretexts/vehicles for seeking attention.

[rockondlouie]

No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.

JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.

Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?

If he's here, then he's a utility player (replacing B. Donovan if he's dealt).

He also could be a throw in on any bigger deal C. Bloom could make.

Either way, he's NOT a starter at any position.

JMO

They are serious about wanting to tank if they have Gorman playing at third everyday. Bad defense can’t hit low on base low ops just an awful player. He’s worse than a JAG he’s a just another awful player

That's what they're going to use 2026 for, to see if players like N. Gorman are going to pan out or is it time to cut the cord and move on.

Wasn't 2025 supposed to be for that?

New regime coming in and we know BDWJr isn't going to spend any real money in 2026.

Gorman isn't my choice (Saggesse absolutely isn't, J.A.G. w/no power) but if NADO and Donovan are traded (likely), then Gorman is going to be the first player to be given a shot at 3rd base given his power upside.

Yea saggase may be JAG but Gorman is just another awful failed player. If they go with him not only are they not caring if they win but intentionally trying to lose and would be a good indicator bloom might be an idiot

If NADO and Donovan are traded, Gorman is going to be the guy who's given the first shot at 3rd base.

And Bloom is far from an "idiot" if he gives Gorman one more shot in what is being described as a re-build season.

[Shady]

Plan to platoon Gorman and Saggese at 3B.

If one starts off particularly well and the other poorly, let the one playing well start to eat into the playing time of the other.

That seems reasonable. It seems most are assuming Wetherholt has one starting infield job. That includes me. I hope we are right on as far as him being ready for it.

[rockondlouie]

No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.

JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.

Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?


JMO

If Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.

You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?

Gorman had 100 more ABs than Saggese. Both had same number of doubles. Gorman had 12 more HRs. Saggese hit over 50 points higher in BA. Give me the "JAG" who puts the ball in play and can hit doubles.

To put it in perspective. Donovan hit a double in 6% of his ABs. Saggese hit a double in 5% of his ABs. You are under estimating Saggese's potential if played every day.

Oh H E L L NO RF!

A BA of .258 is "meh" when you toss in the rest of his slash .299 .342 .641 he's a HORRIBLE hitter!

And you want "2 or 3 like him"?

BA isn't the right stat to judge a hitter by anymore.

I don't want either at 3rd base.

But given we have to have one, it's Gorman by a mile over the weak hitting Saggese.

Again, what is the fascination of some of our fans w/a Saggese who's J.A.G.

[Shady]

No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.

JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.

Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?


JMO

If Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.

You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?

Gorman had 100 more ABs than Saggese. Both had same number of doubles. Gorman had 12 more HRs. Saggese hit over 50 points higher in BA. Give me the "JAG" who puts the ball in play and can hit doubles.

To put it in perspective. Donovan hit a double in 6% of his ABs. Saggese hit a double in 5% of his ABs. You are under estimating Saggese's potential if played every day.

Oh H E L L NO RF!

A BA of .258 is "meh" when you toss in the rest of his slash .299 .342 .641 he's a HORRIBLE hitter!

And you want "2 or 3 like him"?

BA isn't the right stat to judge a hitter by anymore.

I don't want either at 3rd base.

But given we have to have one, it's Gorman by a mile over the weak hitting Saggese.

Again, what is the fascination of some of our fans w/a Saggese who's J.A.G.

"Again, what is the fascination of some of our fans w/a Saggese who's J.A.G". You were probably wondering the same about Burleson a couple years back. Maybe you still are.

[NYCardsFan]

No he doesn't become relevant at all, let alone "more" relevant.

JJW is going to be starting at 2nd Base w/N. Gorman at 3rd Base if NADO is dealt.

Saggese is J.A.G., what is the obsession w/a player who slashed .258 .299 .338 .638 in 2025?


JMO

If Saggese is "JAG" while hitting .260, then please get us about 2 or 3 like him. The Cards have too many starters hitting .220-ish.

You dont think they'd be better off with a few "JAGs" hitting 40 pts higher?

Gorman had 100 more ABs than Saggese. Both had same number of doubles. Gorman had 12 more HRs. Saggese hit over 50 points higher in BA. Give me the "JAG" who puts the ball in play and can hit doubles.

To put it in perspective. Donovan hit a double in 6% of his ABs. Saggese hit a double in 5% of his ABs. You are under estimating Saggese's potential if played every day.

Oh H E L L NO RF!

A BA of .258 is "meh" when you toss in the rest of his slash .299 .342 .641 he's a HORRIBLE hitter!

And you want "2 or 3 like him"?

BA isn't the right stat to judge a hitter by anymore.

I don't want either at 3rd base.

But given we have to have one, it's Gorman by a mile over the weak hitting Saggese.

Again, what is the fascination of some of our fans w/a Saggese who's J.A.G.

"Again, what is the fascination of some of our fans w/a Saggese who's J.A.G". You were probably wondering the same about Burleson a couple years back. Maybe you still are.

We’re still waiting for him to blossom into “the next Tony Gwynn /Joey Votto.” And for Gorman to turn into “the next Eddie Mathews.” “LOL”